Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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Minder

Quote from: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 19, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Who do the HUrling Supporters of Antrim want then?

We didnt want a outside manager who didnt play any club matches who promised us a All Ireland in 3 years but we performe welll in QF'S yet still lost
The players didnt want a manager who got good results somehow but his reign was a total joke
Or 2 former Heroes who promised us long term progress but suferred in the short-term

In 125 years of the GAA Antrim have reached only 2 Senior Hurling finals getting hammered in both. Is it a massive suprise to people that we have struggled?? In a 7-8 year spell at max (86 - 93) we held our own...thats it. Shite for the rest of it. Would Brian Cody improve our senior hurling team by much if he had the exact same personnel on show.

It's not only about personnel. It's about, support, investment, belief and a desire to succeed!  It's about being prepared to work hard, instilling discipline, motivation, and commitment, not just from the players, but every man, woman, child, administrator, coach, school, club buying into a strategic structure and measurable/achievable plan to progress and succeed.  Will you play your part, that is the question, or will you like most of the other demogouges on here, continue to sit on the sidelines and bemoan everything and everybody?
"demogouges", now where have i seen that term used  quite frequently on an internet discussion board? It will come to me . . . . . .
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

theskull1

No noble history at national level
Not enough clubs competitive at senior
Not enough coaches of the right quality to look after club sides and development squads
Belfast clubs hemorrhaging players from U16 up
Not enough coffers to provide funding to prepare teams in a more professional manner
Not enough real support of the game at both club or county level
In KK & Cork etc it helps your job options playing for your county. We don't have that incentive.
Alot of people in Antrim couldn't give a f**k

Why are we surprised when our county team doesn't quite cut i on the national stage?

It's an uphill struggle and we're being too harsh IMO when all things are considered.  
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

SASLinger

Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2009, 11:14:45 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 19, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Who do the HUrling Supporters of Antrim want then?

We didnt want a outside manager who didnt play any club matches who promised us a All Ireland in 3 years but we performe welll in QF'S yet still lost
The players didnt want a manager who got good results somehow but his reign was a total joke
Or 2 former Heroes who promised us long term progress but suferred in the short-term

In 125 years of the GAA Antrim have reached only 2 Senior Hurling finals getting hammered in both. Is it a massive suprise to people that we have struggled?? In a 7-8 year spell at max (86 - 93) we held our own...thats it. Shite for the rest of it. Would Brian Cody improve our senior hurling team by much if he had the exact same personnel on show.

It's not only about personnel. It's about, support, investment, belief and a desire to succeed!  It's about being prepared to work hard, instilling discipline, motivation, and commitment, not just from the players, but every man, woman, child, administrator, coach, school, club buying into a strategic structure and measurable/achievable plan to progress and succeed.  Will you play your part, that is the question, or will you like most of the other demogouges on here, continue to sit on the sidelines and bemoan everything and everybody?
"demogouges", now where have i seen that term used  quite frequently on an internet discussion board? It will come to me . . . . . .
I have'nt the slightest notion what you are referring to pal.  But in this instance the term'demagouge' you are hearing from me and only me! 
Same Aul Shoite - just from a different bucket mouth!

the colonel

SAS

get off your horse ya ballbag, i know a couple of the users and i know what they put into hurling in antrim, and its a hell of a lot. so we don't know who you are and what you have given, you haven't stated. so what makes you a better judge than the users on here.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP
the difference between success and failure is energy

SASLinger

Quote from: theskull1 on April 19, 2009, 11:17:47 PM
No noble history at national level
Not enough clubs competitive at senior
Not enough coaches of the right quality to look after club sides and development squads
Belfast clubs hemorrhaging players from U16 up
Not enough coffers to provide funding to prepare teams in a more professional manner
Not enough real support of the game at both club or county level
In KK & Cork etc it helps your job options playing for your county. We don't have that incentive.
Alot of people in Antrim couldn't give a f**k

Why are we surprised when our county team doesn't quite cut i on the national stage?

It's an uphill struggle and we're being too harsh IMO when all things are considered.  
A fair analyisis Skull, but are you prepared to play your part to improve our lot?
Quote from: the colonel on April 19, 2009, 11:23:35 PM
SAS

get off your horse ya ballbag, i know a couple of the users and i know what they put into hurling in antrim, and its a hell of a lot. so we don't know who you are and what you have given, you haven't stated. so what makes you a better judge than the users on here.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP
I hurled at school, played for parish,club and county.  Coached, raised funds, delivered coaching programmes, stoned the brits in Casement Park, coached camogie, travelled the lenght and breadth of the country with juveniles and underage players. And did I happen to mention I was at Tullamore today.  Are they decent enough credentials for you? Lets hear your input!
Same Aul Shoite - just from a different bucket mouth!

SASLinger

Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 11:32:26 PM
SASLinger
What did Jingo do (as Antrim hurling manager) for you to label him a plonker?

Well, for one, he had an asshole in McK****** as his assistant.  Two, he did not have the courage of his convictions to challenge the county board as to why S&W were permitted to supercede him.  That certainly proved to me he was weak in character.  Three, do you really think that someone who attempted to decapitate a Tipperary player in the '89 final is the sort of coach/manager you want to have around young players?  Granted, he got a couple of decent results against poor 26 county opposition, but other than that, zilch!
Same Aul Shoite - just from a different bucket mouth!

SASLinger

#5376
So, 'the Colonel' Senior Member, what exactly is your credentials?  I note you have not elaborated! I suppose being a Senior Member and all that! :-\

I am away to bed, had a long day travelling to Co. Offaly.  Maybe you will grace us all with a detailed response?
Same Aul Shoite - just from a different bucket mouth!

SASLinger

Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 11:48:30 PM
Decapitating someone takes effort, SAS. A lot more effort than what was displayed today. He did speak out against his dicking but then realised that he was done up like a kipper and took it on the chin.

He can be proud of the work he did with Antrim unlike these two. McSpa needs to go too.

So 'decapitating takes effort' is alright in your book. F**king wise up ya p***k!  'Took it on the chin', did he?  He whinged and moaned like an aul woman behind backs.  The 'these two' and 'McSpa' you refer to, take your gripes up with them, not me!
Same Aul Shoite - just from a different bucket mouth!

theskull1

 
Quote from: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
A fair analyisis Skull, but are you prepared to play your part to improve our lot

Why have you assumed I don't already?
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

johnneycool

you can have jingo and digger any time you like but leave us Humpy and Tosh.


Minder

Quote from: johnneycool on April 20, 2009, 09:14:34 AM
you can have jingo and digger any time you like but leave us Humpy and Tosh.



How are Tosh and Humpys trainings being received by the Down players JC?
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

johnneycool

Quote from: Minder on April 20, 2009, 09:19:18 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 20, 2009, 09:14:34 AM
you can have jingo and digger any time you like but leave us Humpy and Tosh.



How are Tosh and Humpys trainings being received by the Down players JC?


Very well Minder and according to my very good sources  ;) within the panel they'd absolutely fucked (not that they aren't crap anyway) without them.

Div 2 for another year is a victory of sorts for Down as they've been fucked with injuries, absentee's and whinging players to date.

theskull1

Whinging players.......is this becoming a bigger issue with the younger generation of hurlers. Seems to be alot of know it all teenagers who don't like to be told these days or is that just me showing my age?
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

SASLinger

Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 11:17:37 AM
Whinging players.......is this becoming a bigger issue with the younger generation of hurlers. Seems to be alot of know it all teenagers who don't like to be told these days or is that just me showing my age?

Well, I suppose when you started using the Viagra (to stop you rolling out of bed), the Grecian 2000, anti wrinkle cream, the incontinence pants, you are starting to show your age alright.  ;D  "Know it all teenagers" seems to be the'teenagers' have something in common with the stalwarts on here!
Same Aul Shoite - just from a different bucket mouth!

SASLinger

Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
A fair analyisis Skull, but are you prepared to play your part to improve our lot

Why have you assumed I don't already?

Because I note from your postings that you are always having a go at county administarors, Managers, coaches etc.  It strikes me whilst you critiscise everyone and sundry, you dont elaborate on the 'positive role' you are actually engaged in within the county in hurling terms.  I am theroefore begging the question, what part are you playing?
Same Aul Shoite - just from a different bucket mouth!