Antrim Hurling

Milltown Row2 · August 21, 2011, 11:29:45 PM

Do you honestly think that they were doing their best?

Fail to prepare prepare to fail.

How many training sessions were called? How many were turning up for training and how many challenge games did they have?

As for the public domain they played Armagh in the final and nearly lost, what did you expect when they were going to play Dublin? Get over yourself

Fairhead · August 21, 2011, 11:53:58 PM

I don't agree with people on the Antrim hurling hurling thread saying they bet against Antrim but each to their own.

However MR you are right how many training sessions did the u21s have? Have they had more than a dozen? Our county do not and never have treated the competition with any respect. Which of the other counties in the semis this year would have scheduled football championships and minor hurling championships the same weekend? I heard both the Dublin and Limerick managers on the Sunday Game talking about how much effort their teams have put in this year. Has an Antrim u21 manager ever said that about the Antrim u21s?

Milltown Row2 · August 22, 2011, 12:19:23 AM

Quote from: Fairhead on August 21, 2011, 11:53:58 PM
I don't agree with people on the Antrim hurling hurling thread saying they bet against Antrim but each to their own.

However MR you are right how many training sessions did the u21s have? Have they had more than a dozen? Our county do not and never have treated the competition with any respect. Which of the other counties in the semis this year would have scheduled football championships and minor hurling championships the same weekend? I heard both the Dublin and Limerick managers on the Sunday Game talking about how much effort their teams have put in this year. Has an Antrim u21 manager ever said that about the Antrim u21s?

This Antrim team and like the minors (after Sambo/woody) have not been great, fault lies somewhere but this is getting worse. If I took on the job of looking after a county team I would do so with a plan, I'm sure when Dominc took over, he would have had an plan but was either stifled by things outside of his control.

As for betting, come on, anyone with a passing interest in sport betting will always want to get a few pound, my knowledge of how much we were going to get beat was based on Dublin's results and Antrim results. Not the rumours of players

theskull1 · August 22, 2011, 08:24:14 AM

I thought it was just me. In agreement with NAH. Its a bit sickening and even worse creates a very unhealhty dynamic of acceptablity of such practices.

The points you're making milltown about preparations is a separate issue

NAG1 · August 22, 2011, 08:39:00 AM

It wasnt the players who were making phone calls asking their mates to see if they fancied a game, it was so called management and county officials.

This age group has been ignored for years and treated with total apathy. We should either pull out of this age group or treat it with some respect, if not for our dignity and pride then for the sake of dublin and their preperations for an AIF.

Not sure on the betting front, have never liked betting against your own team attitude. Remember being in casement manys a time during league games and guys celebrating antrim 'only' getting beat by 8 or 9 because they had covered the spread. Not a good attitude. But I guess each to their own.

Jesusjones · August 22, 2011, 09:15:08 AM

Why is no one placing any blame on the U-21's so called manager? How did he get the job? At the start of last season it was announced that Dinny was the senior and U-21 manager. How did Dominic Kearns suddenly get the job? I've never heard of him managing an U-12 club team never mind a county U-21 squad.

Minder · August 22, 2011, 09:19:32 AM

Quote from: Jesusjones on August 22, 2011, 09:15:08 AM
Why is no one placing any blame on the U-21's so called manager? How did he get the job? At the start of last season it was announced that Dinny was the senior and U-21 manager. How did Dominic Kearns suddenly get the job? I've never heard of him managing an U-12 club team never mind a county U-21 squad.

In fairness I don't think anyone is kicking the door down for the job, I would say nobody else would have done it. I wouldn't knock him for giving up his time.

Glensman · August 22, 2011, 09:23:06 AM

Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 21, 2011, 07:37:44 PM
Any dates/venue/times out for the junior or intermediate championships next weekend??

Are these seriously not out yet? Less than a week before the 1/2 final matches?
Given the senior 1/4 final fixtures have been out for months would it not be wise to stick one of each of the semis before one of them.
How can a team plan their training when they don't know when they are on?!

Jesusjones · August 22, 2011, 09:27:03 AM

I wouldn't fault him for taking the job at all, I'd fault whoever let him have it.

theskull1 · August 22, 2011, 09:53:18 AM

Were you not available JJ?

This is the problem lads. Where are all these willing compedent mentors and enthusiastic backroom staff who are prepared to look after their own wee part of the overall jigsaw?

In this county we have far too many missing peices. Lets not go down the route of sniping at those who are prepared to give of their time.

NAG1 · August 22, 2011, 10:29:07 AM

I wasnt sniping at anyone, my general point was the apathy directed towards the U21 set up for the past number of years. This can be seen in a number of different ways, people can take their pick of which they choose.

Agree skull we have a lack of numbers at all different levels of those prepared to put their shoulder to the wheel.

4father · August 22, 2011, 10:54:24 AM

Quote from: theskull1 on August 22, 2011, 09:53:18 AM
Were you not available JJ?

This is the problem lads. Where are all these willing compedent mentors and enthusiastic backroom staff who are prepared to look after their own wee part of the overall jigsaw?

In this county we have far too many missing peices. Lets not go down the route of sniping at those who are prepared to give of their time.

Here here

JamesH · August 22, 2011, 11:41:18 AM

i don't blame Dominic its the senior management i blame, lads how much respect does he comand from a panel? The man is the kit man for the senior squad, and never managed above minor club level. To be placed in the position seemed to be some sort of pr exercise and oh Jesus cant say any more on this.

Onthehill · August 22, 2011, 12:40:11 PM

Folks this is absolutely embarrassing to hear about fellow antrim men betting against their own team but more importantly the fact that they feel the need to come on here and jump up and down about it. Makes me sick to be honest.

Then other posters feel the need to blame a man who gives up his time for a job that you get absolutely no thanks for. Dinny appointed Domnic as the manager of the U21s as its his responsibility as senior manager to look oversee the U21s. I'm sure he wouldnt have asked him if he felt he wasnt capable of doing it. I seen him sitting behind Kearns on the bench on the tv on Sat evening during the match so i presume hes still involved.

I was speaking briefly to Domnic at the golf classic on friday in Ballycastle about the game and he said to me preparations hadn't went well. I'm sure he'll not mine me saying this but he said he had called training on several nights and managers from club teams were ringing him telling him that the players were playing club championship at the weekend and that they wouldnt be attending county training. His job was impossible.

theskull1 · August 22, 2011, 12:48:31 PM

I'd love to know what happens in regards to club championship preparations in other counties when it comes to 21s.

But isn't our problem mainly to do with the calibre of player available before we start going into the preparations?

All down to the "couldn't be bothered"/"somebody else will do it" attitude of many adults in this county