Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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Fairhead

Quote from: theskull1 on November 22, 2012, 10:53:52 PM
Not being knowledgeable about the specifics of the work being done or indeed what type of physical development work is advisable by experts in this field I think I should not have an opinion on what is being done.

There's a fair chance I'd say that expertise has been sought so why try and be a shit stirring know it all?

Simples Skull its much easier to stir shit on here rather than wait to find out the details!

Fairhead

Quote from: johnneycool on November 23, 2012, 10:28:59 AM
If the grip and swing aren't right by the age of 10 then no gods amount of gym work is going to speed up their hurling.

Note, I mentioned the speeding up of their hurling, not just how fast they can run as I've seen it all too often lads with natural speed having to almost stop dead to control a ball, rise it and even hit it.

Shefflin is a good case of this as there's loads of hurlers out there faster over the ground than him, but he does all his skills at full throttle and doesn't need to slow down to execute them properly.

If you've got all that sorted, then yes do a bit of gym work to improve core and what not as striking on the run needs a strong core to develop the power in the shot.

I read this article a few years ago in working 'smart' in the gym which seems to have been lost a bit in every hurler under the sun being told to bulk up.

http://www.totalgaacoach.com/news/419.html


Ive heard a couple of people say that even up to u12 all you should be interested in as a coach is getting the kids to master the grip.

Thats an excellent article about Timmy Hammersley's routine. 

Seamroga in exile

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I remember being given a clip around the lug and told to run out and enjoy it when I was 14. Changed times indeed.

I don't necessarily agree with the skills having to be learned at 10. I know this seems somewhat in club, but Watson was 12 before he went near a hurling field. Talent, I would like to think, is still the major factor at 14. I still think its to young to be even interested in s + c. 16s and up is time enough.

Drilling training into fellas of that age will take the enjoyment out of it eventually. I know it'll help them build up strength etc, but enjoyment of playing the game is what its all about. End of.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

theskull1

A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.



It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Seamroga in exile

Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

theskull1

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Fairhead

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 12:50:04 AM
I remember being given a clip around the lug and told to run out and enjoy it when I was 14. Changed times indeed.

I don't necessarily agree with the skills having to be learned at 10. I know this seems somewhat in club, but Watson was 12 before he went near a hurling field. Talent, I would like to think, is still the major factor at 14. I still think its to young to be even interested in s + c. 16s and up is time enough.

Drilling training into fellas of that age will take the enjoyment out of it eventually. I know it'll help them build up strength etc, but enjoyment of playing the game is what its all about. End of.

SIE who said anything about the skills being learnt by 10? JC mentioned the grip and the swing by age 10 and i said the grip by 12. They are the basics not all the skills. Agree with you about the enjoyment though, the kids have to enjoy it to keep them coming back.

Seamroga in exile

Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
indeed, and also a realisation that we're all a part of an amateur organisation.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
indeed, and also a realisation that we're all a part of an amateur organisation.

I think Loughgiel take a professional look at how they are doing things though, so amateur organisation is a bit stretched sometimes :o
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Seamroga in exile

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
indeed, and also a realisation that we're all a part of an amateur organisation.

I think Loughgiel take a professional look at how they are doing things though, so amateur organisation is a bit stretched sometimes :o
who mentioned Loughgiel? My own opinion mr2.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
indeed, and also a realisation that we're all a part of an amateur organisation.

I think Loughgiel take a professional look at how they are doing things though, so amateur organisation is a bit stretched sometimes :o
who mentioned Loughgiel? My own opinion mr2.

Highlighted the bit in bold, thought you were talking about all clubs
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Seamroga in exile

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:41:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
indeed, and also a realisation that we're all a part of an amateur organisation.

I think Loughgiel take a professional look at how they are doing things though, so amateur organisation is a bit stretched sometimes :o
who mentioned Loughgiel? My own opinion mr2.

Highlighted the bit in bold, thought you were talking about all clubs
Erm, yeah. Clubs, counties, members... amateurs.

Maybe Naomh Gall are different?
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

manballandall

Naomh gall hurling managers don't get paid/expenses. Do other club managers?

btdtgtt

I think judging by the time of that post you might have had a few shandies HS!
Has Rossa House closing forced you to drink down Milltown Row in St Galls?

Getting close to AGM time and County Convention - anyone aware of any movement in clubs?
Anyone know of the hurling league changes to be brought forward to county convention?

Last Man

Quote from: btdtgtt on November 26, 2012, 09:28:51 AM
I think judging by the time of that post you might have had a few shandies HS!
Has Rossa House closing forced you to drink down Milltown Row in St Galls?

Getting close to AGM time and County Convention - anyone aware of any movement in clubs?
Anyone know of the hurling league changes to be brought forward to county convention?
I am led to believe that anything that tampers with the existing D1 and maybe slightly lesser extent D2 is a dead duck.