Hunger strike commemoration at a GAA ground

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

Pints, didn't we read a few pages back that Martin Hurson was a member of Galbally GAA? Perhaps he wasn't exceptional enough?

To be fair, many GAA members and players die and don't have clubs/grounds/commemorations in their honour on account of their contribution to the Association.
And this was clearly a political event, rather than commemorating someone's sporting achievements.

how many f**king times does it have to be said. It was a hunger strike commemoration.  Were you there?

Clearly I wasn't there. I'm not sure what difference that makes,

But surely the hunger strikes were a political event? If so, it would surely follow that a commemoration would also be a political event. It was hardly a sporting occasion.

The Hunger strikes were an event that touched most of the nationalist people of Northern Ireland. And to most of those
people it showed how much Britain cared for the people allegedly under its control. People who normally didnt care
about such things were abhorred about what happened during the Hunger Strikes. And it doesnt therefore follow that a
hunger strike commemoration is a political event. Its just what is says, a commemoration.

[Maguire01]

Maguire........Kevin Lynch's hurling club. Hunger Strike/GAA. GAA/Hunger Strike?

Why blow yer load now?

I'm not blowing any load, as you so nicely put it.

But this event doesn't appear to have any connection to the Association.

Regardless of my political opinion, I can appreciate that Kevin Lynch's club was named after a reportedly exceptional hurler. It's a different situation altogether

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

If you knew anything about the people of Galbally and the members of the club, you would realise that it they
didnt want something to happen, then it wouldnt, simple as that.

How many times.....

a) Neither you nor I can speak for every member of that club, so we don't know that everyone wanted it to happen; and
b) The club is part of an Association. A such, the club members can't just do what they want, even if 100% of them agree.

And thats where the Ulster Council come in.

So if the UC find a problem with it you'll agree that this club was wrong to allow such an event?

Of course i will. I said earlier that i was a GAA member. I attended Sundays
event to show my support for the Hunger Strikers. I was there to attend a
commemoration, not a political rally. And that is exactly what i saw.

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

If the UC find a problem with this, they have a major problem on their hands. A can of worms.

It is indeed.
It will probably be swept under the carpet.

You dont have much faith in the GAA then?

[Maguire01]

Pints, didn't we read a few pages back that Martin Hurson was a member of Galbally GAA? Perhaps he wasn't exceptional enough?

To be fair, many GAA members and players die and don't have clubs/grounds/commemorations in their honour on account of their contribution to the Association.
And this was clearly a political event, rather than commemorating someone's sporting achievements.

how many f**king times does it have to be said. It was a hunger strike commemoration.  Were you there?

Clearly I wasn't there. I'm not sure what difference that makes,

But surely the hunger strikes were a political event? If so, it would surely follow that a commemoration would also be a political event. It was hardly a sporting occasion.

The Hunger strikes were an event that touched most of the nationalist people of Northern Ireland. And to most of those
people it showed how much Britain cared for the people allegedly under its control. People who normally didnt care
about such things were abhorred about what happened during the Hunger Strikes. And it doesnt therefore follow that a
hunger strike commemoration is a political event. Its just what is says, a commemoration.

Maybe you should read the speeches detailed in your quote from An Phoblacht - there are numerous explicit political references.

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

I didn't understand your post at all, pints. I am not talking about a 'do'. I'm talking about the club's name.

Oh right, I misunderstood, thought you meant the march thing they had last year.

From what I can gather the club is called after him as he was an exceptional hurler rather than for his political activities and death.  That's fair enough in my eyes.

So we should listen to one bigot, as opposed to what the vast majority of the local nationalist community want?

The bigot only highlighted the interest, I couldnt give a shite about him, I said from the beginning of this thread I care about the GAA and it's members who may not like this.

Pints I stated earlier in this thread that im a member, either playing or otherwise for 40 years now. I have no
problem whatsoever with it. I agree some people may have, but to lambast Galbally GFC , the way some people have
is totally wrong in my opinion. And the way some have attempted to turn this into political points scoring is pathetic.
If you knew anything about the people of Galbally and the members of the club, you would realise that it they
didnt want something to happen, then it wouldnt, simple as that.

You may not have a problem with it but others may.

i have noticed that Pints, especially some posters on this thread.

[Maguire01]

If the UC find a problem with this, they have a major problem on their hands. A can of worms.

It is indeed.
It will probably be swept under the carpet.

You dont have much faith in the GAA then?

Firstly, the Ulster Council is not the GAA.
I think they're caught between a rock and a hard place and just think that it's regretable that they have been put in this situation at all. They're in a no win situation.

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

Pints, didn't we read a few pages back that Martin Hurson was a member of Galbally GAA? Perhaps he wasn't exceptional enough?

To be fair, many GAA members and players die and don't have clubs/grounds/commemorations in their honour on account of their contribution to the Association.
And this was clearly a political event, rather than commemorating someone's sporting achievements.

how many f**king times does it have to be said. It was a hunger strike commemoration.  Were you there?

Clearly I wasn't there. I'm not sure what difference that makes,

But surely the hunger strikes were a political event? If so, it would surely follow that a commemoration would also be a political event. It was hardly a sporting occasion.

The Hunger strikes were an event that touched most of the nationalist people of Northern Ireland. And to most of those
people it showed how much Britain cared for the people allegedly under its control. People who normally didnt care
about such things were abhorred about what happened during the Hunger Strikes. And it doesnt therefore follow that a
hunger strike commemoration is a political event. Its just what is says, a commemoration.

Maybe you should read the speeches detailed in your quote from An Phoblacht - there are numerous explicit political references.

Of course there are. It was a Commemoration for men who died on Hunger Strike. I am going to Croke
Park on Sunday. If i look & listen hard enough i will find plenty of political references there as well. It doesnt
mean its a political rally though, just an all ireland semi final.

[Maguire01]

I didn't understand your post at all, pints. I am not talking about a 'do'. I'm talking about the club's name.

Oh right, I misunderstood, thought you meant the march thing they had last year.

From what I can gather the club is called after him as he was an exceptional hurler rather than for his political activities and death.  That's fair enough in my eyes.

So we should listen to one bigot, as opposed to what the vast majority of the local nationalist community want?

The bigot only highlighted the interest, I couldnt give a shite about him, I said from the beginning of this thread I care about the GAA and it's members who may not like this.

Pints I stated earlier in this thread that im a member, either playing or otherwise for 40 years now. I have no
problem whatsoever with it. I agree some people may have, but to lambast Galbally GFC , the way some people have
is totally wrong in my opinion. And the way some have attempted to turn this into political points scoring is pathetic.
If you knew anything about the people of Galbally and the members of the club, you would realise that it they
didnt want something to happen, then it wouldnt, simple as that.

You may not have a problem with it but others may.

i have noticed that Pints, especially some posters on this thread.

And as such, i'm sure you appreciate that other members of the Association have similar issues.

[Maguire01]

Pints, didn't we read a few pages back that Martin Hurson was a member of Galbally GAA? Perhaps he wasn't exceptional enough?

To be fair, many GAA members and players die and don't have clubs/grounds/commemorations in their honour on account of their contribution to the Association.
And this was clearly a political event, rather than commemorating someone's sporting achievements.

how many f**king times does it have to be said. It was a hunger strike commemoration.  Were you there?

Clearly I wasn't there. I'm not sure what difference that makes,

But surely the hunger strikes were a political event? If so, it would surely follow that a commemoration would also be a political event. It was hardly a sporting occasion.

The Hunger strikes were an event that touched most of the nationalist people of Northern Ireland. And to most of those
people it showed how much Britain cared for the people allegedly under its control. People who normally didnt care
about such things were abhorred about what happened during the Hunger Strikes. And it doesnt therefore follow that a
hunger strike commemoration is a political event. Its just what is says, a commemoration.

Maybe you should read the speeches detailed in your quote from An Phoblacht - there are numerous explicit political references.

Of course there are. It was a Commemoration for men who died on Hunger Strike. I am going to Croke
Park on Sunday. If i look & listen hard enough i will find plenty of political references there as well. It doesnt
mean its a political rally though, just an all ireland semi final.

Sunday will be about the football. I don't expect to have to listen to any politicians.

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

If the UC find a problem with this, they have a major problem on their hands. A can of worms.

It is indeed.
It will probably be swept under the carpet.

You dont have much faith in the GAA then?

Firstly, the Ulster Council is not the GAA.
I think they're caught between a rock and a hard place and just think that it's regretable that they have been put in this situation at all. They're in a no win situation.

No but theyre part of it. I'm sure though they can handle these rock & hard place situations , after all that what
we vote these people into.

[Maguire01]

Surely it's not the recent event in Galbally that has done this though. It doesn't stop at the UC either.

No indeed. Any decisions made should cover all such events and should be applied across the whole Association. If the UC can't deal with it, it should go back to HQ.

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

Pints, didn't we read a few pages back that Martin Hurson was a member of Galbally GAA? Perhaps he wasn't exceptional enough?

To be fair, many GAA members and players die and don't have clubs/grounds/commemorations in their honour on account of their contribution to the Association.
And this was clearly a political event, rather than commemorating someone's sporting achievements.

how many f**king times does it have to be said. It was a hunger strike commemoration.  Were you there?

Clearly I wasn't there. I'm not sure what difference that makes,

But surely the hunger strikes were a political event? If so, it would surely follow that a commemoration would also be a political event. It was hardly a sporting occasion.

The Hunger strikes were an event that touched most of the nationalist people of Northern Ireland. And to most of those
people it showed how much Britain cared for the people allegedly under its control. People who normally didnt care
about such things were abhorred about what happened during the Hunger Strikes. And it doesnt therefore follow that a
hunger strike commemoration is a political event. Its just what is says, a commemoration.

Maybe you should read the speeches detailed in your quote from An Phoblacht - there are numerous explicit political references.

Of course there are. It was a Commemoration for men who died on Hunger Strike. I am going to Croke
Park on Sunday. If i look & listen hard enough i will find plenty of political references there as well. It doesnt
mean its a political rally though, just an all ireland semi final.

Sunday will be about the football. I don't expect to have to listen to any politicians.

Correct and last Sunday was about the Hunger Strikers. However if You look closely around you, you will
see political references, even in the hallowed halls of Croke Park. If you want to see it, that is.

[Maguire01]

If the UC find a problem with this, they have a major problem on their hands. A can of worms.

It is indeed.
It will probably be swept under the carpet.

You dont have much faith in the GAA then?

Firstly, the Ulster Council is not the GAA.
I think they're caught between a rock and a hard place and just think that it's regretable that they have been put in this situation at all. They're in a no win situation.

No but theyre part of it. I'm sure though they can handle these rock & hard place situations , after all that what
we vote these people into.

Surely you're not naive enough to assume that just because people are voted into a position that they will be competent in their role? That's not making any judgement on the UC by the way - just a general observation on people who are elected.

As for the UC, you'd be extremely naive to believe that they won't be under considerable political pressure when considering this issue.

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

Surely it's not the recent event in Galbally that has done this though. It doesn't stop at the UC either.

No indeed. Any decisions made should cover all such events and should be applied across the whole Association. If the UC can't deal with it, it should go back to HQ.

Agree with that. And let them sort it out. coming round to my way of thinking Maguire.