The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[T Fearon]

I would be fairly certain that next year, it will be Lennon versus Mc Coist in the Rangers Celtic dugouts. Celtic will not gamble big money on another Mowbray like appointment and Mc Coist is being groomed to replace Walt.

Had to laugh at Mark Mc Ghee on Saturday. He says he was interested in Celtic job last year but it no longer appeals since Champions League is no longer guaranteed . Thats why he's content with Aberdeen

[lynchbhoy]

I would be fairly certain that next year, it will be Lennon versus Mc Coist in the Rangers Celtic dugouts. Celtic will not gamble big money on another Mowbray like appointment and Mc Coist is being groomed to replace Walt.

Had to laugh at Mark Mc Ghee on Saturday. He says he was interested in Celtic job last year but it no longer appeals since Champions League is no longer guaranteed . Thats why he's content with Aberdeen

well Hopefully Lennon will be 'lucky' as a manager if he gets the job, he apparantly is getting a lot of 'coaching' over the phone from MON.
But if he falls flat on his face, the non-appointment of an experienced top notch manager could cost Celtic more in the long run- as three bargain basement men is not ideal to win leagues and compete successfully in CL  - where MON left the club.
I see Boro have now more or less failed in their season to get into the playoffs, its still mathematically possible but realistically not.
thats the level of manager we have been 'accepting' of this past 5 years.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

AF- don't think anyone is actually suggesting Staunton apart from trolls trying to get a rise, no Eircom League would even want Staunton at the helm.

Looking at the gossip page on F365 there, one rumour was "The Celtic board have approached Nigel Pearson about succeeding Mowbray."  Christ.

Fixed that Rav67. 

[T Fearon]

I see Boro have now more or less failed in their season to get into the playoffs, its still mathematically possible but realistically not.thats the level of manager we have been 'accepting' of this past 5 years.

That would be the only Celtic Manager that won three titles in a row and took us further in the European Cup/ Champions League since Jock Stein, and revitalised O'Neill's clapped out team that threw away a title on the last day of the season? I think Strachan can only be properly judged at Boro next season, and I still wouldn't rule out a play off place and indeed promotion this year just yet.

However at least he's not leading them to 4 nil defeats by Peterborough

[Hedley Lamarr]

I see Boro have now more or less failed in their season to get into the playoffs, its still mathematically possible but realistically not.thats the level of manager we have been 'accepting' of this past 5 years.

That would be the only Celtic Manager that won three titles in a row and took us further in the European Cup/ Champions League since Jock Stein, and revitalised O'Neill's clapped out team that threw away a title on the last day of the season? I think Strachan can only be properly judged at Boro next season, and I still wouldn't rule out a play off place and indeed promotion this year just yet.

However at least he's not leading them to 4 nil defeats by Peterborough

I have to agree 100% with you there Tony.......words I never thought I'd utter or print!

[lynchbhoy]

I see Boro have now more or less failed in their season to get into the playoffs, its still mathematically possible but realistically not.thats the level of manager we have been 'accepting' of this past 5 years.
That would be the only Celtic Manager that won three titles in a row and took us further in the European Cup/ Champions League since Jock Stein, and revitalised O'Neill's clapped out team that threw away a title on the last day of the season? I think Strachan can only be properly judged at Boro next season, and I still wouldn't rule out a play off place and indeed promotion this year just yet.

However at least he's not leading them to 4 nil defeats by Peterborough

so you dont think then (unlike most Celtic and other soccer fans) that strachan was plain lucky in the draws he got for CL which allowed mediocre Celtic sides to fluke it into last 16 of CL?
If not , you obv think that he was a better manager thna MON and his Celtic sides were better than MON's ! (ok thats the first myth busted - and wont even have to go into how strachans Celtic sides took the biggest hammerings in europe since Stein).

so you want to judge strachans side after a full year of being in charge-thats a good bit hypocritical of you as you wouldnt apply the same standard or judgement criteria to Mowbray !

If MON's clapped out side were only caught (threw away) on th efinal day of the season and strachan 'revitalised' it
what does that say about strachans team that threw away a 9 point lead in the league and were well beaten by the end of last few games...what chance to revitalise that.
In strachans last 22 games he only won 11.
Mowbrays win percentage is 7% better at 57%.
A rubbish rangers side allowed strachan the luxury of looking good until walter smith (who failed first time around under pressure from MON) took over and put simple structures in place.
Strachan is being found out again at Boro where he took a team in playoff  place 5th position and has so far brought them to 8th (and dropping).
Again another myth busted Tony.
If you want to quote st mirren - I give you artmedia bratislavia !

[T Fearon]

Lynchboy. Not wishing to get into an argument here, but Walter was never in charge of Rangers during O'Neill's time in Glasgow, except you are talking about head to heads between Everton and Leicester City (managed by Smith and O'Neill respectively). Strachan did outdo Mc Leish in his first season though, and he has shown at Birmingham that he is no slouch.

Strachan's teams held their own in three out of four CL meetings with Man Utd, and I think most people would credit him for getting out of the group in 2006/07. His away record was piss poor yet so was O'Neills in Europe, or in the CL at any rate.

Strachan has come in mid season at Middlesbro and he has them still in contention (unlike Mowbray who was there at the start of the season, brought in loads of players in the summer and in January) but was never in contention.

I think most people would agree that regardless of their respective shortcomings, Strachan was / is a much better manager than Mowbray, who I doubt will ever work again at any significant level

[lynchbhoy]

Lynchboy. Not wishing to get into an argument here, but Walter was never in charge of Rangers during O'Neill's time in Glasgow, except you are talking about head to heads between Everton and Leicester City (managed by Smith and O'Neill respectively). Strachan did outdo Mc Leish in his first season though, and he has shown at Birmingham that he is no slouch.
Strachan's teams held their own in three out of four CL meetings with Man Utd, and I think most people would credit him for getting out of the group in 2006/07. His away record was piss poor yet so was O'Neills in Europe, or in the CL at any rate.

Strachan has come in mid season at Middlesbro and he has them still in contention (unlike Mowbray who was there at the start of the season, brought in loads of players in the summer and in January) but was never in contention.

I think most people would agree that regardless of their respective shortcomings, Strachan was / is a much better manager than Mowbray, who I doubt will ever work again at any significant level

Sorry , I thought smith was there for the first yesr or so of MON's reign?
strachan came in after barely a month gone in the season so thats pants.
he has taken a decent enough side that were possibly not quite good enough and turned thminto sihte.
Same as he did with Celtic.
Mcleish is doing ok - but with POTS of cash to spend. IMO mcleish is pants and was taking rangers down as he had no money to spend with them and was fresh out of ideas. With practically the same crew smith dismanteled strachan.

strachan has taken boro OUT of the playoff contention they were in !
Beating man u was more than lucky as Celtic were outplayed in all of the games and free kicks and 11 men behind the ball and rarely tried a shot ! Any realistic Celtic fan will admit man u were robbed, but dont care when something good like that happens!

MON's away record in eurpoe was poor - but he had far superior opposition to play against almost all of the time. A few bad results there too. strachan lost the Fortress Celtic Park mantle too - his home record was poor enough let alone the away record. Artmedia and shakthar were two of the poorest I have ever seen Celtic - ICT and st.mirren-esque (before shakthar were any use btw)

[the colonel]

I thing we should ban all talk of Mowbray and Strachan from now. We all get the fact Tony is a Strachan fan, the rest may not be. Yawn

[T Fearon]

Advocaat was O'Neill's adversary in his first couple of years in Glasgow, and not a very good one. After all he spent £12m on Flo and bankrupted the Gers in the process

Ah, its too easy to say Strachan was all bad and O'Neill was all good. Maybe if Strachan had access to the funds made available to O'Neill he could have produced a more entertaining side.Also if Boro had been doing so well why was Southgate sacked?

What I would argue was , both O'Neill and Strachan were far superior than Mowbray, using the only yardstick that means anything...trophies won.

Little point in arguing about the past, how was good and bad etc. O'Neill and Strachan proved they were worthy Celtic Managers. Mowbray didn't.At the end of the day,even if I was in charge, Celtic should be winning SPLs hands down.Lets hope the new manager whoever he is, Lennon or someone else, rectifies the problems.

PS Tam Cowan on Mowbray in Saturday's Daily Record. "Mowbray wanted Celtic to play like Barcelona, but his team was more Matalan than Catalan"

[lynchbhoy]

Advocaat was O'Neill's adversary in his first couple of years in Glasgow, and not a very good one. After all he spent £12m on Flo and bankrupted the Gers in the process

Ah, its too easy to say Strachan was all bad and O'Neill was all good. Maybe if Strachan had access to the funds made available to O'Neill he could have produced a more entertaining side.Also if Boro had been doing so well why was Southgate sacked?

What I would argue was , both O'Neill and Strachan were far superior than Mowbray, using the only yardstick that means anything...trophies won.

Little point in arguing about the past, how was good and bad etc. O'Neill and Strachan proved they were worthy Celtic Managers. Mowbray didn't.At the end of the day,even if I was in charge, Celtic should be winning SPLs hands down.Lets hope the new manager whoever he is, Lennon or someone else, rectifies the problems.

PS Tam Cowan on Mowbray in Saturday's Daily Record. "Mowbray wanted Celtic to play like Barcelona, but his team was more Matalan than Catalan"

mowbray didnt get the time to prove anything
he was as good(or bad) as strachan.
you are only as good as your last season and mowbray has had two bad years, as does strachan - whose past two seasons are most probably WORSE !

wee ginger cannot be included in the same ballpark as MON.
He's had money at boro and made a bigger balls of a 'winning' team than mowbray did with a losing team. He had money at Celtic too - rem 4.4 million for Scott brown !!!


my point all along is that Celtic need to start getting managers that are not from the bargain bin like strachan and mowbray. As the past few seasons have shown why a good manager and investing the cash to pay him is vitally important.

[Main Street]

Over and over (as the song goes) 
The day will surely come when you guys can agree to disagree.

[T Fearon]

Yes, though I just regard this as a difference of opinion not an argument. We will hardly persuade each other to see this issue differently I suppose so I'm ready to agree to disagree

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

Gary Bombscare sent off for Wigan this evening.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

I see the Strachan obsession from certain posters continues but still no admission they were very wrong on Mowbray . Lennon has been saying he has been taking advice from MON and Strachan so nice easy scapegoat on here if it doesnt go well for him....all down to WGS.