The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[T Fearon]

But Mowbray has been there six months and has shown no sign, not one iota, that his team is taking any shape, or effecting any sustained improvement. Also can anyone really say any one of his signings has been a moderate success, or even looks like being one?

I know he had more money to spend (but so had Rangers too), but O'Neill from day one, gave an indication that he knew what he was doing, and took Celtic from miles behind Rangers (the previous season), in his very first season to win the league at a canter. Thats what good managers do. Look at the immediate improvement Mancini made to Man City when he replaced Hughes?

There have already been protests against Lawwell, Reid and Desmond, they have responded by making funds available, Mowbray is moving rapdily to centre stage target and when that happens, like Barnes, he will be gone overnight.

[GalwayBayBoy]

Thats what good managers do. Look at the immediate improvement Mancini made to Man City when he replaced Hughes?

I think he's taken them up about 2 places in the league table and out of the Carling Cup and he took over when they had a handy run of fixtures coming up. Hardly earth shattering so far.

I do agree that Mowbray looks on a wobbly peg at Celtic. His body language is not good and it doesn't even look like he wants to be there. The grind of dealing with the Scottish media and Scottish referees seems to be getting to him.

[T Fearon]

All those things (ie ability to handle pressure etc ) define a manager, and say what you like about Strachan, but he took no crap from the Press etc, and was his own man. Even if Mowbray showed a bit of passion and got the hairdryers out every now and again it would help.

Mowbray is a better off at smaller clubs like Hibs and West Brom, where not much is expected in terms of silverware or success and the natives usually, console themselves with the "nice football, nice bloke as manager" syndrome.

[lynchbhoy]

But Mowbray has been there six months and has shown no sign, not one iota, that his team is taking any shape, or effecting any sustained improvement. Also can anyone really say any one of his signings has been a moderate success, or even looks like being one?

I know he had more money to spend (but so had Rangers too), but O'Neill from day one, gave an indication that he knew what he was doing, and took Celtic from miles behind Rangers (the previous season), in his very first season to win the league at a canter. Thats what good managers do. Look at the immediate improvement Mancini made to Man City when he replaced Hughes?

There have already been protests against Lawwell, Reid and Desmond, they have responded by making funds available, Mowbray is moving rapdily to centre stage target and when that happens, like Barnes, he will be gone overnight.

matter of opinion obv tony,
for me I'd say that the team are looking better and more solid defensively (esp recently since caldwell is gone - and thats not me on a crusade against him, I'd like him if he wasnt sihte!).

what improvements have man city had ? Still gonna be borderline fourth place in epl despite all the zillions they have and will spend.

as for protests - some folk 'supporting' Celtic are never happy.There were mini protests under MON even while winning leagues, trebles, domination of rangers - the fans didnt like his style of football. protests - so what.

[lynchbhoy]

All those things (ie ability to handle pressure etc ) define a manager, and say what you like about Strachan, but he took no crap from the Press etc, and was his own man. Even if Mowbray showed a bit of passion and got the hairdryers out every now and again it would help.

Mowbray is a better off at smaller clubs like Hibs and West Brom, where not much is expected in terms of silverware or success and the natives usually, console themselves with the "nice football, nice bloke as manager" syndrome.

strachan couldnt handle pressure, he couldnt handle questions of give a decent answer - to say he took no crap is not quite true, he threw the toys out of the pram on a regular basis and if that was anywhere else - would have been an embarrassment to a club.
However as that is the cauldron of scotland, and the media are mostly hunhacks trying to twist the knife where possible, its understandable.
Only someone with huge intellect and presence/personality like MON could not only handle, but make them look like complete idiots - even he had a hard enugh time doing it as the brain dead knuckledraggers simply didnt understand they were being made fools of and repeated the same idiotic question numberous times and indeed at numerous dates !

Mowbray is as good as Celtic could get righ now.
you say  he should stick to smaller clubs but are at the same time looking for a lesser experienced man like lambert to come in to take control ...fecking hell - that doesnt make any sense Tone!

[T Fearon]

Yeah, but the evidence is, even only after a handful of games, that Mancini is a far better bet than Hughes. Six months on, after flopping abysmally in the Scottish League Cup, the Europa League, and trailing the worst Rangers team in my living memory by ten points, the jury ,at best is still out on Mowbray and at worst, has him tried, convicted and sentenced as a flop

[T Fearon]

Lynchboy, Lambert is on an upward curve, while Mowbray's has been at best horizantal throughout his career. I can't help noticing the parallel with O'Neill either, managing Wycombe, and Norwich, plus what he learned under the tutelage of the likes of Hitzfield and O'Neill.

I think its a no brainer, particularly if as it looks increasingly likely, Celtic are writing this season off, to keep Mowbray in there

[Myles Na G.]

All those things (ie ability to handle pressure etc ) define a manager, and say what you like about Strachan, but he took no crap from the Press etc, and was his own man. Even if Mowbray showed a bit of passion and got the hairdryers out every now and again it would help.

Mowbray is a better off at smaller clubs like Hibs and West Brom, where not much is expected in terms of silverware or success and the natives usually, console themselves with the "nice football, nice bloke as manager" syndrome.

strachan couldnt handle pressure, he couldnt handle questions of give a decent answer - to say he took no crap is not quite true, he threw the toys out of the pram on a regular basis and if that was anywhere else - would have been an embarrassment to a club.
However as that is the cauldron of scotland, and the media are mostly hunhacks trying to twist the knife where possible, its understandable.
Only someone with huge intellect and presence/personality like MON could not only handle, but make them look like complete idiots - even he had a hard enugh time doing it as the brain dead knuckledraggers simply didnt understand they were being made fools of and repeated the same idiotic question numberous times and indeed at numerous dates !

Mowbray is as good as Celtic could get righ now.
you say  he should stick to smaller clubs but are at the same time looking for a lesser experienced man like lambert to come in to take control ...fecking hell - that doesnt make any sense Tone!

No he's not. They could've kept Strachan, a manager with a track record of doing well at clubs with little money to spend. Instead we got rid of him and replaced him with a manager who thinks he can make a team of championship level players perform like Brazil. He tried the same at WBA and got relegated.

[T Fearon]

Myles at last we reach agreement.

[lynchbhoy]

Yeah, but the evidence is, even only after a handful of games, that Mancini is a far better bet than Hughes. Six months on, after flopping abysmally in the Scottish League Cup, the Europa League, and trailing the worst Rangers team in my living memory by ten points, the jury ,at best is still out on Mowbray and at worst, has him tried, convicted and sentenced as a flop

it puts him on a par with strachan already then....
so thats progress, he hasnt to do much more to overhaul wee ginger !

[lynchbhoy]

Lynchboy, Lambert is on an upward curve, while Mowbray's has been at best horizantal throughout his career. I can't help noticing the parallel with O'Neill either, managing Wycombe, and Norwich, plus what he learned under the tutelage of the likes of Hitzfield and O'Neill.

I think its a no brainer, particularly if as it looks increasingly likely, Celtic are writing this season off, to keep Mowbray in there

I'd ask did you not see hibs under mowbray
did you not see wba and their promotion under mowbray ?

Lambo might and I say might be good in thefuture, but he is only starting out right now and not yet good enough to be Celtic first team boss

[lynchbhoy]

All those things (ie ability to handle pressure etc ) define a manager, and say what you like about Strachan, but he took no crap from the Press etc, and was his own man. Even if Mowbray showed a bit of passion and got the hairdryers out every now and again it would help.

Mowbray is a better off at smaller clubs like Hibs and West Brom, where not much is expected in terms of silverware or success and the natives usually, console themselves with the "nice football, nice bloke as manager" syndrome.

strachan couldnt handle pressure, he couldnt handle questions of give a decent answer - to say he took no crap is not quite true, he threw the toys out of the pram on a regular basis and if that was anywhere else - would have been an embarrassment to a club.
However as that is the cauldron of scotland, and the media are mostly hunhacks trying to twist the knife where possible, its understandable.
Only someone with huge intellect and presence/personality like MON could not only handle, but make them look like complete idiots - even he had a hard enugh time doing it as the brain dead knuckledraggers simply didnt understand they were being made fools of and repeated the same idiotic question numberous times and indeed at numerous dates !

Mowbray is as good as Celtic could get righ now.
you say  he should stick to smaller clubs but are at the same time looking for a lesser experienced man like lambert to come in to take control ...fecking hell - that doesnt make any sense Tone!

No he's not. They could've kept Strachan, a manager with a track record of doing well at clubs with little money to spend. Instead we got rid of him and replaced him with a manager who thinks he can make a team of championship level players perform like Brazil. He tried the same at WBA and got relegated.

I think youll find that strachan left of his own accord....

Mowbray had wba relegated, but also had them promoted..
more than strachan had ever achieved before he took over as Celtic manager.
Then strachan had a lot of MON's old warhorses and structure to use and was easier to rebuild than the mess mowbray has inherited
thats why he is selling so many players- because they are rubbish !

[rossie mad]

I think feraon like most of us on here want a to see celtic being a success but where we both differ is that he wants success now which is understanable where as im prepared for mowbrary to build his own squad and his own way of thinking.
As odea said yesterday the manager is trying different things which the players welcome so its also down to the players to be getting these results.
Lambert going to celtic now would be to soon for him.managing in league one is different to managing one of the biggest clubs in england or scotland.

Hamilton tomorrow and it goes without saying three points is a must.
They will be sticky going by their recent form against rangers so concentration must be high but i still think three points by two goals is the likely outcome.

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