The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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Myles Na G.

With Hibs just 2 points behind, Celtic are on well on the way to finishing 3rd in a 2 horse race. Mowbray seems like a nice guy, but he hasn't a f**king clue when it comes to management. He made West Brom one of the easiest teams to beat in the EPL and Celtic are rapidly turning into the same sort of outfit.

T Fearon

Surely now Strachan's achievements should be the subject of a revision by his critics. Mowbray is a disaster and ticked one box only, that of being "CELTIC MINDED" Only 41,000 there tonight,very ominous

Club Rossa

Mowbray in his post match interview reckons that Celtic are heading in the right direction. ???

rossie mad

Maybe if some of the previous posters took off the blinkers and forgot about the present for 5 minutes and try to see that mowbray is building for the future.The league is gone and forget about it.Did you see celtics back four last night for god sake.experience wouldnt be their strong point in fairness.

Mowbray has obviuosly got the backing of the board until next season at least and to say that the only box he ticked was that he was celtic minded is pure bull.
The man has celtic playing football again and none of this boring rubbish we endured under WGS.
He has to take a squad built by strachan which was only built for one game plan.

We can see what he thinks of a lot of the current squad seeing that he is selling most of them.
Hibs are a good side and have a good manager and had the longest unbeaten run in the league for a long time.
I actually didnt expect us to win last night as i thought hibs would have been up for it but i was expecting a point at least.

Its disappointing but this calling for is head is pure glory hunting and give the man a chance.
Would lamber do things different?
Somethings yes but he would try and play the same kind of football as mowbray.
Lamberts experience with norwich or colchester wouldnt strike any real chords with the celtic board and it would be a massive step up for him in terms of clubs.

Now knowing my luck after placing my two feet firmly in the mowbray camp he will probably get the sack after the weekend :P

lynchbhoy

saw the game - did any of you? Celtic all over hibs and should have scored a few
Mowbray hardly to blame for hibs nicking the match at the death as it was poor shooting again let them down.
Some great passing moves and mowbray canonly be blamed for not signing better strikers earlier and maybe also for not taking mcginn off sooner - two games in a row that he was s**te.
Actually any time I see him he is poor.
Should have brought on mccourt as he looked on form last weekend.

I'd agree that Mobrway has Celtic heading in the right direction. Playing far better than under strachan. See he is doing fantactically well still with boro !
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Club Rossa

I don't know how people that were blaming Strachan last season can absolve Mowbray from any blame this season.Christ,Hibs are now breathing down our necks and i wouldn't be too sure that we will even finish 2nd.
Rangers haven't bought a player in the last couple of transfer windows yet are still at the top because they have a  manager who gets the best out of limited players,something that Mowbray is unable to do.
Isn't it just great that he has Celtic playing football again,10 points behind Rangers and 2 ahead of Hibs.

T Fearon

Liam Brady had Celtic playing the "right" type of football (which is largely out of place amid the hammer throwers of the SPL), so that's no recommendation. I would look over all this if Rangers were even moderately good, but FFS they didn't even have a striker in January and still have a ten point lead.

Caldwell on the mark for Wigan last night, James Mc Carthy (a lad who would have been ideal for Celtic but the biscuit tin wasn't prised open wife enough, in contrast to the relative fortune laid out for Fortune, pardon the pun) set hi up, Flood on target for Middlesbro on Saturday, Boro had a great away win on Tuesday etc.

At the end of the day, Robson, Caldwell etc all had experience of going on 6 or 7 winning runs top clinch league titles, they are scrappers, and I don't see many of those around Celtic Park at the moment.

Lambert,a proven winner as a player (what did Mowbray ever win?) and Celtic minded, has taken Norwich from a 7-1 home defeat on the first day of the season to the top of the league. I can't remember the last time they lost. That sounds to me like a man with credentials and experience of lifting team morale, transforming fortunes and inducing among his players a will to win, all of which are conspicuous by their absence at Celtic Park.

the colonel

was actually at the game myself. Fortune was great throughout the whole game. McGeady and McGinn were terrible. Samaras was doing ok to a stage then he just lost the plot. One of the things that pisses me of, in the crowd last night at nil nil all the fans encourage and cheer the team. Once it we were up it improved, but when they got their goal outta nowhere the idiots in the crowd starting goin beserk. Was unbelievable. still level and you think it was end of the world. this is bount to effect the players. The ref had an absolute mare and how he didnt give a free kick for a foul on Ki which led to their goal I do no know

some serious idiots as fans and people on message boards (not saying anyone here is an idiot, from other boards I also read)

But to contradict myself yes fans pay in etc... are allowed to complain at times but its the jekyl and hyde nature that I hate
the difference between success and failure is energy

T Fearon

To be fair, football fans are the same the world over, but you can understand the frustration of Celtic fans, when their great rivals are penniless, can't sign anyone (in contrast to Celtic), haven't even a fit recognised striker ffs, but still pick up maximum points, week in week out, and have established a ten point lead.

I for one quite enjoyed the Strachan era, the 1-0 win over Man Utd to qualify for the Champions League knockout stages was on a par with Armagh's All Ireland win in 2002, as the top sporting occasion I've been at.

Also I was at the game last February when they hammered St Mirren 7-0, in spite of his alleged boring football. Could you imagine Mowbray's team doing that to anyone?

As for managers I would have John Hughes of Hibs before Mowbray, he kept Falkirk up and took them to the Cup Final last year, and is doing a magnificent job with Hibs. Liam Miller was man of the match last night. He has far better managerial credentials than Mowbray, in my opinion

rossie mad

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caldwell scoring last night or flood scoring an absolute fluke saturday has SFA to do with last night.Boro winning against bloody Doncaster has SFA to do with last night.

They are not arguments for last nights loss as both players are gone and rightly so.Nearly every celtic fan was delighted to see the back of caldwell and as for flood totally over rated and if boro get promoted he wont in their first team squad next year as he doesnt have the talent for the premeirship.

We dont have a finisher apart from skippy who is out of form and the greek is an absolute disgrace.
Taking a club from mid table to the summit of any league in the early part of a season is no managerial miracle and in lamberts case he was a proven winner in a good squad of players ie he had talent around him which unlike the current celtic squad which is full of bit players at best.Who assembled this squad?

Why is playing good football out of place in the SPL tony?
What did teams managed by MON or Wim Jansen play?

We had Josh Thompson and darren o dea playing in the centre of defence last night.Two very inexperienced defenders.
Is anyone going to give hibs credit for their win?
They are a good side and deserve to be in the position they are in because they have been consistent.
Will sacking mowbary win the league this season?
Not a chance so give him and the team a chance,this ridiculous knee jerk reaction is typical of fans who are glory hunters and get itchy feet when a few results dont go their way.
Ill hold up my hands if im wrong but mowbray in my mind will be a successful manager of celtic and will be for some time.

JohnDenver

Quote from: T Fearon on January 28, 2010, 10:25:41 AM
Liam Brady had Celtic playing the "right" type of football (which is largely out of place amid the hammer throwers of the SPL), so that's no recommendation. I would look over all this if Rangers were even moderately good, but FFS they didn't even have a striker in January and still have a ten point lead.

Caldwell on the mark for Wigan last night, James Mc Carthy (a lad who would have been ideal for Celtic but the biscuit tin wasn't prised open wife enough, in contrast to the relative fortune laid out for Fortune, pardon the pun) set hi up, Flood on target for Middlesbro on Saturday, Boro had a great away win on Tuesday etc.

At the end of the day, Robson, Caldwell etc all had experience of going on 6 or 7 winning runs top clinch league titles, they are scrappers, and I don't see many of those around Celtic Park at the moment.

Lambert,a proven winner as a player (what did Mowbray ever win?) and Celtic minded, has taken Norwich from a 7-1 home defeat on the first day of the season to the top of the league. I can't remember the last time they lost. That sounds to me like a man with credentials and experience of lifting team morale, transforming fortunes and inducing among his players a will to win, all of which are conspicuous by their absence at Celtic Park.

You talk some sh1te tony  :D  Remind me the wigan result from last night where caldwells main job is to keep out goals?

And how did flood get his goal at the weekend?

What did Jose Mourinho ever win as a player remind me? And look at Bryan Robson, Roy Keane for top players who didn't/haven't proved themselves as managers.

I would judge Mowbray when next season when he's had a year to shape a squad and get rid of the dead wood that strachan had hanging around.

lynchbhoy

Quote from: T Fearon on January 28, 2010, 10:25:41 AM
Liam Brady had Celtic playing the "right" type of football (which is largely out of place amid the hammer throwers of the SPL), so that's no recommendation. I would look over all this if Rangers were even moderately good, but FFS they didn't even have a striker in January and still have a ten point lead.

Caldwell on the mark for Wigan last night, James Mc Carthy (a lad who would have been ideal for Celtic but the biscuit tin wasn't prised open wife enough, in contrast to the relative fortune laid out for Fortune, pardon the pun) set hi up, Flood on target for Middlesbro on Saturday, Boro had a great away win on Tuesday etc.

At the end of the day, Robson, Caldwell etc all had experience of going on 6 or 7 winning runs top clinch league titles, they are scrappers, and I don't see many of those around Celtic Park at the moment.

Lambert,a proven winner as a player (what did Mowbray ever win?) and Celtic minded, has taken Norwich from a 7-1 home defeat on the first day of the season to the top of the league. I can't remember the last time they lost. That sounds to me like a man with credentials and experience of lifting team morale, transforming fortunes and inducing among his players a will to win, all of which are conspicuous by their absence at Celtic Park.
Jaysus Tone, rangers had boyd or novo as well as miller in jan - maybe not all at the same time so thats pants !

caldwell was dire for celtic, and while the defence is still a bit fragile, they look far better than when he was playing. Josh thompson looks like a great prospect !

winning as a player means nothing when a manager - ask ferguson, john barnes, lou macari, arsene wenger, liam brady !

afaik McCarthy was offered he same deal to go to Celtic but chose to go south ! Being a Celtic fan is not always the clincher- and I'd agree with his moving south!

I have issues with some of mowbrays team selections, but its not the style of play its that they look like a better more cohesive team and are better looking in defence - though conceded two soft goals - albeit completely against the run of play.

If Celtic were to get mourinho or hiddink or MON I'd quickly drop mowbray, but he is as good as Celtic can get right now and while John Hughes has hibs playing and winning well (didnt they beat the huns just before Christmas?) Mowbray did the same in his stint with the hibees !

Celtic can still win the league, but they may not. However I think they are coming together and improving as a side. It might not be enough for this season ...but will see what happens !
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T Fearon

Bottom line I think is the Celtic squad of last season should have won the league, Rangers signed no body and should have been there for the taking, with the squad Mowbray inherited.

Its not as if he was asked to do a Wim and transform a team that was miles off the pace.

In modern football at big clubs, managers are expected to do a job quickly. Mowbray has given no hint that he is up to the task and should have been able to win this league while rejuvenating the squad simultaneously, give the dire state of Rangers.

The attendances will prove his undoing. Only 41,000 there last night, and I'm telling you Celtic fans will not patiently wait a year for things to turn around.

the colonel

if strachans squad was so good why did he not win the league last year Tony?
the difference between success and failure is energy

lynchbhoy

Quote from: T Fearon on January 28, 2010, 01:02:05 PM
Bottom line I think is the Celtic squad of last season should have won the league, Rangers signed no body and should have been there for the taking, with the squad Mowbray inherited.

Its not as if he was asked to do a Wim and transform a team that was miles off the pace.

In modern football at big clubs, managers are expected to do a job quickly. Mowbray has given no hint that he is up to the task and should have been able to win this league while rejuvenating the squad simultaneously, give the dire state of Rangers.

The attendances will prove his undoing. Only 41,000 there last night, and I'm telling you Celtic fans will not patiently wait a year for things to turn around.
they were off the pace last year - if they were any good they would have won the league.
they didnt and this team were looking worse this season.

managers are expected to do as well as possible, but no rightminded Celtic fan can complain that mowbray isnt winning 7-0 having less money to spend than strachan and a team of misfits !
at least he is jettisoning the deadwood now !
Is strachan expected to work miracles immediately with boo - its not going so well right now if thats the case !
Same with fergie to man u ...wanst exactly a roaring success initially !

reality Tone reality !
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