The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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trailer

Quote from: dublin7 on February 27, 2019, 04:19:04 PM
Quote from: trailer on February 27, 2019, 11:11:57 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on February 27, 2019, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 27, 2019, 12:55:44 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 26, 2019, 10:37:14 PM
This talk of Celtics poor Euro form. What do people expect like? There's not a hope in hell Celtic could compete with the major teams from Spain Italy, England Germany etc.

The fact is, Scottish football is a minnow league in Europe and the tv money they get is minuscule, and their teams will just not be good enough when up against the super powers
Yabba yabba  yabba, Who is expecting Celtic to pump league winners from the top leagues in Europe?
Quit with the hysterical nonsense.
Celtic did well in europe with Lennon and with a bit more support from the board that level of "success" could have been maintained. It's not out of the equation that a club like Celtic can achieve what a club like Ajax or Benfica do manage on a more regular basis. Champions league group stages is a goal, not a right.
No they cant. They may do it the odd time but they cant match them financially to do it consistently. I used to go over to Celtic matches. Still support them, but I look at football now as just entertainment, the money has completely ruined any semblance of a level playing field. Last year Celtic didnt even feature in the Worlds top 100 richest clubs. Benfica were 66th and Ajax were 36th. QPR were 82nd. Puts it in perspective. Leicester were 19th. The timing might leave a bad taste in the mouth, but I feel a lot of it is down to hurt egos in the realization of where Celtic are at in the football hierarchy. Some supporters just don't want to admit that.

Interesting numbers. Can Celtic not sell the brand? Surely with a massive fan base that they have they should be able to leverage more money on the corporate side? The Scottish league isn't going to get massive viewing numbers and the money you get for competing in that is reflective. But surely a massive club like Celtic should have 100's of corporate partners? No? Utd for example have all sorts of corporate deals. Even their training kit and ground is sponsored.

The team that finishes bottom of the premier league will earn more in tv revenue than Celtic will for winning the league. Premier League product games is franchised all over the world and generates millions for the clubs not just in tv income, but through sponsorship and corporate branding. Celtic can't compete with that as no one outside of the UK & Ireland wants to watch Scottish football.

So do they or do they not have a massive fan base? If they have a massive fan base they shouldn't have any issue generating huge revenue streams. That is irrespective of the league they compete in.
Celtic may have been a big club with a great history. Now it looks like they're just a historic club.

MoChara

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 27, 2019, 04:52:46 PM
Dermot Desmond has been trying to get Celtic out of SPL for years. Hopefully this will happen at some stage. Celtic will never dine at the top table again until they do


Always thought it was strange Rangers when having to work from the bottom up didn't just apply to join the English leagues

STREET FIGHTER

Thoughts on any Celtic players to follow Brendan Rogers to Leicester??

lynchbhoy

Quote from: trailer on February 27, 2019, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 27, 2019, 04:19:04 PM
Quote from: trailer on February 27, 2019, 11:11:57 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on February 27, 2019, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 27, 2019, 12:55:44 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 26, 2019, 10:37:14 PM
This talk of Celtics poor Euro form. What do people expect like? There's not a hope in hell Celtic could compete with the major teams from Spain Italy, England Germany etc.

The fact is, Scottish football is a minnow league in Europe and the tv money they get is minuscule, and their teams will just not be good enough when up against the super powers
Yabba yabba  yabba, Who is expecting Celtic to pump league winners from the top leagues in Europe?
Quit with the hysterical nonsense.
Celtic did well in europe with Lennon and with a bit more support from the board that level of "success" could have been maintained. It's not out of the equation that a club like Celtic can achieve what a club like Ajax or Benfica do manage on a more regular basis. Champions league group stages is a goal, not a right.
No they cant. They may do it the odd time but they cant match them financially to do it consistently. I used to go over to Celtic matches. Still support them, but I look at football now as just entertainment, the money has completely ruined any semblance of a level playing field. Last year Celtic didnt even feature in the Worlds top 100 richest clubs. Benfica were 66th and Ajax were 36th. QPR were 82nd. Puts it in perspective. Leicester were 19th. The timing might leave a bad taste in the mouth, but I feel a lot of it is down to hurt egos in the realization of where Celtic are at in the football hierarchy. Some supporters just don't want to admit that.

Interesting numbers. Can Celtic not sell the brand? Surely with a massive fan base that they have they should be able to leverage more money on the corporate side? The Scottish league isn't going to get massive viewing numbers and the money you get for competing in that is reflective. But surely a massive club like Celtic should have 100's of corporate partners? No? Utd for example have all sorts of corporate deals. Even their training kit and ground is sponsored.

The team that finishes bottom of the premier league will earn more in tv revenue than Celtic will for winning the league. Premier League product games is franchised all over the world and generates millions for the clubs not just in tv income, but through sponsorship and corporate branding. Celtic can't compete with that as no one outside of the UK & Ireland wants to watch Scottish football.

So do they or do they not have a massive fan base? If they have a massive fan base they shouldn't have any issue generating huge revenue streams. That is irrespective of the league they compete in.
Celtic may have been a big club with a great history. Now it looks like they're just a historic club.
????

A massive fan base doesnt consistently and easily  generate the 100 million a year in tv revenue

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lynchbhoy

Quote from: MoChara on February 27, 2019, 07:11:51 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 27, 2019, 04:52:46 PM
Dermot Desmond has been trying to get Celtic out of SPL for years. Hopefully this will happen at some stage. Celtic will never dine at the top table again until they do


Always thought it was strange Rangers when having to work from the bottom up didn't just apply to join the English leagues
The English leagues have voted no to admitting Celtic and rangers every time the subject was raised...
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: ONeill on February 27, 2019, 12:06:09 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on August 12, 2017, 11:51:17 PM
I don't think his race with Celtic is run yet.Brendan will not be at Celtic Park for a long time.It is clear from the book that he sees the chance of rehabilitation here after Liverpool,and you sense he desperately wants to prove himself on the European stage.

I can see Lennon,like big Jock,moving back to Celtic Park.The question is,will he, or indeed any other future Celtic manager get the autonomy and spending power that Brendan enjoys.

Good call.

Tony is probably creaming his pants somewhere in cyberspace
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

charlieTully

That trailer ejit who posts crap on this thread and a few others misses the point of the brand as he calls it. The brand is being in any city in any country at any time and finding a place you can watch a Celtic match with like minded people. It's supporters clubs all over the world. It's being part of something bigger. You have to be in it to know what it is. It is more than just a club.

ned

Some people are hard of thinking. Let them waffle on but please don't quote them.

tyroneStatto

was going to post about how mentally weak some of the celtic players were but eff that now. what a hugely important result is that!

tonto1888

Quote from: charlieTully on February 27, 2019, 08:38:26 PM
That trailer ejit who posts crap on this thread and a few others misses the point of the brand as he calls it. The brand is being in any city in any country at any time and finding a place you can watch a Celtic match with like minded people. It's supporters clubs all over the world. It's being part of something bigger. You have to be in it to know what it is. It is more than just a club.

Don't be worrying about him pal. Bloody idiot is the term that comes to mind.
Good win tonight

screenexile

Good to see a wee club get a result after a tough week... fair play!

Targetman

Great win tonight, not a great performance especially against 10 men but delighted for Lenny, Kennedy and Duff, apparently the Leicester board were prepared to wait until the summer for Rodgers but he wanted to go ASAP, well feck you Rodgers the banner at tonight's match said it all, enjoy your mediocrity!!

STREET FIGHTER

Quote from: screenexile on February 27, 2019, 09:56:40 PM
Good to see a wee club get a result after a tough week... fair play!

Anti Utd & Celtic this man..... :o

screenexile

Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 27, 2019, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 27, 2019, 09:56:40 PM
Good to see a wee club get a result after a tough week... fair play!

Anti Utd & Celtic this man..... :o

I'm actually not anti Celtic I like to see them do well. The craziness of some supporters and this "oh but we're more than just a club" thing gets on my wick a bit because Celtic are the same as every other club a business and a brand.

Dolph1

Quote from: screenexile on February 27, 2019, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 27, 2019, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 27, 2019, 09:56:40 PM
Good to see a wee club get a result after a tough week... fair play!

Anti Utd & Celtic this man..... :o

I'm actually not anti Celtic I like to see them do well. The craziness of some supporters and this "oh but we're more than just a club" thing gets on my wick a bit because Celtic are the same as every other club a business and a brand.

Petty.
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