The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[illdecide]

Seriously i remember watching that Hearts game thinking "Holy F**k if any of them flares touch that flag material that is over everyone's head it would have been catastrophic" lucky enough it didn't happen. We could argue or talk/discuss all day and we'll never agree on it but if you take the same argument away from a Football Ground and take it to a Road running near a resedintial area, there may never have been any one killed on that Road but minor accidents and traffic volumes will soon tell you that the potential is there for a child to be knocked down and killed and law of averages will tell you it will happen eventually so to reduce the risk of this happening we introduce Traffic Calming measures to reduce the speed of the vehicles and therefore reduce the risk of someone losing their life.

The golden rule...It may never have happened before but that doesn't mean it will not happen...Anyway have a nice day...

[Kilkevan]

Seriously i remember watching that Hearts game thinking "Holy F**k if any of them flares touch that flag material that is over everyone's head it would have been catastrophic" lucky enough it didn't happen. We could argue or talk/discuss all day and we'll never agree on it but if you take the same argument away from a Football Ground and take it to a Road running near a resedintial area, there may never have been any one killed on that Road but minor accidents and traffic volumes will soon tell you that the potential is there for a child to be knocked down and killed and law of averages will tell you it will happen eventually so to reduce the risk of this happening we introduce Traffic Calming measures to reduce the speed of the vehicles and therefore reduce the risk of someone losing their life.

The golden rule...It may never have happened before but that doesn't mean it will not happen...Anyway have a nice day...

If they were holding flares underneath banners then that is stupid. That's where I'm making the distinction between using them in a relatively safe way and using them recklessly. The ultras I've been with in Italy seem to have, in the vast majority of cases, a bit of cop on in how they use them, perhaps because they're accustomed to doing so. Perhaps the GB, not being used to using them don't know or realise that they do have to be used wisely. I'm going to continue taking the perceived risk of using them at the San Siro and I'm sure you're going to continue to think I shouldn't so we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Hectic]

For me the biggest problem with flares is your fellow supporters with respiratory problems. The fire or burn hazard these days is minimal apart from those at the scene. And then there are the laws....

[Main Street]

Time for the Green Brigade to wise to f*%k up. Their statement is basically saying we bring great support to the team and noise to the stadium and it comes at the cost of us doing what we like regardless of safety law to which the club must comply and the rules of the competitions we aspire to be in.

I am with them that the game is bent and every man has the right to his own opinion and how he expresses himself but they have to learn where and when.

They actually, in their statement, cite issues in the game yet their displays are not about these. If that is their stated grievance why not have that at the forefront of their displays?

I have a soft spot for them like a lot of Celtic supporters but they need to become more savvy.

I read their statement here. If the club does not close the dialogue then I think the issues can be kept just inside the legal barrier.
http://www.talkingbaws.com/2017/07/green-brigade-release-statement-response-2-game-ban/

The conundrum is
that they took the decision as a group to have the pyro display last May and  the undefeated army banner v Linfield, they say they are willing to accept full responsibility,  but have an issue with the punishment being collective, affecting all the group.

"we take this opportunity to accept full responsibility for both the pyrotechnics display to celebrate the achievements of the Lisbon Lions at the Hearts match in May and our 'Brendan's Undefeated Army' tifo during the match against Linfield on Wednesday evening."

"We do however completely oppose collective punishment and a blanket ban on all fans in our block is disproportionate and unjust therefore we call on the board to revise this decision."


As they say, you have to take it on the chin and quit the whining.

I agree with some of what you say mate. But I agree it's unfair to ban all 900 people in that section. The vast majority won't have been involved in the flares or the banners. Ban the GB. I believe there's about 40/50 of hem illdecide is that right? I can see both sides but I think banning all 900 is over he top

i thought the whole section was Green Brigade? When they march to the ground as a group before the game, it looks to be much more than 50.

[T Fearon]

http://glasgowgospel.org/exclusive-raging-rodgers-ready-to-walk-over-banner-embarrassment/

I told you,and will be followed by Desmond,all because of a handful of pricks who probably know little or nothing about Irish politics or history.

[charlieTully]

http://glasgowgospel.org/exclusive-raging-rodgers-ready-to-walk-over-banner-embarrassment/

I told you,and will be followed by Desmond,all because of a handful of pricks who probably know little or nothing about Irish politics or history.

Couldn't agree more. I love a good singalong in the bars but it has no place at the stadium and the banners were out of order.

[ned]

FFS. BR will not quit over this. That site is the Glasgow equivalent of the Sunday World.

[Hectic]

Yeah the press will be out to divide us as much as possible over this but Rodgers will not walk because of this. Utter BS.

The standing section is not exclusively Green Brigade.

[T Fearon]

You think not? I would say no football manager would want his image linked with any paramilitary group.

[an léirmheastóir]

Some glar talked on this page.

[red hander]

http://glasgowgospel.org/exclusive-raging-rodgers-ready-to-walk-over-banner-embarrassment/

I told you,and will be followed by Desmond,all because of a handful of pricks who probably know little or nothing about Irish politics or history.

FFS, you've done nothing but whinge about Rodgers since he was appointed, now there's talk of him walking you should be delighted 

[tonto1888]

Time for the Green Brigade to wise to f*%k up. Their statement is basically saying we bring great support to the team and noise to the stadium and it comes at the cost of us doing what we like regardless of safety law to which the club must comply and the rules of the competitions we aspire to be in.

I am with them that the game is bent and every man has the right to his own opinion and how he expresses himself but they have to learn where and when.

They actually, in their statement, cite issues in the game yet their displays are not about these. If that is their stated grievance why not have that at the forefront of their displays?

I have a soft spot for them like a lot of Celtic supporters but they need to become more savvy.

I read their statement here. If the club does not close the dialogue then I think the issues can be kept just inside the legal barrier.
http://www.talkingbaws.com/2017/07/green-brigade-release-statement-response-2-game-ban/

The conundrum is
that they took the decision as a group to have the pyro display last May and  the undefeated army banner v Linfield, they say they are willing to accept full responsibility,  but have an issue with the punishment being collective, affecting all the group.

"we take this opportunity to accept full responsibility for both the pyrotechnics display to celebrate the achievements of the Lisbon Lions at the Hearts match in May and our 'Brendan's Undefeated Army' tifo during the match against Linfield on Wednesday evening."

"We do however completely oppose collective punishment and a blanket ban on all fans in our block is disproportionate and unjust therefore we call on the board to revise this decision."


As they say, you have to take it on the chin and quit the whining.

I agree with some of what you say mate. But I agree it's unfair to ban all 900 people in that section. The vast majority won't have been involved in the flares or the banners. Ban the GB. I believe there's about 40/50 of hem illdecide is that right? I can see both sides but I think banning all 900 is over he top

i thought the whole section was Green Brigade? When they march to the ground as a group before the game, it looks to be much more than 50.

The GB themselves are about 50 strong. They attract lots of people as can be seen from the corteos and their section

[tonto1888]

http://glasgowgospel.org/exclusive-raging-rodgers-ready-to-walk-over-banner-embarrassment/

I told you,and will be followed by Desmond,all because of a handful of pricks who probably know little or nothing about Irish politics or history.

I've read that article a couple times and it's a load of crap. Nothing concrete and a lot of speculation and a tweet from someone apparently in the know. A sensationalist headline to suck people in. File under nonsense

[T Fearon]

I have not winged about him.Merely thought the winning of the treble unbeaten in Scotland last year was vastly overhyped,that's all.If he does walk under the circumstances who else will take the job? Any Celtic manager has enough to deal with,never mind this sort of crap.I have no doubt Dermot Desmond will go to,he probably will feel it's damaging to his wider business interests.

[Main Street]

Time for the Green Brigade to wise to f*%k up. Their statement is basically saying we bring great support to the team and noise to the stadium and it comes at the cost of us doing what we like regardless of safety law to which the club must comply and the rules of the competitions we aspire to be in.

I am with them that the game is bent and every man has the right to his own opinion and how he expresses himself but they have to learn where and when.

They actually, in their statement, cite issues in the game yet their displays are not about these. If that is their stated grievance why not have that at the forefront of their displays?

I have a soft spot for them like a lot of Celtic supporters but they need to become more savvy.

I read their statement here. If the club does not close the dialogue then I think the issues can be kept just inside the legal barrier.
http://www.talkingbaws.com/2017/07/green-brigade-release-statement-response-2-game-ban/

The conundrum is
that they took the decision as a group to have the pyro display last May and  the undefeated army banner v Linfield, they say they are willing to accept full responsibility,  but have an issue with the punishment being collective, affecting all the group.

"we take this opportunity to accept full responsibility for both the pyrotechnics display to celebrate the achievements of the Lisbon Lions at the Hearts match in May and our 'Brendan's Undefeated Army' tifo during the match against Linfield on Wednesday evening."

"We do however completely oppose collective punishment and a blanket ban on all fans in our block is disproportionate and unjust therefore we call on the board to revise this decision."


As they say, you have to take it on the chin and quit the whining.

I agree with some of what you say mate. But I agree it's unfair to ban all 900 people in that section. The vast majority won't have been involved in the flares or the banners. Ban the GB. I believe there's about 40/50 of hem illdecide is that right? I can see both sides but I think banning all 900 is over he top

i thought the whole section was Green Brigade? When they march to the ground as a group before the game, it looks to be much more than 50.

The GB themselves are about 50 strong. They attract lots of people as can be seen from the corteos and their section

Then I'd say they are Green Brigade members for match day. Most of the section  appear to march together before the game, they congregate together deliberately in that section and generally do the Green Brigade ultra thing together.
Unless you are going to get the core group of 50 to stand up and admit their sole responsibility for the violations, then Celtic are quite within the bounds of reason to treat the section as one. If it's harsh then the section will just have to suck it and stand together in the harsh times.