The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[BennyHarp]

We are not talking about Ronald Koeman,he is operating under different circumstances and expectations and targets.We are talking about the Celtic manager's failure to deliver in Europe,failure to make the team competitive in Europe and failure to recognise simple basics like when he gets an equaliser away from home,against the run of play and with his opponents down to ten men and a win an absolute must,you don't tolerate square balls in the back four or the lack of confidence to go for the win.

Nonsense, the are operating under similar pressures. Plus, Koeman is on a wage similar to Rodgers. A thing you keep banging on about. He has a bigger budget due to the TV money, he has better players and his teams capitulation to Chelsea is far worse than Celtic v Barcelona. Rodgers may be judged on his performances in Europe but Koeman is judged on how he competes in the prem. He has a much more competitive weekly competition on which to build his team and get them to the required level. However, Koeman is doing a good job....he will have blips like this, no sane Everton fan is calling for his head. You allow no time for progress to take place and shows either a complete lack of understanding of football or just some sort of vindictive vendetta against Rodgers.

[T Fearon]

Ronald Koeman should be judged on the Everton thread.His expectation is to keep Everton in the top half of the Premiership.Nothing more.

The thing about Celtic in Europe this season is  there is no progression,just a graph with a few peaks,and many more troughs.If I genuinely saw any sign of sustained progress I would acknowledge such.

[bennydorano]

No you wouldn't, you're just a crooked tithead who holds his ground and outlasts others in arguments as they see sense and realise there's air getting in somewhere.

It's clear from your post about the BMG match you didn't even watch it (or else you're really just a liar). I only saw the last 10/15 minutes & Celtic were pretty much camped in their half with Henderson & McGregor spurning great chances - supposedly from a team who showed no urgency. FRAUD of the highest order.

[tonto1888]

Ronald Koeman should be judged on the Everton thread.His expectation is to keep Everton in the top half of the Premiership.Nothing more.

The thing about Celtic in Europe this season is  there is no progression,just a graph with a few peaks,and many more troughs.If I genuinely saw any sign of sustained progress I would acknowledge such.

No progression? We are in the CL. That's progression you gombeen

[T Fearon]

Last time I checked we've been in the Champions League for a number of years.

[StGallsGAA]

Last time I checked we've been in the Champions League for a number of years.

Then the last time you checked you were wrong.  Unless of course your frivolous argumentative point is that every time Celtic win the league they enter the CL qualification rounds?  If so  then you've run out of arguments and are being a puerile idiot.

[T Fearon]

Still is the Champions League.Stumbling into this year's group stages,luckily beating  teams most of us have never heard of is no commendation.

[From the Bunker]

Still is the Champions League.Stumbling into this year's group stages,luckily beating  teams most of us have never heard of is no commendation.

I'm afraid it's only a Qualification competition until the group stages! It's open to qualifying for the Europa League also! So you are not in the Champions League proper competition.

Now please go away and educate yourself on the structures and financial running's of football.

[T Fearon]

By winning any league,even the Irish League,you qualify for the Champions League competition.Apart from the financial benefits it is not particularly satisfying if you reach the group stages but are not competitive therein.

[charlieTully]

if you get a draw with the previous seasons semi finalists, and a draw away against a German side with a fantastic home crowd behind them one could argue that is being competitive?

[T Fearon]

No.2 points out of a possible 12 and a minus 9 goal difference,and all but out of the competition barring a miracle,after four games is conclusive evidence that we are not at all competitive.

[imtommygunn]

So would you sack him?

[T Fearon]

No point at this stage,allow him to finish the European campaign,but I'd put him on notice that his one year rolling contract will no longer roll beyond next summer

[From the Bunker]

Anyway lets get to the Crux of the Rogers era!

He's an average Manager.
He's only a couple of months at the Club.
He's with a decent Club, with often unreal expectations!
He has at best average to piss poor players.
It's hard for Celtic fans to get excited by any win in Scotland!
He has no money - in the European scheme of things.
One of his so called better players is Toure who has been past it a year or two plus by English Premier League standard.
Celtic are caught in no mans land - they are not a Big club financially and they are not small Club fan base wise!
Asking players to churn out decent results consistently in Europe against far superior opposition is unrealistic.
You will get a gem of a performance here and there, but realistically big clubs will learn how to beat you.
Expecting Celtic to rise their game in Europe is like expecting the Scottish teams to rise theirs against Celtic.

[bennydorano]

Less of the realism plz