The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[southderryman]

That is where he earns his £2m salary,by solving problems and meeting targets.The squad he inherited was too big but there is enough quality there with a few additions (for which he was given funds) to get into the group stages,providing of course they are properly managed.

As I say there is no hiding place or honeymoons at this level.Season ticket sales etc have all taken place on the realistic expectation that Champions League group qualification will be achieved.Major setback if this target is not achieved.Of course there are no easy opponents,from here on in.That does not excuse failure

Tell me more about these funds he was given? I must have missed that

There is a distinct lack of quality in the squad. We need a centre half. We have a ridiculous amount of midfielders and the majority are woeful....we have likes of biton who is gutless and brown who is done. The fact we look better when we these 2 dont play and mcgregor plays in the centre speaks volumea. Griffiths has done well domestically but doesn't cut it in Europe.  Dumbele is just a young lad and needs time to develop

Again you're sitting him up for a fall. If you honestly believe that squad is good enough to qualify for the CL then you're not worth debating with

Season ticket sales have primarily been based on those who abandoned us when the going got tough returning as they thought the board was showing ambition, which they haven't yet backed up with transfer funds. I've spoken with hundreds of Celtic supporters since Rodgers was appointed, very few expect CL qualification based on the current. They still bought their season tickets because they support the club not on a conditional basis of what they think should be achieved

[southderryman]

Tony, I was sure you only had one Celtic share  to get you in the door at AGM, to hobnob a bit.

Unrealistic expectations,. Ronny's team performed much better in his first year than in his 2nd season in Europe.
The squad Ronnie left behind  may have potential to be good enough to qualify but wasn't when he left and not much has changed. Rodgers would need a season to build it up. If Rodgers does manage to get Celtic into the CLgroup stages with this squad, then it will be one of his greatest managerial achievements so far.

The expectations from realistic fans are, credible performance in the EL group stages but most importantly win the spl. title and  beat Rangers.

Some sanity 

[T Fearon]

Ronny achieved all of that,it wasn't good enough.Rodgers is not being paid millions to achieve mediocrity.Champions League group qualification should be and is a realistic attainment in return for such a huge salary.After all it's not as if you have to beat the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona to qualify.

[southderryman]

Ronny achieved all of that,it wasn't good enough.Rodgers is not being paid millions to achieve mediocrity.Champions League group qualification should be and is a realistic attainment in return for such a huge salary.After all it's not as if you have to beat the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona to qualify.

Do you go out of your way to ignore the obvious? The man said that was achieved in the first year under deila.

It was plainly obvious we were going backwards in his second season. We didn't win any of our 10 last European games under Ronny. The semi final and the cowardly way he set the team up was the straw that broke the camels back.

And again, you mention the opposition.  Take a look at Astanas results at home last season. Compare that with ours.

If we manage to get through that, it gets even more difficult in the next round. Stop looking at names and face facts, we're miles off champions league standard. As main Street says, qualification would be a fanatic achievement

[T Fearon]

Why are we paying the manager a huge,record salary? To repeat winning the SPL? A team of Celtic's  stature and budget (in comparison to most others in the qualification rounds),and seeding, should realistically expect to qualify for the Champions League every year.This is not an unrealistic expectation.Astana's budget is no where near Celtic's.This will be a massive failure,for which there will be no excuse.You pay a manager a big salary and you expect him to deliver big results

[Il Bomber Destro]

Because the huns are back and Deila wouldn't cut the mustard.

[southderryman]

Why are we paying the manager a huge,record salary? To repeat winning the SPL? A team of Celtic's  stature and budget (in comparison to most others in the qualification rounds),and seeding, should realistically expect to qualify for the Champions League every year.This is not an unrealistic expectation.Astana's budget is no where near Celtic's.This will be a massive failure,for which there will be no excuse.You pay a manager a big salary and you expect him to deliver big results

Completely twisting the argument here and you know it. What we're talking about here is the current squad.

Nobody has said we don't have better resources than a lot of those teams. The fact is, we've suffered years of mismanagement at first team and board level. Millions have been squandered on utter shite. It is entirely unrealistic to expect a new manager to wave a magic wand and have us qualifying for the CL within a matter of weeks of taking over when he's lumbered with a large overpaid and below quality squad.

The manager will be expected to deliver, in time. As I've said, next seasons qualifiers is what he should be judged on, when he's had his chance to put his own stamp on the team and sign his own players. If you're going to judge him in July/ August, when he was only appointed at the end of may and has only had the players back 4 or 5 weeks says alot about your mindset and a complete lack of common sense

[T Fearon]

Rangers have no chance of winning SPL.The club have not gone out on a limb and paid a record salary to retain the SPL.The fans demand more,only the return of the big European nights will suffice.

Football managers ,on huge salaries,in charge of big clubs are required to deliver immediate results.

[southderryman]

Because the huns are back and Deila wouldn't cut the mustard.

The huns died 4 years ago

Deila was a shambles in Europe which is what cost him his job

[T Fearon]

Exactly,that's why Rodgers has been brought in on a record salary,to fix this problem right away

[southderryman]

Exactly,that's why Rodgers has been brought in on a record salary,to fix this problem right away

Jesus Christ you're ridiculous 

[illdecide]

Seriously Tony, i know you're a bit of a wind up merchant as seen on previous threads but FFS you don't need to be winding up on this thread. BR will be expected to deliver no doubt about that and no matter if hes earns £100 a week or £40,000 per week is irrelevant, he's Celtic manager and needs to win. Id we make into CL this year it'll be great and for me we'll be punching above our weight with the squad we have. However, this time next year will be a different matter when BR has got rid of the players he feels is not good enough and has 4-5 of his own signings then he can be judged.

[T Fearon]

I would be quite confident in saying that he has been set a Group Stage target for this year,and rightly so..Celtic can't afford a settling in year and to wave goodbye to £10m quid.Look after this round (if they make it through) Celtic  will come up against a team of roughly the standard of Bate/Dundalk (one of which will be in the final round).Are we seriously saying Rodgers,who already has players who have been transferred for £12m at his disposal,should be excused if he fails to defeat teams like this and qualify? I don't think so.

Apart from Ambrose,who is not good enough by the way? I repeat we are not up against the cream of Europe,just obscure teams from Eastern Europe and Scandanavia,who none is us could name a single player from.

[Main Street]

I would be quite confident in saying that he has been set a Group Stage target for this year,and rightly so..Celtic can't afford a settling in year and to wave goodbye to £10m quid.Look after this round (if they make it through) Celtic  will come up against a team of roughly the standard of Bate/Dundalk (one of which will be in the final round).Are we seriously saying Rodgers,who already has players who have been transferred for £12m at his disposal,should be excused if he fails to defeat teams like this and qualify? I don't think so.

Apart from Ambrose,who is not good enough by the way? I repeat we are not up against the cream of Europe,just obscure teams from Eastern Europe and Scandanavia,who none is us could name a single player from.

If Celtic beat Astana over 2 legs then we will see who they get in the play off round, then we can discuss that task.

[T Fearon]

It should be irrelevant,Celtic have a bigger and better squad and budget than any of their potential opponents.Competent management is now required.