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Angelo

Quote from: NAG1 on November 06, 2020, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: Angelo on November 06, 2020, 09:30:32 AM
Quote from: clarshack on November 06, 2020, 09:24:32 AM
is the scottish cup final not a problem? as you'd be sacking a manager one game away from his own treble but that game isn't until the 20th December, and there's no way the board can wait that long.

This is a season like no other. Lennon should have been sacked after the Ferencvaros game in all honesty, the writing was on all the wall then. We're now 9 points off Rangers at the top, out of Europe and with 1 win in 6 games.

Lennon got the job on sentimental reasons and the board knowing that he would swallow whatever shit they gave as he was beholden to them for a job that he would not get anywhere else.

This has dragged on for too long. Lennon's comments after the game last night were embarrassing - deflecting the blame onto the players again. He did the same against Ferencvaros, he is the manager.

Any manager worth his salt would have called the players out last night it was unacceptable on a professional level. Regardless of the manager.

Good managers don't deflect bad form on to players, they take the responsibility themselves - they are the manager who picks the team, works on things in the training ground and employs the tactics. Lennon has been fielding out of form players for months now so why is he surprised when they let him down?
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Angelo

Quote from: Applesisapples on November 06, 2020, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 06, 2020, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: Angelo on November 06, 2020, 09:30:32 AM
Quote from: clarshack on November 06, 2020, 09:24:32 AM
is the scottish cup final not a problem? as you'd be sacking a manager one game away from his own treble but that game isn't until the 20th December, and there's no way the board can wait that long.

This is a season like no other. Lennon should have been sacked after the Ferencvaros game in all honesty, the writing was on all the wall then. We're now 9 points off Rangers at the top, out of Europe and with 1 win in 6 games.

Lennon got the job on sentimental reasons and the board knowing that he would swallow whatever shit they gave as he was beholden to them for a job that he would not get anywhere else.

This has dragged on for too long. Lennon's comments after the game last night were embarrassing - deflecting the blame onto the players again. He did the same against Ferencvaros, he is the manager.

Any manager worth his salt would have called the players out last night it was unacceptable on a professional level. Regardless of the manager.
To be fair to Lennon he did call them out last night. I felt sorry for him after the game, he was obviously upset. As an out and out Celt he does not deserve the level of vitriol he is getting, although I agree he has to accept responsibility for that debacle. John Kennedy has been there a long time and seems to be teflon. If Lennon stays he needs to shake up his staff and some players need dropped. The myth of Rogic was exposed last night. He is decent and nothing more Nctham could offer more if he is handled correctly.Edouard will not have a queue in January at this rate. As for Elyonussi absolute disregard for colleagues and fans, needs that phone shoved up his arse.
Oh as for Duffy, he is better than that but even in hurling and football you always protect your fullback (centre back).

The myth of Rogic? He was one of our best players last night and at the heart of any decent play, a great ball set Frimpong through for a chance, great touch for the Griffiths goal too.

The problem is not guys like Rogic who will be demoted to the bench after a bad performance, the problem is a manager who persists with his favourites regardless of form or fitness. Ntcham has been dreadful this season.

We need a new manager in who is up to the job. Lennon isn't, he'll never get a job of this magnitude again. He only got it because he's a yes man who will appease to the fans for sentimental reasons.
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illdecide

Was posting late from the phone last night so didn't go into much detail but things are not good. No matter what the players say or what the Board say things have went too far and there is clearly an issue there which i can't see rectifying itself so something has to happen. Scott Brown has come out and said it's 100% the players fault but that won't matter one iota as it'll fall on the manager as it always does, as i said last night the Board are probably meeting this morning discussing it but what will they do?. Will they wait until after Sunday's game and give them a bit of time to look out for another target or wipe him out this afternoon.
Rogic? sorry but i'm with NL on this one. Slow and loses possession so easily and puts the team under pressure
N'Tcham? Not good enough and seems like he doesn't give a feck
ELYOUNOUSSI? On his phone in the stand...WTF
MCGREGOR? Never said a bad word about him but last nights performance was unacceptable
Duffy? Might as well play Colin Duffy FFS
Bitton? Too slow
No decent goal keeper
H. ABD ELHAMED? Thought he was better but seems it's not the case
Brown? under performing and prob the years are catching up on him
Christie? was poor last night but is usually decent
4 forwards? Eddie is way off the pace, Griff still over weight, Ajeti a bit slow but not sure yet on him, Klimala not good enough

Things need changing there's no doubt on that...who, what , where & when?.
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MoChara

Could we say Lennon's position is no longer TENable  ;D :) ??? :-\ :-[ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

illdecide

Quote from: MoChara on November 06, 2020, 12:39:14 PM
Could we say Lennon's position is no longer TENable  ;D :) ??? :-\ :-[ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Ha...seen what u did there. What a gay guy
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Targetman

Quote from: illdecide on November 06, 2020, 11:59:34 AM
Was posting late from the phone last night so didn't go into much detail but things are not good. No matter what the players say or what the Board say things have went too far and there is clearly an issue there which i can't see rectifying itself so something has to happen. Scott Brown has come out and said it's 100% the players fault but that won't matter one iota as it'll fall on the manager as it always does, as i said last night the Board are probably meeting this morning discussing it but what will they do?. Will they wait until after Sunday's game and give them a bit of time to look out for another target or wipe him out this afternoon.
Rogic? sorry but i'm with NL on this one. Slow and loses possession so easily and puts the team under pressure
N'Tcham? Not good enough and seems like he doesn't give a feck
ELYOUNOUSSI? On his phone in the stand...WTF
MCGREGOR? Never said a bad word about him but last nights performance was unacceptable
Duffy? Might as well play Colin Duffy FFS
Bitton? Too slow
No decent goal keeper
H. ABD ELHAMED? Thought he was better but seems it's not the case
Brown? under performing and prob the years are catching up on him
Christie? was poor last night but is usually decent
4 forwards? Eddie is way off the pace, Griff still over weight, Ajeti a bit slow but the not sure yet on him, Klimala not good enough

Things need changing there's no doubt on that...who, what , where & when?.

Good summary there, the Colin Duffy one definitely deserves a 👏, if Lennon gets the road who's gonna turn things around?

Main Street

Agreed on Rogic, he's not ready to start such a game. I would also add there appeared to be a complete tactics/player format shambozzle, so much so that even players who never give up, Laxalt and Frimpong, were left peeing against the wind,  their efforts not making any impact.

Angelo

Quote from: Main Street on November 06, 2020, 02:15:28 PM
Agreed on Rogic, he's not ready to start such a game. I would also add there appeared to be a complete tactics/player format shambozzle, so much so that even players who never give up, Laxalt and Frimpong, were left peeing against the wind,  their efforts not making any impact.

Start such a game?

We were playing an inferior team who were down about half their starting regular side, who had lost both their games by 3 goals in the group stage so far.

Trying to scapegoat Rogic for managerial errors is laughable, Rogic was actually one of the few bright points in that team.
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Main Street

Quote from: Angelo on November 06, 2020, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 06, 2020, 02:15:28 PM
Agreed on Rogic, he's not ready to start such a game. I would also add there appeared to be a complete tactics/player format shambozzle, so much so that even players who never give up, Laxalt and Frimpong, were left peeing against the wind,  their efforts not making any impact.

Start such a game?

We were playing an inferior team who were down about half their starting regular side, who had lost both their games by 3 goals in the group stage so far.

Trying to scapegoat Rogic for managerial errors is laughable, Rogic was actually one of the few bright points in that team.
You're a permanent source of deliberate misinterpretation and bullshite.

Angelo

Quote from: Main Street on November 06, 2020, 04:28:20 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 06, 2020, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 06, 2020, 02:15:28 PM
Agreed on Rogic, he's not ready to start such a game. I would also add there appeared to be a complete tactics/player format shambozzle, so much so that even players who never give up, Laxalt and Frimpong, were left peeing against the wind,  their efforts not making any impact.

Start such a game?

We were playing an inferior team who were down about half their starting regular side, who had lost both their games by 3 goals in the group stage so far.

Trying to scapegoat Rogic for managerial errors is laughable, Rogic was actually one of the few bright points in that team.
You're a permanent source of deliberate misinterpretation and bullshite.

You're either very bad at articulating a point or just being dim here.

You said he was not ready to start such a game.

Such a game is a match at home to a side who would not have anywhere near the pedigree or resources Celtic have, who were decimated by injuries and whose domestic league had been suspended, who lost their two prior group games by 3 goals on both occasions.

Rogic on the other hand was off the back of 4 assists in his last two starts and played a key role in the only goal we scored.

The starting side was the exact same formation and players as had started at the weekend, which had illdecide jizzing his pants over.

Next time you make a point, try and have some semblance of logic to it.


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rodney trotter

They need to make some push for a European League. United and Liverpool were talking about it, but  its not necessary for those Clubs. The Pl is a good league and well financed. Being a big fish in small pond going for 10 in a row isn't that challenging.

Celtic in a league with teams from Countries like Austria, Switzerland, Denmark, Czech, Holland



illdecide

Angelo can only see 2-3 good things a player does in a game but the other 7-8 bad things go un noticed...

It's like the midfielder in the GAA who catches 3-4 wonder catches from midfield but does feck all and doesn't track his man who scores 1-4 from play but his 3-4 great catches gets him the pat on the back. Tam is the same where he could set up a goal or do a few fancy flicks but gives the ball away 10 times and the opposition runs riot.
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Angelo

Quote from: illdecide on November 06, 2020, 10:54:54 PM
Angelo can only see 2-3 good things a player does in a game but the other 7-8 bad things go un noticed...

It's like the midfielder in the GAA who catches 3-4 wonder catches from midfield but does feck all and doesn't track his man who scores 1-4 from play but his 3-4 great catches gets him the pat on the back. Tam is the same where he could set up a goal or do a few fancy flicks but gives the ball away 10 times and the opposition runs riot.

I find it bizarre how Rogic is being singled out here after a bad game.

There's about 8/9 players who deserver to be dropped ahead of Rogic from Thursday night. You'd be lucky to have a handful of players who did 2/3 good things in the game Thursday night.

Rogic has been treated really poorly by Lennon. Will Brown start at the weekend do you think?
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illdecide

You'll find back on the last page i roasted about 12 players
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Angelo

Lennon with his poppy on display today.
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