South Belfast North of Ireland Supporters Club

[dublinfella]

the white red hand of Ulster flag.
Generally the unionist community, but is the recognised flag of the 6 counties in sport.

By whom? First time I've heard of it.

Sure don't the ulster representatives on the rugby team, David Humphries, Rory Best and pals line up with the tricolour and amhrann na bhfiann? It's going that way so you might as well get used to the song.

Not when they are playing for Ulster, which is what we are discussing here....

[lynchbhoy]

not too hard to pick these out from the prev posts

you still havent answered ....
what is a 'six county flag' ?
who does it represent?
Commissioned by who ?

is it 'political ' when in occurrence in co cork or co carlow ?
if so please tell me how (or relate to us how it is)
and when you and gnevin admit it isnt  then its the same for any part of Ireland
who in the GAA is calling for a united Ireland ?


yer starting to rack them up, then again typical soccer pigs head throwing louts dont know the meaning of manners !

In order - the white red hand of Ulster flag.

Generally the unionist community, but is the recognised flag of the 6 counties in sport.

How would I know?

Yes

The rules of the GAA insist that the Irish flag and anthem are utiliised no matter where the game is played. Thats a statement that the GAA supports a version of Irishness others don't share so can be seen as exclusionary.

The rules of the GAA clearly call for a 32 county Irish entity. Surely you aren't a memeber of an association whose rulebook and aims you haven't read?

As for the insults, well thats par for the course with you, isn't it.

thats not the 'flag' of northern Ireland.
Correct not representative of the whole community and a devisive flag which is what the complaint in this thread is about.
Doesnt normally stop you spouting rubbish.

Its political - well thats made me laugh. I'd wonder how!
Really, must look to see where the national flag is next time we play junior football and wonder which one of the panel can belt out the national anthem. Showing your a la carte Gaa knowledge there roversboy!
Please tell / show us how and where this 'aim' (as gnevin puts it) is enforced or followed up. We all know you cant, as this 'rule' does not exist in anything other than written (albeit historic) format.


well as for the insults - you started that long ago in this thread and it was a lot worse than my jibe!
Yet you didnt cry aloud that 'you are not a soccer fan' this time as you usually do and took the comment applicable to (rovers) soccer fans - so I think you can safely say that you have been 'caught out' this time !

so still no answers yet from roversfella and gnevin...

[lynchbhoy]

I shall re-iterate my prev answer to you, slowly this time .

The Association is a National Organisation which has as its basic aim the strengthening of the National Identity of a 32 County Ireland through the preservation and promotion of Gaelic games and pastimes."
do you hear or see this often? The first time I heard of this was on this website a few months back.
Maybe it is dredged up in your club and if so then your club do have over-political leanings, but this line dates back to the origial charters of the GAA and is I suppose kept for historical purposes more than anything else.
Unless you can tell me differently - that the GAA do enforce and follow this creed, I would have to say that this is pants and is effectively non-existent in the GAA.

so please come back with some ACTUAL political GAA-centric evidence. Otherwise its just rehashed nonsense.

do you see this enforcement often (of the above statementor 'aim' as you put it),
if so where and when!

I think all credit to vocal projection must be to yourself as I dont expect an answer to either!

Get proved wrong so move the goalpost typical of you .

Not moving anything. It either exists in usage/reality or it doesnt.

so you cant/wont answer he question - or is it that you have been proven wrong !

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The rule exists and no about of news-speak by you will change this fact .
http://www.gaa.ie/files/gaa_official_guide2003.pdf
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where and when have you ever seen/heard this being enforced - is the question that was put to you.
We all know it exists in print. But does it exist in reality.

(e.g. rem the death penalty exists in print for anyone that kills a copper - which means those guys released the other day should have been shot/hung)

so in your own time....

[Gnevin]

Please tell / show us how and where this 'aim' (as gnevin puts it) is enforced or followed up. We all know you cant, as this 'rule' does not exist in anything other than written (albeit historic) format.

Are you slow, P5 of the 2003 official guide read it . Rule 17b also applies so there is nothing historic about this .

[carribbear]

the white red hand of Ulster flag.
Generally the unionist community, but is the recognised flag of the 6 counties in sport.

By whom? First time I've heard of it.
Sure don't the ulster representatives on the rugby team, David Humphries, Rory Best and pals line up with the tricolour and amhrann na bhfiann? It's going that way so you might as well get used to the song.

Not when they are playing for Ulster, which is what we are discussing here....

But thats a bastardised version of the ulster flag. this is the real one.

[lynchbhoy]

the white red hand of Ulster flag.
Generally the unionist community, but is the recognised flag of the 6 counties in sport.

By whom? First time I've heard of it.

Sure don't the ulster representatives on the rugby team, David Humphries, Rory Best and pals line up with the tricolour and amhrann na bhfiann? It's going that way so you might as well get used to the song.

Not when they are playing for Ulster, which is what we are discussing here....

so its not political when these lads play for Ireland
but its political when in cork of carlow etc

hmmmm - hardly consistent there our rovers claim jumping old pal !

[Gnevin]

I shall re-iterate my prev answer to you, slowly this time .

The Association is a National Organisation which has as its basic aim the strengthening of the National Identity of a 32 County Ireland through the preservation and promotion of Gaelic games and pastimes."
do you hear or see this often? The first time I heard of this was on this website a few months back.
Maybe it is dredged up in your club and if so then your club do have over-political leanings, but this line dates back to the origial charters of the GAA and is I suppose kept for historical purposes more than anything else.
Unless you can tell me differently - that the GAA do enforce and follow this creed, I would have to say that this is pants and is effectively non-existent in the GAA.

so please come back with some ACTUAL political GAA-centric evidence. Otherwise its just rehashed nonsense.

do you see this enforcement often (of the above statementor 'aim' as you put it),
if so where and when!

I think all credit to vocal projection must be to yourself as I dont expect an answer to either!

Get proved wrong so move the goalpost typical of you .

Not moving anything. It either exists in usage/reality or it doesnt.

so you cant/wont answer he question - or is it that you have been proven wrong !

The rule exists and no about of news-speak by you will change this fact .
http://www.gaa.ie/files/gaa_official_guide2003.pdf

where and when have you ever seen/heard this being enforced - is the question that was put to you.
We all know it exists in print. But does it exist in reality.

(e.g. rem the death penalty exists in print for anyone that kills a copper - which means those guys released the other day should have been shot/hung)

so in your own time....

1 The death penalty no longer exists in any way shape or form in Ireland or the UK .
2 Your just attempting to deflect from the content of this rule by saying it's not enforced. If it's so unimportant why is it listed second after the GAA's name ?

[dublinfella]

the white red hand of Ulster flag.
Generally the unionist community, but is the recognised flag of the 6 counties in sport.

By whom? First time I've heard of it.
Sure don't the ulster representatives on the rugby team, David Humphries, Rory Best and pals line up with the tricolour and amhrann na bhfiann? It's going that way so you might as well get used to the song.

Not when they are playing for Ulster, which is what we are discussing here....

But thats a bastardised version of the ulster flag. this is the real one.

I don't disagree, but it is the reality we face.

Do you agree Fearon is applying a double standard in condemning a supporters bar for flying the red hand flag yet supporting the GAA flying tricolours?

[dublinfella]

so its not political when these lads play for Ireland
but its political when in cork of carlow etc

hmmmm - hardly consistent there our rovers claim jumping old pal !

Stop sniffing glue.

You have nothing whatsoever to contribute to this debate and have made a complete fool of yourself. I'm out.

[lynchbhoy]

so its not political when these lads play for Ireland
but its political when in cork of carlow etc

hmmmm - hardly consistent there our rovers claim jumping old pal !

Stop sniffing glue.

You have nothing whatsoever to contribute to this debate and have made a complete fool of yourself. I'm out.

well that may be your chosen recreational habit, but it aint mine.
It would explain why you cannot respond to the questions though.

[T Fearon]

I am not displaying double standards. The fact is that an organisation whose alleged aim is to promote soccer, a global sport, and nothing else in an extremely polarised society should not use the flags and emblems peratining to one side of that polarised community, particularly when that same organisation is under the mircoscope for its sectarian past

Analogies with the GAA are completely irrelevant.

[carribbear]

I don't disagree, but it is the reality we face.

Do you agree Fearon is applying a double standard in condemning a supporters bar for flying the red hand flag yet supporting the GAA flying tricolours?

Sorry, I don't get your reality. The flag isn't correct and if NI wants to eradicate sectarianism it would do well to find common ground in the flag and anthem (until they are assimilated into a 32 county team)

[lynchbhoy]

I shall re-iterate my prev answer to you, slowly this time .

The Association is a National Organisation which has as its basic aim the strengthening of the National Identity of a 32 County Ireland through the preservation and promotion of Gaelic games and pastimes."
do you hear or see this often? The first time I heard of this was on this website a few months back.
Maybe it is dredged up in your club and if so then your club do have over-political leanings, but this line dates back to the origial charters of the GAA and is I suppose kept for historical purposes more than anything else.
Unless you can tell me differently - that the GAA do enforce and follow this creed, I would have to say that this is pants and is effectively non-existent in the GAA.

so please come back with some ACTUAL political GAA-centric evidence. Otherwise its just rehashed nonsense.

do you see this enforcement often (of the above statementor 'aim' as you put it),
if so where and when!

I think all credit to vocal projection must be to yourself as I dont expect an answer to either!

Get proved wrong so move the goalpost typical of you .

Not moving anything. It either exists in usage/reality or it doesnt.

so you cant/wont answer he question - or is it that you have been proven wrong !

The rule exists and no about of news-speak by you will change this fact .
http://www.gaa.ie/files/gaa_official_guide2003.pdf

where and when have you ever seen/heard this being enforced - is the question that was put to you.
We all know it exists in print. But does it exist in reality.

(e.g. rem the death penalty exists in print for anyone that kills a copper - which means those guys released the other day should have been shot/hung)

so in your own time....

1 The death penalty no longer exists in any way shape or form in Ireland or the UK .
2 Your just attempting to deflect from the content of this rule by saying it's not enforced. If it's so unimportant why is it listed second after the GAA's name ?

I brought up the death penalty example toshow you that even when enshrined (written) in law the death penalty was not used or followed.
Thats legislative criminal law , not the charter of a sports organisation where 'aims' matter less.

so with that point made, please refrain from avoiding the question yet again and tell us where , when and who it was that you saw following this 'aim'.
Or is it as we all know a load of c**p from you again (admittedly with better spelling at long last)

[Gnevin]

I don't disagree, but it is the reality we face.

Do you agree Fearon is applying a double standard in condemning a supporters bar for flying the red hand flag yet supporting the GAA flying tricolours?

Sorry, I don't get your reality. The flag isn't correct and if NI wants to eradicate sectarianism it would do well to find common ground in the flag and anthem (until they are assimilated into a 32 county team)

So lets take the first step and get rid of the flag and anthem in the GAA!

[dublinfella]

I don't disagree, but it is the reality we face.

Do you agree Fearon is applying a double standard in condemning a supporters bar for flying the red hand flag yet supporting the GAA flying tricolours?

Sorry, I don't get your reality. The flag isn't correct and if NI wants to eradicate sectarianism it would do well to find common ground in the flag and anthem (until they are assimilated into a 32 county team)

Agreed. But if NI as a whole can't do so, its a tad unfair to expect the IFA to sort it all out. Also, could the GAA not make a similar step and not fly tricolours in the 6 or is it all up to themmuns to change?