Jackson's autopsy results revealed

Started by jimbo, June 29, 2009, 08:42:06 AM

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The Real Laoislad

Quote from: Barney on July 08, 2009, 10:49:22 AM
Do ye reckon the body was in the casket brought to the Staples Center?

Thought the same thing myself,I was half expecting some crazed fan to make a run for the coffin at the end
You'll Never Walk Alone.

SidelineKick

Quote from: stew on July 08, 2009, 04:19:04 PM
In life the man paid off two families who claimed Jackson had molested their sons. I for one wont be lamenting his loss.

The revered Al Sharpton, the mouthy preacher someone liked earlier is nothing but a hypocritical slabber, worse than Jesse Jackson, they both show up wherever the is a bit of publicity to be found.

Only in American can you be acquitted by buying off the families of the children who suffered at a paedo's hands. In this country it seems that if you have money you can buy your way out of anything. Shame.

I wonder if any of the Mods will have anything to say about this comment...
"If you want to box, say you want to box and we'll box"

Reported.

muppet

Quote from: SidelineKick on July 08, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: stew on July 08, 2009, 04:19:04 PM
In life the man paid off two families who claimed Jackson had molested their sons. I for one wont be lamenting his loss.

The revered Al Sharpton, the mouthy preacher someone liked earlier is nothing but a hypocritical slabber, worse than Jesse Jackson, they both show up wherever the is a bit of publicity to be found.

Only in American can you be acquitted by buying off the families of the children who suffered at a paedo's hands. In this country it seems that if you have money you can buy your way out of anything. Shame.

I wonder if any of the Mods will have anything to say about this comment...

It is an idiotic comment.

I read recently where Slash was in studio working on a couple of Jackson's songs he asked about the ridiculous amount of equipment lying around. He was told that Jackson (or at least his producers) rented the most expensive of everything they could get their hands on even if there was no chance of ever using it. When Slash commented that it was a waste of money he was told that at that moment there were another ten studios all over the States booked up and kitted out similarly just in case Michael felt 'inspired' to record in another city.

When he asked about paying off the law suits he was told that Michael said to pay them, money was what they wanted and it was just easier than going to court.
MWWSI 2017

longrunsthefox

Quote from: SidelineKick on July 08, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: stew on July 08, 2009, 04:19:04 PM
In life the man paid off two families who claimed Jackson had molested their sons. I for one wont be lamenting his loss.

The revered Al Sharpton, the mouthy preacher someone liked earlier is nothing but a hypocritical slabber, worse than Jesse Jackson, they both show up wherever the is a bit of publicity to be found.

Only in American can you be acquitted by buying off the families of the children who suffered at a paedo's hands. In this country it seems that if you have money you can buy your way out of anything. Shame.

I wonder if any of the Mods will have anything to say about this comment...

There seems to be an ignorance on board on what constitutes libel. Mod earlier warned of 'libelous' remarks about Jackson. DEAD MEN CANNOT SUE -ie: be libelled.  While it might seem cowardly or distasteful (to some) it ain't libellous.

Check out remarks by Peter King from American press and websites...

"A New York congressman says Michael Jackson was a "pervert" and calls on society to stop "glorifying" the late entertainer in a YouTube video.
Rep. Peter King said Jackson -- whom he called a "low-life" -- is being glorified in the days after his death while society ignores the efforts, of teachers, police officers, firefighters and veterans. In the two-minute video, King claims the "day in and day out" coverage of Jackson's death is "too politically correct."
"Let's knock out the psychobabble," King said in the video taped outside an American Legion Hall on New York's Long Island. "He was a pervert, a child molester; he was a pedophile. And to be giving this much coverage to him, day in and day out, what does it say about us as a country? I just think we're too politically correct."
King, a Republican who is among the possible contenders for the seat held by Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, said Jackson "may have been a good singer" and "did some dancing," but blasted the singer as someone who could not be trusted around children.
"There's nothing good to say about this guy," King continued. "But the bottom line is, would you let your child or grandchild be in the same room as Michael Jackson?"   

muppet

Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 08, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on July 08, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: stew on July 08, 2009, 04:19:04 PM
In life the man paid off two families who claimed Jackson had molested their sons. I for one wont be lamenting his loss.

The revered Al Sharpton, the mouthy preacher someone liked earlier is nothing but a hypocritical slabber, worse than Jesse Jackson, they both show up wherever the is a bit of publicity to be found.

Only in American can you be acquitted by buying off the families of the children who suffered at a paedo's hands. In this country it seems that if you have money you can buy your way out of anything. Shame.

I wonder if any of the Mods will have anything to say about this comment...

There seems to be an ignorance on board on what constitutes libel. Mod earlier warned of 'libelous' remarks about Jackson. DEAD MEN CANNOT SUE -ie: be libelled.  While it might seem cowardly or distasteful (to some) it ain't libellous.

Check out remarks by Peter King from American press and websites...

"A New York congressman says Michael Jackson was a "pervert" and calls on society to stop "glorifying" the late entertainer in a YouTube video.
Rep. Peter King said Jackson -- whom he called a "low-life" -- is being glorified in the days after his death while society ignores the efforts, of teachers, police officers, firefighters and veterans. In the two-minute video, King claims the "day in and day out" coverage of Jackson's death is "too politically correct."
"Let's knock out the psychobabble," King said in the video taped outside an American Legion Hall on New York's Long Island. "He was a pervert, a child molester; he was a pedophile. And to be giving this much coverage to him, day in and day out, what does it say about us as a country? I just think we're too politically correct."
King, a Republican who is among the possible contenders for the seat held by Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, said Jackson "may have been a good singer" and "did some dancing," but blasted the singer as someone who could not be trusted around children.
"There's nothing good to say about this guy," King continued. "But the bottom line is, would you let your child or grandchild be in the same room as Michael Jackson?"   

So if you posted the same about oh say St Patrick you reckon no one should have a problem because technically he died and can't sue?
MWWSI 2017

red hander

Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 08, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on July 08, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: stew on July 08, 2009, 04:19:04 PM
In life the man paid off two families who claimed Jackson had molested their sons. I for one wont be lamenting his loss.

The revered Al Sharpton, the mouthy preacher someone liked earlier is nothing but a hypocritical slabber, worse than Jesse Jackson, they both show up wherever the is a bit of publicity to be found.

Only in American can you be acquitted by buying off the families of the children who suffered at a paedo's hands. In this country it seems that if you have money you can buy your way out of anything. Shame.

I wonder if any of the Mods will have anything to say about this comment...

There seems to be an ignorance on board on what constitutes libel. Mod earlier warned of 'libelous' remarks about Jackson. DEAD MEN CANNOT SUE -ie: be libelled.  While it might seem cowardly or distasteful (to some) it ain't libellous.

Check out remarks by Peter King from American press and websites...

"A New York congressman says Michael Jackson was a "pervert" and calls on society to stop "glorifying" the late entertainer in a YouTube video.
Rep. Peter King said Jackson -- whom he called a "low-life" -- is being glorified in the days after his death while society ignores the efforts, of teachers, police officers, firefighters and veterans. In the two-minute video, King claims the "day in and day out" coverage of Jackson's death is "too politically correct."
"Let's knock out the psychobabble," King said in the video taped outside an American Legion Hall on New York's Long Island. "He was a pervert, a child molester; he was a pedophile. And to be giving this much coverage to him, day in and day out, what does it say about us as a country? I just think we're too politically correct."
King, a Republican who is among the possible contenders for the seat held by Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, said Jackson "may have been a good singer" and "did some dancing," but blasted the singer as someone who could not be trusted around children.
"There's nothing good to say about this guy," King continued. "But the bottom line is, would you let your child or grandchild be in the same room as Michael Jackson?"   


Now that he's in the ground and the 'don't speak ill of the dead' period starts coming to an end, I think the media are gonna dig up a hell of a lot of muck on him.  The way the guy behaved round kids was totally creepy, that can't be denied.  The fact that he was willing to splash out money willy-nilly on anything from studios and equipment to paying off the families of those kids he was alleged to have abused probably prevented the media reporting some of the dirt they had on him for fear this same money would have been used on libel actions ... now that threat is gone the gloves will come off big-style IMO.

heganboy

i was very surprised there were no stories came out day after his death.
Noone has claimed he is the father of their child
Noone has slept with him
no one has claimed they were molested

any thoughts on why?

Any paper that had the story would clean up this week with all the hype over the last few days
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

milltown row

Quote from: red hander on July 08, 2009, 07:03:05 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 08, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on July 08, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: stew on July 08, 2009, 04:19:04 PM
In life the man paid off two families who claimed Jackson had molested their sons. I for one wont be lamenting his loss.

The revered Al Sharpton, the mouthy preacher someone liked earlier is nothing but a hypocritical slabber, worse than Jesse Jackson, they both show up wherever the is a bit of publicity to be found.

Only in American can you be acquitted by buying off the families of the children who suffered at a paedo's hands. In this country it seems that if you have money you can buy your way out of anything. Shame.

I wonder if any of the Mods will have anything to say about this comment...

There seems to be an ignorance on board on what constitutes libel. Mod earlier warned of 'libelous' remarks about Jackson. DEAD MEN CANNOT SUE -ie: be libelled.  While it might seem cowardly or distasteful (to some) it ain't libellous.

Check out remarks by Peter King from American press and websites...

"A New York congressman says Michael Jackson was a "pervert" and calls on society to stop "glorifying" the late entertainer in a YouTube video.
Rep. Peter King said Jackson -- whom he called a "low-life" -- is being glorified in the days after his death while society ignores the efforts, of teachers, police officers, firefighters and veterans. In the two-minute video, King claims the "day in and day out" coverage of Jackson's death is "too politically correct."
"Let's knock out the psychobabble," King said in the video taped outside an American Legion Hall on New York's Long Island. "He was a pervert, a child molester; he was a pedophile. And to be giving this much coverage to him, day in and day out, what does it say about us as a country? I just think we're too politically correct."
King, a Republican who is among the possible contenders for the seat held by Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, said Jackson "may have been a good singer" and "did some dancing," but blasted the singer as someone who could not be trusted around children.
"There's nothing good to say about this guy," King continued. "But the bottom line is, would you let your child or grandchild be in the same room as Michael Jackson?"   


Now that he's in the ground and the 'don't speak ill of the dead' period starts coming to an end, I think the media are gonna dig up a hell of a lot of muck on him.  The way the guy behaved round kids was totally creepy, that can't be denied.  The fact that he was willing to splash out money willy-nilly on anything from studios and equipment to paying off the families of those kids he was alleged to have abused probably prevented the media reporting some of the dirt they had on him for fear this same money would have been used on libel actions ... now that threat is gone the gloves will come off big-style IMO.

the white gloves?

as for buying people off, surely these families that let their precious kids stay with a man, with issues would have pursued a Paedo regardless of the amount of money given to them to shut them up???

had Jackson been found guilty then the families would have got the same money if not more and Jackson would have been behind bars. for me that would have been a better way of putting closure on the debate once and for all

ONeill

Quote from: ziggysego on July 08, 2009, 04:44:19 PM
I have to agree with you stew, stomach wasn't good listening to all that.

As for Al Sharpton.... WTF? I was half expecting him to claim that Jackson ended slavery in the USA too!

Why on earth would you sit through it when you claim he was an evil man with evil ways and will meet his maker?
No one made you do it i'm sure. I can't think of one reason why I'd watch a memorial service for someone I disliked or abhorred.
Talk about going out of your way to be offended/disgusted.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Main Street

Apparently its an indispensable part of the gaa culture to go out of their way to be grossly offended by some event (eg a football match) and forget about the remote control option

I didn't follow the Jackson news, but I heard a sort of witness report that it was an anti climax held in the midst of empty streets, they even had to open the gates to  pull people in to fill the empty spaces, that the ordinary apathetic citizen in LA was brought to paroxysms of anger when the police closed down freeways that morning, in anticipation of a huge influx of  "mourners", that thousands of cops were on duty to police the non event, that the public purse is millions of dollars lighter.
Hardly a day that you'd say the music died.

milltown row

well that was the LA police department that decided to close the freeways that morning, surely nothing to do with the Jacksons. or maybe they bought the police department? the same ones who tried to convict him of being a molester

ziggysego

Quote from: ONeill on July 08, 2009, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on July 08, 2009, 04:44:19 PM
I have to agree with you stew, stomach wasn't good listening to all that.

As for Al Sharpton.... WTF? I was half expecting him to claim that Jackson ended slavery in the USA too!

Why on earth would you sit through it when you claim he was an evil man with evil ways and will meet his maker?
No one made you do it i'm sure. I can't think of one reason why I'd watch a memorial service for someone I disliked or abhorred.
Talk about going out of your way to be offended/disgusted.

The point of my thread wasn't about his alleged past. I'm not getting into that again. My views are known, so what's the point going on about it.

Rather it was about how Jackson is being protrayed now. The way Sharpton was going on was way over the top, even you must agree with that. Anyway, at that point I switched over.
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stew

Quote from: muppet on July 08, 2009, 06:08:02 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on July 08, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: stew on July 08, 2009, 04:19:04 PM
In life the man paid off two families who claimed Jackson had molested their sons. I for one wont be lamenting his loss.

The revered Al Sharpton, the mouthy preacher someone liked earlier is nothing but a hypocritical slabber, worse than Jesse Jackson, they both show up wherever the is a bit of publicity to be found.

Only in American can you be acquitted by buying off the families of the children who suffered at a paedo's hands. In this country it seems that if you have money you can buy your way out of anything. Shame.

I wonder if any of the Mods will have anything to say about this comment...

It is an idiotic comment.

I read recently where Slash was in studio working on a couple of Jackson's songs he asked about the ridiculous amount of equipment lying around. He was told that Jackson (or at least his producers) rented the most expensive of everything they could get their hands on even if there was no chance of ever using it. When Slash commented that it was a waste of money he was told that at that moment there were another ten studios all over the States booked up and kitted out similarly just in case Michael felt 'inspired' to record in another city.

When he asked about paying off the law suits he was told that Michael said to pay them, money was what they wanted and it was just easier than going to court.

There is nothing idiotic about it, he paid money to two different families to get them to back away from their claims, he slept with children not his own and he was said to have touched them inappropriately, what the fcuk kept him out of jail? MONEY is the answer, see OJ, Mark Chmura and every other herer out there who got away with light sentences or off altogether because of back stair dealing.

I wouldnt listen to his music for love nor money, he sickened me the second I heard he had paid families off.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

ONeill

Quote from: ziggysego on July 08, 2009, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 08, 2009, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on July 08, 2009, 04:44:19 PM
I have to agree with you stew, stomach wasn't good listening to all that.

As for Al Sharpton.... WTF? I was half expecting him to claim that Jackson ended slavery in the USA too!

Why on earth would you sit through it when you claim he was an evil man with evil ways and will meet his maker?
No one made you do it i'm sure. I can't think of one reason why I'd watch a memorial service for someone I disliked or abhorred.
Talk about going out of your way to be offended/disgusted.

The point of my thread wasn't about his alleged past. I'm not getting into that again. My views are known, so what's the point going on about it.

Rather it was about how Jackson is being protrayed now. The way Sharpton was going on was way over the top, even you must agree with that. Anyway, at that point I switched over.

No one is asking about your views on his past. Why would you watch a memorial service for someone you disliked so vehemently, someone who sickened you so much?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

milltown row

but do you not think stew, that the families would have got justice and way more Compo had they went through with the trial?  

plenty of rich guys out there put in jail every week, cant use money as a reason all the time, most people don't 'get away with murder'

you me and the rest will never know the truth. what would your views be if one of these kids came on and said nothing happened? 'my parents made me go to his house and they made me lie just so we could get money'