Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Kick it in high]

Its starting to look like Eskra and Drumragh could be in a dog fight to stay up. Who would have predicted that in Div 3?

[Goals_Will_Come]

Not to read into it too much but interesting start to the reserve league

Dungannn Edendork and Ardboe all on 1 win with galbally clonoe and coalisland taking up 3 out of the top 6 spots

 is this a hint of the teams that are ready for the start of the senior league ?

You would hope Galbally, Clonoe and Coalisland are up for it at the start of the senior league, a bad start for any of them and the chances of them staying up drop very quickly.

[Sean Og Patriots]

I would suggest Greencastle will struggle this year, not going well by all reports. Few in-house issues. Seems to always be a problem in Greencastle which is a pity considering their ability.

[Kick it in high]

I would suggest Greencastle will struggle this year, not going well by all reports. Few in-house issues. Seems to always be a problem in Greencastle which is a pity considering their ability.

Could you elaborate Sean I havent heard anything out of Greencastle this year?
 

[GaelTheGael]

Intermediate can be split in two: Promotion chasers & Relegation Candidates.

Promotion chasers: Pomeroy, Moy, Gortin, Derrylaughan, Beragh, Greencastle, Owen Roes, Rock.
Relegation Candidates: Killeeshil, Cookstown, Clogher, Aghaloo, Drumquin, Naomh Eoghan, Kildress, Aghyaran.

[RouskyRanger]

Intermediate can be split in two: Promotion chasers & Relegation Candidates.

Promotion chasers: Pomeroy, Moy, Gortin, Derrylaughan, Beragh, Greencastle, Owen Roes, Rock.
Relegation Candidates: Killeeshil, Cookstown, Clogher, Aghaloo, Drumquin, Naomh Eoghan, Kildress, Aghyaran.

Naomh Eoghan had a great start last year beating a few of the big boys from what i remember before getting a load of injuries. They may be looking to push on this year, surely that soccer lad will play more this year you'd think. Wheres the high opinion of beragh coming from? Our lads won't be making any serious push for promotion either. This first weekend will give a good tell with the double fixture

[DouglasBridgeExile]

Predictions for the weekend

Thursday

Errigal - KC - Oat milk flat whites by 2
Omagh - Clonoe - Loser gets relegated, omagh by 2
Eglish - edendork - County men the issue, eglish by 1
ardboe - dromore - Tummery by 5
trillick - donaghmore - Draw
dungannon - galbally - Clarkes to start off to a flyer
lough - coalisland - county men the issue, lough by 9

Pomeroy - derrylaughan - Pomeroy to stamp out derrylaughans hopes before they start
Greencastle - Naomh eoghan - Only place colder than Garvaghy, Naomh eoghan by 4
Moy - aghyaran - donegal outfit to hit 8 two pointers and get beat by 3
rock - clogher - clogher still drunk, rock by 6
beragh - kileeshil - Beragh to have the game won at half time
Drumquin - kildress - Whos the real wolfe tone? kildress by 5
Gortin - cookstown - cookstown for sunbeds, gortin for football

[GaaGPT]

Errigal - KC
Omagh - Clonoe
Eglish - edendork
ardboe - dromore
trillick - donaghmore
dungannon - galbally
lough - coalisland

Pomeroy - derrylaughan
Greencastle - Naomh eoghan
Moy - aghyaran
rock - clogher
beragh - kileeshil
Drumquin - kildress
Gortin - cookstown

[In hiding]

Senior League games on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sunday, Monday.

Not great for player welfare but great for getting out of the house

[snowy2hunt]

Errigal - KC
Omagh - Clonoe
Eglish - edendork
ardboe - dromore
trillick - donaghmore
dungannon - galbally
lough - coalisland

Pomeroy - derrylaughan
Greencastle - Naomh eoghan
Moy - aghyaran
rock - clogher
beragh - kileeshil
Drumquin - kildress
Gortin - cookstown

[Topoftheworld]

Errigal - KC
Omagh - Clonoe
Eglish - edendork
ardboe - dromore
trillick - donaghmore
dungannon - galbally
lough - coalisland

Pomeroy - derrylaughan
Greencastle - Naomh eoghan
Moy - aghyaran
rock - clogher
beragh - kileeshil
Drumquin - kildress
Gortin - cookstown

[WesternBaller]

Errigal - KC
Omagh - Clonoe
Eglish - Edendork
ardboe - dromore
Trillick - Donaghmore
Dungannon - Galbally
Lough - Coalisland

Pomeroy - Derrylaughan
Greencastle - Naomh eoghan
Moy - Aghyaran
Rock - Clogher
Beragh - Kileeshil
Drumquin - Kildress
Gortin - Cookstown

[thebigfullforward]

Errigal - KC
Omagh - Clonoe
Eglish - Edendork
ardboe - dromore
Trillick - Donaghmore - draw
Dungannon - Galbally
Lough - Coalisland

Pomeroy - Derrylaughan
Greencastle - Naomh eoghan
Moy - Aghyaran
Rock - Clogher - draw
Beragh - Kileeshil
Drumquin - Kildress
Gortin - Cookstown

[HalfBack7]

Email from the CCC on 3rd June. Clann na nGael senior team fielding 13 a side, and clubs just expected to go with it. Just another change to the league that has been forced on junior clubs without discussion or a vote, just like the division 3 split to 3 and 3A.

A few years back there was a proposal for Tyrone to be split into 4 even division of 12 teams. This went to a vote and clubs said no.
Then a year later they implement the division 3 split without any discussion or vote because who cares about junior football.

This year there was a proposal to alter the league points system, this was again discussed and voted down.
Now we have a 13 aside game forced onto junior clubs without discussion or a vote.

It seems that matters that effect Division 1 and 2 clubs are discussed and voted on, but matters which only effect junior clubs? Who cares, just change it and they can just accept it.


A chara

It has been made known to the CCC that at least one Club in Division 3A, due to low player numbers, may, going forward, find themselves in  a position  where they can only field at 13-a-side.

In order to facilitate the players available and to sustain the future of this Club, we ask that you all comply with the situation on match days and therefore also field at 13-a-side if the situation arises.

We will be making our Referees aware of the situation meaning everyone will be informed and there will be no objections accepted.

We appreciate your cooperation on this as it is important that we all do what we can for the better of all our Clubs going forward.

Is mise le meas

Mícheáilín Nic an Choiligh

[HalfBack7]

Email from the CCC on 3rd June. Clann na nGael senior team fielding 13 a side, and clubs just expected to go with it. Just another change to the league that has been forced on junior clubs without discussion or a vote, just like the division 3 split to 3 and 3A.

A few years back there was a proposal for Tyrone to be split into 4 even division of 12 teams. This went to a vote and clubs said no.
Then a year later they implement the division 3 split without any discussion or vote because who cares about junior football.

This year there was a proposal to alter the league points system, this was again discussed and voted down.
Now we have a 13 aside game forced onto junior clubs without discussion or a vote.

It seems that matters that effect Division 1 and 2 clubs are discussed and voted on, but matters which only effect junior clubs? Who cares, just change it and they can just accept it.


A chara

It has been made known to the CCC that at least one Club in Division 3A, due to low player numbers, may, going forward, find themselves in  a position  where they can only field at 13-a-side.

In order to facilitate the players available and to sustain the future of this Club, we ask that you all comply with the situation on match days and therefore also field at 13-a-side if the situation arises.

We will be making our Referees aware of the situation meaning everyone will be informed and there will be no objections accepted.

We appreciate your cooperation on this as it is important that we all do what we can for the better of all our Clubs going forward.

Is mise le meas

Mícheáilín Nic an Choiligh

Response from Tattyreagh club to said email.


A Chara
 
We refer to your email sent by the CCC to our club secretary last night  Wednesday 3rd June at 21.31pm, to advise us that an unnamed club in division 3A may only be able to field 13 players in future senior games and that you have without consultation to any other club in that league agreed that this is ok and must be accepted with a pre warning that no objections will be considered.
 
We reject this advice and register an immediate objection to challenge it and demand a hearing and response before any of this Friday nights planned fixtures take place. We also challenge the short notice provided in this matter i.e. less than 48 hours before the next official fixture.
 
We now have a panel of 30 plus players and a management team preparing for a double fixture weekend of games not knowing if it will be against a team fielding either 13 or 15 players. To our knowledge to date no senior adult team across any of the Tyrone leagues has ever been forced to agree to play a 13 aside game at senior level. Your email basically gives 48 hours' notice of this change and as any reasonable person would expect our coaches and players have not had the opportunity to prepare for this unprecedented scenario in even one training session. Your new dictate is both unfair and disrespectful to the players and managers of the teams that will be directly affected by it.
 
We also question the rules that will govern a 13-sided game e.g. will the normal 4 players back rule stand or given that there will be 4 less players on the pitch will this be changed, again our players and coaches have not been afforded any time to prepare for this new scenario.  We have asked our club referees, and they confirm that their pre-season training and courses did not cover any such scenario.
 
You are already aware that our club has been very critical of the changes forced upon us by splitting the old division 3 league into an 8-team division 3 and an 11-team division 3A. The 3A league has been set up to pander to the larger clubs and allow them to have a 3rd team with no requirement to enter a reserve team, none of the junior clubs were consulted properly about these changes and with the 2nd year underway it is clear that the new format is not working and needs to be revisited with all the junior clubs properly involved and consulted about what happens going forward.
 
This latest dictate around 13-sided games is the final straw and alongside virtually no reserve football is going to cause long term damage to small but viable clubs like our own. We have a panel of 30-37 senior players and good numbers of youth players filtering into this panel in the years ahead. It is our county boards responsibility to make sure that these young gaels are included in a format and league that will provide them with the opportunity to play football regularly throughout the season just like the players in Division 1,2&3.
 
It is worth pointing out to the CCC the reality of the situation on the ground, 37 different players played some part in our reserve and senior games last weekend against Castlederg however if we happen to be playing this unnamed club this Friday night only 13 of those players will start that game with only another 3 or 4 playing a role as used substitutes with at least 20 to 21 players getting no football. In addition to this our next 3 games are against teams that do not have a reserve team resulting in those 20 to 21 players not playing any part in any of 4 consecutive games. This is a bigger threat to our club's sustainability than any demographic issues and it is an issue man made by the Tyrone CCC and the changes they have forced on clubs by splitting the league to accommodate the minority.
 
We pay at least the same level of fees if indeed not more as clubs like Errigal Ciaran, Donaghmore, Cookstown and Omagh but we seem to be at the back of the queue when it comes to fair and equitable treatment and value for money. We have been in discussions with 4 other division 3A clubs as recently as last night and they are equally as unhappy with the current situation and we would ask that rather than just try and enforce this on clubs to their long term detriment a proper discussion involving all the junior clubs is initiated and a long term acceptable solution is found.
 
We hope that some line in some regulation that isn't quite clear is not used in any "dear john" response to ignore our genuine concerns because we are now at the stage that this matter needs a proper solution and the TCB challenged if they continue to ignore our justifiable concerns. If the status quo is maintained against our will, we must challenge the decision makers to both the Ulster Council and Croke Park and the wider GAA community using whatever other outlets are available to us, as your decisions to protect the minority are now directly harming other clubs long term future .
 
We are now in a situation where our young club gaels are clearly being discriminated against versus players in other clubs and going for multiple weeks without the opportunity to play games and this may result in them being lost to the GAA forever if a solution or change is not made. This format is a race to the bottom and must be reviewed again, with the clubs being affected by your decisions involved properly in a finding a workable and sustainable solution not just dictated to by a small internal county committee which includes some vested interests. We want answers about who is driving this agenda to understand if there are alternative objectives at play which may benefit bigger clubs in the long term. We are weary of being dictated to by committees led by people with little knowledge of how small clubs operate, the challenges they face and how important a role they play in their communities.
 
We provided the county with a chairman for 5 years who showed leadership and put all clubs not just the larger ones at the centre of the Tyrone GAA during his term. We now expect this current board to do the same and you will probably ascertain from this email that we have decided to coin a phrase "enough is enough"  and we are going to allocate some considerable time and effort highlighting these issues to all gaels both in Tyrone and outside Tyrone including penning a detailed letter to Jarlath Burns requesting a hearing with him to advise and discuss with him our issues and seek help from him on how we should go about trying to find a solution.
 
We are also exploring the idea of association with leagues in other counties in an attempt to get football for all our players, as at present the Tyrone county board is not meeting this need. We believe that this issue will gain considerable interest and momentum among the wider community both inside and outside our county and it needs to be highlighted if it is ignored anymore.
 
We have suggestions and solutions to all the above problems, but we need a forum organised by yourselves alongside a willingness to listen to bring these forward for consensus, agreement, and action.
 
We would appreciate a response before Friday night's game.
 
 
Regards
 
 
Secretary and Committee – Tattyreagh St Patrick Mens and Ladies football and camogie club.