Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, November 09, 2006, 10:54:03 PM

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tiempo

Last years last gasp defeat to Killyclogher still lingers perhaps, they'd be hopeful of passage to the second round of the championship which is a completely different season to league, with everyone back they might have a kick in them, many of the mainstays of the 2 recent O'Neill cup wins will be finishing up the next few years, bit of a Coalisland-Clonoe type issue if the next crop aren't as driven

ClubScene13

Youth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

Truthsayer

Derrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

DaleCooper

#50583
Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 29, 2025, 01:43:16 PMYouth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

Quote from: Truthsayer on July 29, 2025, 06:24:05 PMDerrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

By what metric does a club decide its worth paying some guy 27k a year, if not titles?

Ouroborous

Truthsayer

Quote from: DaleCooper on July 29, 2025, 06:42:40 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 29, 2025, 01:43:16 PMYouth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

Quote from: Truthsayer on July 29, 2025, 06:24:05 PMDerrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

By what metric does a club decide its worth paying some guy 27k a year, if not titles?

Oroborous
Had to look that up. Very good.. and appropriate

Duine Inteacht Eile

#50585
A much better use of funds than paying a long line of senior managers to take scrap IMO. That's not directed at Derrylaughan in particular btw but the amount of clubs who are throwing money at men to take teams who are going nowhere is ridiculous, especially when they are doing nothing at juvenile.

I imagine a big part of this role would be to improve numbers & standard of juvenile football so that in 10 years time they might have a team at senior that somebody could do something with. That might not mean that Derrylaughan are winning a pile of underage titles btw.

They amalgamate at underage? Being able to field teams by themselves would be a good starting point I think.

BigGreenField

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 29, 2025, 07:49:35 PMA much better use of funds than paying a long line of senior managers to take scrap IMO. That's not directed at Derrylaughan in particular btw but the amount of clubs who are throwing money at men to take teams who are going nowhere is ridiculous, especially when they are doing nothing at juvenile.

I imagine a big part of this role would be to improve numbers & standard of juvenile football so that in 10 years time they might have a team at senior that somebody could do something with. That might not mean that Derrylaughan are winning a pile of underage titles btw.

They amalgamate at underage? Being able to field teams by themselves would be a good starting point I think.

Yup, Dublins talent didn't pick it up off the ground

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/a-county-chairman-bertie-ahern-and-a-grand-plan-the-inside-story-of-how-gaelic-football-changed-forever/38450469.html

Build numbers, build culture, retention, cream will rise. Rinse and repeat.

UtilityMan

Great to get the Championship dates for the business end of the season. Plenty of league football still to be played yet with 6/7 games remaining in Division 1 and 2.

Any early predictions for the drop?

2ndstringsub

Quote from: DaleCooper on July 29, 2025, 06:42:40 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 29, 2025, 01:43:16 PMYouth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

Quote from: Truthsayer on July 29, 2025, 06:24:05 PMDerrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

By what metric does a club decide its worth paying some guy 27k a year, if not titles?

Ouroborous

Not sure what the ouroborous remark means here to be honest. perhaps showing my own density. Do you think its not worth paying or something else?

2ndstringsub

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 29, 2025, 07:49:35 PMA much better use of funds than paying a long line of senior managers to take scrap IMO. That's not directed at Derrylaughan in particular btw but the amount of clubs who are throwing money at men to take teams who are going nowhere is ridiculous, especially when they are doing nothing at juvenile.

I imagine a big part of this role would be to improve numbers & standard of juvenile football so that in 10 years time they might have a team at senior that somebody could do something with. That might not mean that Derrylaughan are winning a pile of underage titles btw.

They amalgamate at underage? Being able to field teams by themselves would be a good starting point I think.

I believe at present all age groups bar 1 they can field their own team with subs but a freak year with 1 lad and 2-3 classes worth of girls had forced their hand and jointed them to neighbouring Derrytresk who insisted all competitive age groups or none at all.

This has resulted in a couple of different scenarios playing out. all teams have an average of 2-3 Derrytresk players but mean Derrylaughan players are exposed to a higher standard because of a full panel of quality players. but also means that more Derrytresk players are sitting on the bench watching on than ever before.(has to be a drawback for them)

This will likely finish in a Gortin like scenario from the start of the year. wont last forever and only 1 club benefitting is what I'm hearing.

DaleCooper

Quote from: 2ndstringsub on July 30, 2025, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 29, 2025, 06:42:40 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 29, 2025, 01:43:16 PMYouth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

Quote from: Truthsayer on July 29, 2025, 06:24:05 PMDerrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

By what metric does a club decide its worth paying some guy 27k a year, if not titles?

Ouroborous

Not sure what the ouroborous remark means here to be honest. perhaps showing my own density. Do you think its not worth paying or something else?

Snake eating its own tail

GAA is allegedly a volunteer lead organisation.

GAA wants a good game thats marketable

Clubs pay money they take from local communities and volunteers to pay a professional coach.

Coach is expected to produce verified results, pressure to show results = underage trophies.

Unless they're doing a detailed skills audit every so often to demonstrate how individuals are progressing.

TheDergView

Hearing today Kieran McGeary has plans to move to Kileeshil to live next year. Strong chance he will transfer to them too is the word, from a Pomeroy man's mouth

GaaGPT

County player will not be joining a junior team next year

Grace Murphy

See Carrickmore starting the Hyrox..... must have given up on the ONeill cup been that long since they seen one. 🤣

Here mucker they will Soon be the Cavan of Tyrone Club Football.

 ;D  ;D

GaaGPT

Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 08:18:59 AM
Quote from: GaaGPT on July 30, 2025, 10:58:47 PMCounty player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

I am not saying a junior club player cant play county but i know a county player is going to move from a potential still a senor club to junior.