Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[square_ball]

Would clubs play without county players?

I think as a (former) player I'd prefer the club first then county. Get everything cleared up by July and players can enjoy a clear couple of months break.

[inowbest]

Would be nice to see the club season run without interruptions from start to finish. League all played and then the championship. Playing from March through to June/July would be more welcome than finishing a season in November. Think this has potential.

So do we just do away with the provincial and all Ireland club competitions? The competitions which give the Vast majority of players their only chance of playing that level? And do you think that counties will allow clubs uninterrupted access to their players if the county season starting after? If the club season goes 1st it will be a disaster and will cause a serious split in the organisation.

Think you are over reacting a bit there to say it will be a disaster and split the organisation. We've been crying for years to get a regular run of fixtures for club players and a league finished before the winter and leagues finished before the championship and so on. This split season with club starting at the end of Feb allows for those things to happen. No starred games, no 6 week barren no fixture spells, you get a Spring league and summer championship.
Things like provincial club need addressed and I'm sure they will be, this in my opinion anyway is good news for the club scene.

Totally agree here 100%
For years we have been demanding a split season, at least club players can now plan a life outside of football instead of dragging it from starting pre season in Feb and ending in November with mutiple hot summer weekends twiddling their thumbs

I dont see how you think Club season going 1st will be a disaster. Why?? It should be 98% of the playing majority going 1st.
The county scene can play Autumn / Winter nights as they have the facilities available. And look at the joy expressed by many that a hi profile GAA game in these dark evenings is a joy and brightens up the long days

Yes provincial club needs addressed, but is it not better to plan for some club football and wait a year or 2 on this. Im sure it will come back in time

All of this is obviously Covid dependant

Club going first means that the season for 99% of Players will be over by July.

I agree with the split season however County should be first followed by Club. That allows Club leagues to run (without County players) in the first half of the year and then a free run at the Championship in the second half.

So people looking clubs to go first, start Feb - June? So have 98% of the GAA playing population out training in Nov/ Dec preparing for their leagues that start in the crap weather in Feb/ March? How many games would be called off due to unplayable pitches? How many challenge games or proper trainings could teams get in before their leagues start? Then if inter county is starting in July, do you think county managers aren't going to be taking players for training from April/ May time. We saw it in Armagh this year, players playing three league games with their clubs then being taken away to the county.

Would it not be better having the 5% of the playing population out training in their county centres in Nov/ Dec, playing the League in Jan/ Feb and when they are out of the championship players are returning to their clubs, who have started to train without their county men. Would mean a great break for club players over the winter months and returning to training round March or April.

I just cant understand how anyone seeing the club going first is a good thing? Because of holidays? Is that the reason?

[Take_her_back_ref]

Doesn't really matter whether people think it's better for club to go first or county. Ultimately it'll come down to a financial decision. Croke Park has been placed under huge pressure with the way this season has panned out. If it comes to the point that club has to go first to raise the funds then so be it.

[Norf Tyrone]

Have they not said that 2022 it'll be County first then Club in July. If Club starts first this year players will go 12 months without football. 

In addition whereas County grounds are heavily funded so that pitches are good in January, at Club level not so much. There will either be a lot of postponements OR Clubs having higher pitch costs.

[The Trap]

This is a massive decision that's about to made.......if they decide to go club first in 2021 I dont see how they change from that going forward. It would mean a 12 month break of no club football to change it!
I think it has to be county first all the time but we shall see as money talks.

[An Watcher]

Love to see the clubs given a chance first. So much more entertaining than the drivel served up by County teams

[sam03/05]

2 separate seasons is all that matters - the club and county must play at different times.
Clubs should go first - then County in July ( as quite simply it is more high profile and generates the income - so it should be played at best time of year.
Also who says Ulster club etc has to be scrapped? - could it go again after into county - in Sept/ Oct?
In its more or less traditional spot - would only be a few players in each county playing.

So maybe - Feb - June (Club)
July - sept/ Oct inter county
Oct/ Nov - Ulster club / AI club

Also this area that clubs need a 2 month preseason is utter nonsense - 4 weeks would be more than enough. The 2 months / 12 weeks - is just so the manager merry go round can get extra money from taking clubs. Look at last year, one of the best seasons ever in Tyrone and there was no big 2 month preseason build up.

[GetOverTheBar]

2 separate seasons is all that matters - the club and county must play at different times.
Clubs should go first - then County in July ( as quite simply it is more high profile and generates the income - so it should be played at best time of year.
Also who says Ulster club etc has to be scrapped? - could it go again after into county - in Sept/ Oct?
In its more or less traditional spot - would only be a few players in each county playing.

So maybe - Feb - June (Club)
July - sept/ Oct inter county
Oct/ Nov - Ulster club / AI club

Also this area that clubs need a 2 month preseason is utter nonsense - 4 weeks would be more than enough. The 2 months / 12 weeks - is just so the manager merry go round can get extra money from taking clubs. Look at last year, one of the best seasons ever in Tyrone and there was no big 2 month preseason build up.

Wouldn't say that now.

[on the sideline]

Brendan Trainor in with Augher this year. Don't know if as the main man or part of a management team. Been assistant to Harbinson with Antrim this past couple of years.

There can't be many teams still waiting to appoint management can there?

[on the sideline]

Paddy Campbell, former Donegal player, now in at Owen Roes.

[sam03/05]

2 separate seasons is all that matters - the club and county must play at different times.
Clubs should go first - then County in July ( as quite simply it is more high profile and generates the income - so it should be played at best time of year.
Also who says Ulster club etc has to be scrapped? - could it go again after into county - in Sept/ Oct?
In its more or less traditional spot - would only be a few players in each county playing.

So maybe - Feb - June (Club)
July - sept/ Oct inter county
Oct/ Nov - Ulster club / AI club

Also this area that clubs need a 2 month preseason is utter nonsense - 4 weeks would be more than enough. The 2 months / 12 weeks - is just so the manager merry go round can get extra money from taking clubs. Look at last year, one of the best seasons ever in Tyrone and there was no big 2 month preseason build up.

Wouldn't say that now.

Don't remember a better championship in Tyrone
Every game was too quality and there was no need for a 2/3 month preseason - 4 weeks more than enough

[The Trap]

If club season ends in june some teams will be out of their championship in may and not play another game for 9 months.....yea that sounds great !

[Angelo]

If club season ends in june some teams will be out of their championship in may and not play another game for 9 months.....yea that sounds great !

One season though.

Plenty of options for young fellas to go out and enjoy themselves after 18 months being locked up in their house.

[The Trap]

One season Angelo?
Why what changes in 2022?

[GetOverTheBar]

2 separate seasons is all that matters - the club and county must play at different times.
Clubs should go first - then County in July ( as quite simply it is more high profile and generates the income - so it should be played at best time of year.
Also who says Ulster club etc has to be scrapped? - could it go again after into county - in Sept/ Oct?
In its more or less traditional spot - would only be a few players in each county playing.

So maybe - Feb - June (Club)
July - sept/ Oct inter county
Oct/ Nov - Ulster club / AI club

Also this area that clubs need a 2 month preseason is utter nonsense - 4 weeks would be more than enough. The 2 months / 12 weeks - is just so the manager merry go round can get extra money from taking clubs. Look at last year, one of the best seasons ever in Tyrone and there was no big 2 month preseason build up.

Wouldn't say that now.

Don't remember a better championship in Tyrone
Every game was too quality and there was no need for a 2/3 month preseason - 4 weeks more than enough

No argument on the quality of the Championship, but if you think teams weren't breaking the training ban you are not correct. The fact there were quite a number of contests that went into ET and right down to the wire wasn't luck, it was due to the fact teams were so fit.

Teams are training and breaking regulations right now. Take a trip to MUSA tonight, or any lighted area and you'll see a team training.

If you think 4 weeks is enough to train for a club championship you are dead wrong and shows you haven't ever kicked a ball. The reason the club championship in Tyrone last year was so good I would say is because clubs had access to their whole playing squad, the whole season.