Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[an léirmheastóir]

Damian Cassidy has surly underachieved with Clonoe given the talent at his disposal and the wage he lifts.

2 senior championships 2 senior leagues 1 under 21 and ulster under 21 in 8 seasons plus several reserve champions..... so maybe or maybe not who knows.....

Did he manage all those teams u21 and reserve too

Under 21's yes and at least one of the reserve wins

Spoke with a Clonoe man today. He says the Reserve Wins were all with different club managers in charge and since Cassidy has taken more involvement, they haven't gotten close past 3 years

His opinion was Cassidy has cost more Championships than he has won. Reckons a better manager could have won more with the talent the club HAD, unfortunately a fair share of those on the team last night are at the end of their careers. Im not sure but he says Cassidy has been there 9 years!! Surely time for a fresh start, especially with a lot of rebuilding needed.

To comment on Cassidys manors at games, we were behind him in Carrickmore and Edendork and we only ever heard him shout at the Ref, not any of his players, this also goes for instructions onto the pitch

I have to say a lot of this is true but what also is true is the way he has spoken to his players he belittles them I am lead to believe he has had no confidence from his team all year only for Niall being with him. The team voted overwhelmingly against him last year 27 to 3 for him to go only their committee decided differently. This might not be all truth and just men hurting after a game they feel they should have won. Tothetop would know he is rightly up in the club.

[TopOfTheRight13]

To the top is of the opinion only for Cassidy.. He could be one of the committee member.. Cassidy is a dinosaur in terms of football.. His man management skills are the worst because he has got such a high opinion of himself.. The man likes to reminisce about past glories particularly 2008..if you were apart of 08 panel you get a by pass onto the field.. He takes credit for win and blames players for losses.. He goes quiet when games are slipping away but if your beating a team on sideline he is very animated.. Clonoe folk think he's the reason for the two championship win.. Nothing to do with the players involved

[under the bar]

Damian Cassidy has surly underachieved with Clonoe given the talent at his disposal and the wage he lifts.

2 senior championships 2 senior leagues 1 under 21 and ulster under 21 in 8 seasons plus several reserve champions..... so maybe or maybe not who knows.....

So what did that team win before Cassidy arrived?

[Under Lights]

The club managerial merry go round is in full effect. Cassidy will more than likely go, Dromore managers may go too, will McGuigan stay with Ardboe? What about McCallan in carrickmore? heard from a few carrickmore ones that it was the young fella on the management that did most of the tactical stuff for the championship games, cant remember his name but they seemed pretty keen on him. Coaisland managers already away is the rumours but surely not, are they not in the league semis?
Anyway im Really looking forward to this weeks game. Pomeroy will be a big test for us and after our performance last week against Carrickmore we need to improve but I think we will. The quick turn around for Pomeroy should give us an advantage hopefully but it wont b easy. Was in Armagh the other night, anyone know if big loughran will be fit for the game? would be a big loss to them if not.

They will probably just get rid of another coach instead.

[skeog]

Rumour that Dominic could be on his way back now that he is a free agent to Carmen.

[tothetop03]

I have not been on the committee for a good few years now..... This is my honest assessment....

In 2006 with a lot of new faces on our team we got relegated from 1a to 1b winning only 4 matches we as a club decided to go outside for a manager for the first time in 5/6 years as the last outside manager did not work for us  and moved on mid season.... we got john morrison in 2007...in which we had a season in which was not plain sailing as John Morrison set out to sort out some issues that our club thought needed sorted noses where put out of joint along the way, we beat Carrickmore in the first round of the championship and then lost to Donaghmore, Morrision continued to sort out a mess for the reminder of 2007 season and we got promoted to senior div 1 for 2008 as their was no 1a or 1b.... Damian Cassidy then was brought in and he suited what we needed at this time we won championship 2008 he then left for Derry we got knocked out first round the next years by Trillick and then Coalisland....2011 he came back we got beaten by Dromore by 1 point in the county final.....We lost v Omagh 2012 by 1 point after a replay...We won Championship 2013...2014 we got beat by dromore after being 7/8 in front....THIS IS IN MY OPINION CASSIDY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWAY....Our club decided to keep faith defeats by Coalisland 2015/16 and pomeroy in 2017 sums up our championship in his time with us.....

In our 100 year history we have produced only 2 set of teams that could sustain long period of competitive runs of competing for Senior Championships...1958-1965 and 2007- to today..... all the rest where between first round exits every year  and periods of Intermediate football.... So we may have underachieved who knows...what i do know is in the last 10/12 years Tyrone football has been at its most competitive and most open ever championship at Senior level in this County,so winning 2 senior championships is not too bad...we have had good times in our club with under 21 wins and reserve wins..last minute goals replays and some serious good days also some bad ones....in the 1970's and 80's i could never have honestly thought i would never have seen those heights again that we have had in the last 10 years....Damian Cassidy and others have been part.... i have had nephews and cousins dropped of the team in this period but i am trying to be fair...lots of people make judgement at time for reasons which are maybe close to their heart in every club i met Ardboe Coalisland Derrytresk men all this week blaming management...Ardboe and Coalisland are both behind us in the Roll of Honour in the "Cassidy era" and am sure they both will continue to try and cure that in the next few years...... I support the Rahillys not who is managing them.... Every club in the top 7 in Tyrone have all underachieved!!!!!

[tothetop03]

I have not been on the committee for a good few years now..... This is my honest assessment....

In 2006 with a lot of new faces on our team we got relegated from 1a to 1b winning only 4 matches we as a club decided to go outside for a manager for the first time in 5/6 years as the last outside manager did not work for us  and moved on mid season.... we got john morrison in 2007...in which we had a season in which was not plain sailing as John Morrison set out to sort out some issues that our club thought needed sorted noses where put out of joint along the way, we beat Carrickmore in the first round of the championship and then lost to Donaghmore, Morrision continued to sort out a mess for the reminder of 2007 season and we got promoted to senior div 1 for 2008 as their was no 1a or 1b.... Damian Cassidy then was brought in and he suited what we needed at this time we won championship 2008 he then left for Derry we got knocked out first round the next years by Trillick and then Coalisland....2011 he came back we got beaten by Dromore by 1 point in the county final.....We lost v Omagh 2012 by 1 point after a replay...We won Championship 2013...2014 we got beat by dromore after being 7/8 in front....THIS IS IN MY OPINION CASSIDY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWAY....Our club decided to keep faith defeats by Coalisland 2015/16 and pomeroy in 2017 sums up our championship in his time with us.....

In our 100 year history we have produced only 2 set of teams that could sustain long period of competitive runs of competing for Senior Championships...1958-1965 and 2007- to today..... all the rest where between first round exits every year  and periods of Intermediate football.... So we may have underachieved who knows...what i do know is in the last 10/12 years Tyrone football has been at its most competitive and most open ever championship at Senior level in this County,so winning 2 senior championships is not too bad...we have had good times in our club with under 21 wins and reserve wins..last minute goals replays and some serious good days also some bad ones....in the 1970's and 80's i could never have honestly thought i would never have seen those heights again that we have had in the last 10 years....Damian Cassidy and others have been part of this wether some of you like it or not.... i have had nephews and cousins dropped of the team in this period but i am trying to be fair...lots of people make judgement at time for reasons which are maybe close to their heart in every club i met Ardboe Coalisland Derrytresk men all this week blaming management...Ardboe and Coalisland are both behind us in the Roll of Honour in the "Cassidy era" and am sure they both will continue to try and cure that in the next few years...... I support the Rahillys not who is managing them.... Every club in the top 7 in Tyrone have all underachieved!!!!!

[vallankumous]

. Every club in the top 7 in Tyrone have all underachieved!!!!!

Couldn't agree more.

[Under Lights]

. Every club in the top 7 in Tyrone have all underachieved!!!!!

Couldn't agree more.

But not all paying a man top dollar.
That's the real point.

[tothetop03]

. Every club in the top 7 in Tyrone have all underachieved!!!!!

Couldn't agree more.

But not all paying a man top dollar.
That's the real point.

7/8 teams paying dollar surely....

[giveherlong]

Some people on here very sore on Clonoe. Probably out of jealousy
what Clonoe have achieved under Damian Cassidy would be the envy of nearly every other club in Tyrone. If you want to talk about underachievers look at Ardboe and the successful minor teams and county players they have produced or Errigal (on numbers alone). Cassidy certainly had the measure of Errigal under his tenure. Dromore should and could have added another ONeill cup in the past 4 years but that's championship football and luck of the draw. A big hitter taken out by another big gun opens the thing up for a run to semis for other clubs. Errigal are well placed this year in that respect avoiding Killyclogher, FIanna, Dromore, Clonoe and Omagh to date.

[Club boi]

. Every club in the top 7 in Tyrone have all underachieved!!!!!

Couldn't agree more.

But not all paying a man top dollar.
That's the real point.

7/8 teams paying dollar surely....

I was going to list the teams "I" believe/have heard are paying their management but it would take all day. Much easier to list who isnt

Fire Away ............

[inowbest]

Rumour that Dominic could be on his way back now that he is a free agent to Carmen.

Is Dom away? I know that McElholm is now with Bonner in Donegal but hadn't heard Corrigan was away. That's a great job for John McElholm too and well deserved. Did very well with KC for the years he was there.

[Moortown Spuds]

. Every club in the top 7 in Tyrone have all underachieved!!!!!

Couldn't agree more.

Trillick??
But not all paying a man top dollar.
That's the real point.

7/8 teams paying dollar surely....

I was going to list the teams "I" believe/have heard are paying their management but it would take all day. Much easier to list who isnt

Fire Away ............

I know of one club who are paying their own club man. Its to be expected that outside managers are getting compensated.

[tothetop03]

. Every club in the top 7 in Tyrone have all underachieved!!!!!

Couldn't agree more.

Trillick??
But not all paying a man top dollar.
That's the real point.

7/8 teams paying dollar surely....

I was going to list the teams "I" believe/have heard are paying their management but it would take all day. Much easier to list who isnt

Fire Away ............

I know of one club who are paying their own club man. Its to be expected that outside managers are getting compensated.

In this county??