Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Wee Roddy]

Carrickmore have played 3 games this year.
Pomeroy had 2 sweepers
Killyclogher set up very defensively and Strabane parked the bus. It is more prevalent than you think

[Tyroneforsam]

Carrickmore have played 3 games this year.
Pomeroy had 2 sweepers
Killyclogher set up very defensively and Strabane parked the bus. It is more prevalent than you think

Carmen also set up with 2 sweepers against us, what's your point. Carmen are a defensively minded team.

[The Golden Years]

Carrickmore have played 3 games this year.
Pomeroy had 2 sweepers
Killyclogher set up very defensively and Strabane parked the bus. It is more prevalent than you think

Carmen also set up with 2 sweepers against us, what's your point. Carmen are a defensively minded team.

We didn't set up with 2 sweepers. There is a difference between when our half backs sit in front of our fullback line because there the half forwards they are marking are sitting in front of their fullback line. Our setup was determined by our opponents tactics. Not once this year has carrickmore set out to bring forwards back to permanently sit in front of their fullback line

[leenie]

Div 1 a lot more defensive than div 2

Golden years what's your prediction for carmen the year ?

[southtyronegael]

watched omagh v clonoe in champ first round last year and was shocked by how negative and defensive both were. short kick outs and running game from both teams. 3 years previous both team played great attacking football and won county titles doing so. same players and management on both sides but style of play had changed fundamentally. and not for the better.

[The Golden Years]

Div 1 a lot more defensive than div 2

Golden years what's your prediction for carmen the year ?

i honestly think if Brendan McLaughlin comes home when he says he is and mark Donnelly continues his good form then we will be there or there abouts. Seamus Seams to have the lads back enjoying their football and it's great to see some of last years minor team getting game time. My concerns would be our lack of ability to break a packed defense but hopefully this something they are working at in training and come the business end of the season with will have a solution.

[Club boi]

watched omagh v clonoe in champ first round last year and was shocked by how negative and defensive both were. short kick outs and running game from both teams. 3 years previous both team played great attacking football and won county titles doing so. same players and management on both sides but style of play had changed fundamentally. and not for the better.

This could easily be said about most teams setting up now but 100% agree. Defensive set ups don't suit these 2 teams in particular and both have failed to produce the same form since retracting into a defensive shell. If poster above is correct and Clonoe went 15 on 15 last week and demolished Killyclogher then why don't they go out more often like this?? Question Clonoe Posters!!

[tothetop03]

watched omagh v clonoe in champ first round last year and was shocked by how negative and defensive both were. short kick outs and running game from both teams. 3 years previous both team played great attacking football and won county titles doing so. same players and management on both sides but style of play had changed fundamentally. and not for the better.

This could easily be said about most teams setting up now but 100% agree. Defensive set ups don't suit these 2 teams in particular and both have failed to produce the same form since retracting into a defensive shell. If poster above is correct and Clonoe went 15 on 15 last week and demolished Killyclogher then why don't they go out more often like this?? Question Clonoe Posters!!

Done it the last 2 games hope it continues win loose or draw... but i suppose the opposition dictate sometimes how you set up...our best 2/3 games last year was v carrickmore league and champ...easy on the eye no mass defenses...

[southtyronegael]

do any of you think its a coincidence that the club teams have become more defensive since the county team started it?

[Knock Yer Mucker In]

watched omagh v clonoe in champ first round last year and was shocked by how negative and defensive both were. short kick outs and running game from both teams. 3 years previous both team played great attacking football and won county titles doing so. same players and management on both sides but style of play had changed fundamentally. and not for the better.

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story, or twist it to suit your agenda, when we won the championship last we played with a permanent sweeper. In both games V Omagh there was a massive breeze blowing down Dungannon pitch, as is normal for a pitch on high ground, we pressed up the pitch when we had that breeze, in the first half of the game with the breeze we pressed high, we missed two goals to put the game out of sight, instead we went in 6 up I think,  the second Half we were  against a massive breeze and defended deeper, Omagh pressed with the breeze.

[southtyronegael]

what agenda? im only saying what i seen. omagh and clonoe drew in dunmoyle in champ 3 or 4 years ago and it was a brilliant high scoring game. last year was muck. finished 10 points each. not having a go at omagh or clonoe but something has changed in the last 3 or 4 years.

[In hiding]

do any of you think its a coincidence that the club teams have become more defensive since the county team started it?

Here's an interesting story.
Around about 2011/12 when jimmy was starting to win matches with his system,  tyrone decided to copy it a wee bit and ended up in an all ireland semi final in 2013.
Then in 2014 mickey seemed to decide that the blanket was the ruination of football and he went 15 v 15. It didn't work too well and we got beat by armagh in a qualifier in healy park in early June.  Meanwhile in the club scene omagh won a county title playing defensively and live on tg4 before the  Omagh crossmaglen  ulster club game, mickey criticised omaghs style of football saying than he feared for them unless they adopted a more expanaive style.
Fast forward now to January 2015, tyrone vs monaghan at healy park, first game of the nfl. Tyrone (still playing 15 v 15) were well beaten by monaghan (floodlights went out) and performed poorly being incredibly naive offering no protection at all for the full back line.
Mickey and horse (or one or other or both) obviously had a week of sleepless nights as 8 days after the monaghan game in castlebar tyrone produced the most defensive performance ever up to that point by playing 14 men behind the ball and leaving cathal mc shane up front on his own. Tyrone won and the rest as they say ....

is history

[In hiding]

what agenda? im only saying what i seen. omagh and clonoe drew in dunmoyle in champ 3 or 4 years ago and it was a brilliant high scoring game. last year was muck. finished 10 points each. not having a go at omagh or clonoe but something has changed in the last 3 or 4 years.

Funnily enough that game was in 2012, neither omagh or Clonoe won the championship that year, errigal did

[southtyronegael]

Where did I say omagh or clonoe won the champ in 2012?

[In hiding]

Where did I say omagh or clonoe won the champ in 2012?

I've no idea. Is that a trick question