The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - we go again

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, February 05, 2009, 03:47:16 PM

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trileacman

#54525
Carragher needs to get over himself about TAA leaving. The lad has given Liverpool 7-8 really good years. Football clubs usually throw 11 players on the scrapheap at the end of every youth season in order to sign some mercenary from Skopje or Montevido instead of them. I really don't see why any youth player should have a loyalty to their club given how shitty most of them treat their contemporaries, a few exceptions aside like Brighton or Southampton.

Liverpool were until very recently paying absolute pittance, relative to other clubs, to Bradley, Kelleher and Diaz despite how important all 3 were to the excellent form the team has had for ~24 months. Now I know footballers are overpaid but still it must be incredibly frustrating to see Evanilson, Donal Mallens or Harry Maguire make 10 times your salary for getting trounced by Palace meanwhile your performances include beating Real Madrid and topping the league.
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johnnycool

Quote from: trileacman on May 05, 2025, 10:11:24 PMCarragher needs to get over himself about TAA leaving. The lad has given Liverpool 7-8 really good years. Football clubs usually throw 11 players on the scrapheap at the end of every youth season in order to sign some mercenary from Skopje or Montevido instead of them. I really don't see why any youth player should have a loyalty to their club given how shitty most of them treat their contemporaries, a few exceptions aside like Brighton or Southampton.

Liverpool were until very recently paying absolute pittance, relative to other clubs, to Bradley, Kelleher and Diaz despite how important all 3 were to the excellent form the team has had for ~24 months. Now I know footballers are overpaid but still it must be incredibly frustrating to see Evanilson, Donal Mallens or Harry Maguire make 10 times your salary for getting trounced by Palace meanwhile your performances include beating Real Madrid and topping the league.

TAA cost Liverpool, not one dime in transfer fee's so why the expectation that they should get one for his leaving?

Every once in a while a lad needs a change of scenery, a new challenge, something to strive for.

If you ever watch Roy Keane on those podcasts, he regrets not going to Italy or Spain to have a go there.

That's why Liam Brady is still the best Irish player ever for me.


quit yo jibbajabba

#54527
You have an asset worth 80-100mill you are losing for nothing, I wouldn't have thought that bit wasnt hard to understand

Armamike

Opposing supporters seemingly can't understand why Liverpool supporters would have an issue with him wanting to go.

Personally I don't think Liverpool will suffer too much.  Will be a better balanced team.
That's just, like your opinion man.

johnnycool

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 06, 2025, 10:22:43 AMYou have an asset worth 80-100mill you are losing for nothing, I wouldn't have thought that bit wasnt hard to understand

Is net spend not what you "invested" in that asset for what you "realised" from their sale, so for TAA that would be a big fat zero.

A lot of players are big negatives on the asset sheets in that regard although Liverpool are probably the best at getting big money for peripheral squad players.


thewobbler

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 06, 2025, 10:22:43 AMYou have an asset worth 80-100mill you are losing for nothing, I wouldn't have thought that bit wasnt hard to understand

It's 30 years since the Bosman ruling, and 24 years since Sol Campbell moved across the road. Just last year Mbappe went on a free transfer having been bought for €180m.

It's not the 1980s ffs.


Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: trileacman on May 05, 2025, 10:11:24 PMCarragher needs to get over himself about TAA leaving. The lad has given Liverpool 7-8 really good years. Football clubs usually throw 11 players on the scrapheap at the end of every youth season in order to sign some mercenary from Skopje or Montevido instead of them. I really don't see why any youth player should have a loyalty to their club given how shitty most of them treat their contemporaries, a few exceptions aside like Brighton or Southampton.

Liverpool were until very recently paying absolute pittance, relative to other clubs, to Bradley, Kelleher and Diaz despite how important all 3 were to the excellent form the team has had for ~24 months. Now I know footballers are overpaid but still it must be incredibly frustrating to see Evanilson, Donal Mallens or Harry Maguire make 10 times your salary for getting trounced by Palace meanwhile your performances include beating Real Madrid and topping the league.

I agree with that.  Imagine if he was not performing, Carragher would most likely be calling for him to go.  Football is a ruthless business and that works both ways.  Just like in any line of work, people seek out fresh challenges. 
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

quit yo jibbajabba

Quote from: thewobbler on May 06, 2025, 11:56:45 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 06, 2025, 10:22:43 AMYou have an asset worth 80-100mill you are losing for nothing, I wouldn't have thought that bit wasnt hard to understand

It's 30 years since the Bosman ruling, and 24 years since Sol Campbell moved across the road. Just last year Mbappe went on a free transfer having been bought for €180m.

It's not the 1980s ffs.



It's happening more and more on here nowadays, yet again I'm wondering why I started

But yes, you're probably right

brokencrossbar1

Am I disappointed that he is leaving? Yes. Is he doing the right thing?  Only he knows that. Will the club get over it?  Absolutely. Yeah he's a local lad who has lived the dream but it's not the world it was 10, 20, 30 years ago. The notion of a 1 club legend is long gone.

And guess what,  he absolutely is replaceable. Of the 3 players whose contracts were up for renewal his is the easiest one to replace for the team. In fact Slot may be 'happy' to lose the local hero as it removes the 'requirement' to play him when he has sometimes not performed. And this is not revisionism,  there have been many occasions where the teams weakness on the right has been exposed.  With Salah being given less responsibility to defend then there needs to be a more defensive RB. That is just a fact.

Thank you Trent for those moments of brilliance. I hope Madrid continue their downward spiral and you win nothing in Spain but have a fulfilling life. Give Bradley the minutes over the last 3 games where possible to plan ahead.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 06, 2025, 12:54:51 PMAm I disappointed that he is leaving? Yes. Is he doing the right thing?  Only he knows that. Will the club get over it?  Absolutely. Yeah he's a local lad who has lived the dream but it's not the world it was 10, 20, 30 years ago. The notion of a 1 club legend is long gone.

And guess what,  he absolutely is replaceable. Of the 3 players whose contracts were up for renewal his is the easiest one to replace for the team. In fact Slot may be 'happy' to lose the local hero as it removes the 'requirement' to play him when he has sometimes not performed. And this is not revisionism,  there have been many occasions where the teams weakness on the right has been exposed.  With Salah being given less responsibility to defend then there needs to be a more defensive RB. That is just a fact.

Thank you Trent for those moments of brilliance. I hope Madrid continue their downward spiral and you win nothing in Spain but have a fulfilling life. Give Bradley the minutes over the last 3 games where possible to plan ahead.
Good summary. The quick corner against Barcelona top of the highlights reel for me but he'll be replaced and the club will move on.

Bogman

People looking to Jamie Carragher for his opinion are probably the same who go looking on Twitter for opinions.
Neither should be payed much heed to.
Tomorrow is not guaranteed

J70

Quote from: RedHand88 on May 05, 2025, 06:11:55 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 05, 2025, 05:37:08 PMLots of Liverpool fans on Twitter seem oblivious to the fact that the very mechanisms which allow them to swoop for other clubs' best players, means that sometimes this will happen to themselves.

Or perhaps they just do expect things to be different for them. I don't know why.

BREAKING: Football twitter is apparently full of idiots

More on this developing story as we get it.

 ;D

Although wobbler makes a valid point about the double standard.

All clubs exist on a hierarchy. Liverpool are near the top, Madrid ARE the top, plain and simple.

gawa316

Mohamed Salah has been named the Football Writers' Association Footballer of the year.

Van Dijk 2nd, Isak 3rd, Rice 4th

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