The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread

[gawa316]

I think that's in relation to Adebeyor.

Oh right my mistake.

Adebeyor is having a great season but I admit in bias view it would be El Nino everytime

[stevo-08]

I would rate Adebayor higher.

are you having a laugh??? Not in the same league as torres. If liverpool has the same play makers or creative midfielders as arsenal, torres would be running away in the top goal scorer charts. Torres is definitely the best striker in the PL at the mo and possibly the best in the world.

[corn02]

Did anyone watch the highlights last night? Th co-commentator, was it Barry Horne or whatever you call him? As bitter as I have heard. Liverpool played useless but 4-0 was a fair reflection?? WTF.

[imtommygunn]

Difference between Adebayor and Torres is that Torres can and will make it happen himself whereas I think Adebayor needs someone else to make it happen. Still an excellent player no doubt but he has Hleb, Rosicky, Fabregas etc whereas Torres just doesn't have support of that calibre(Gerrard aside).

The only striker in the same league I would say is Drogba. Perhaps Anelka at a push but don't think he's at that level.

[stevo-08]

Was also very impressed with Skrtel last night. it's too early to judge just yet, and we'll need to see him against much higher quality opponents, but i think he'll turn out to be an excellent signing.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

The end in sight?

A DEAL for Dubai International Capital to buy George Gillett's Liverpool stake is imminent, it has been claimed.

Sources close to DIC today revealed Tom Hicks is ready to drop his resistance to George Gillett selling his stake in Liverpool Football Club to DIC.

An offer from DIC for Gillett's shares remains on the table and should the American accept he would walk away from Anfield with a profit of around £40m.

Gillett is believed to want more and DIC remain insistent they will not be raising their offer but with talks still going on between the two parties it is thought a deal could be reached within days.

Hicks' reluctance to enter into any sort of partnership with DIC is well known and on several occasions he has spoken of his willingness to use a veto to block any such deal.

But he has been in touch with DIC in the last 24 hours to tell them he will not stand in their way if they can agree a price with Gillett. He has also told DIC he is willing to enter into talks with them at the earliest possible opportunity to discuss the future of the club.

DIC's growing confidence that a deal can and will be done saw them dispatch a representative to Anfield for last night's Premier League game against West Ham.

The representative met with members of various fans group in a bid to gauge their opinion about the club and the best way forward for it.

He also witnessed first hand the latest protest by fans against the current owners with a demonstration which lasted the full 15 minutes of the half-time interval.

The Spirit of Shankly has already indicated it is ready to offer DIC a cautious welcome and would be prepared to enter into a dialogue with them.

[EC Unique]

I would rate Adebayor higher.

are you having a laugh??? Not in the same league as torres. If liverpool has the same play makers or creative midfielders as arsenal, torres would be running away in the top goal scorer charts. Torres is definitely the best striker in the PL at the mo and possibly the best in the world.

I think you need to get those tinted glasses off. He scores two hat-tricks in 2 weeks against shocking defence and all of a sudden he is the best striker in the world. Calm down and give him time to prove himself against decent defences and then we can talk. I am sure he will though. As I said he is a quality striker and as someone else said he can create chances with little or no help from the very average players around him but not the best in the premiership never mind the world..... Yet.

[stevo-08]

I think you need to get those tinted glasses off. He scores two hat-tricks in 2 weeks against shocking defence and all of a sudden he is the best striker in the world. Calm down and give him time to prove himself against decent defences and then we can talk. I am sure he will though. As I said he is a quality striker and as someone else said he can create chances with little or no help from the very average players around him but not the best in the premiership never mind the world..... Yet.

ok, maybe i was exaggerating saying that adebayor wasnt in the same league, thats probably a bit harsh on the lad, cos he has had a great season. But i honestly dont see a better striker in the PL at the moment than torres. And thats not just because of the last 2 games, i've watched him over the whole season including the goal against chelsea & the 2 v porto (both of those teams are decent, arent they??). Drogba was mentioned and I think he is probably closest to torres. if you think adebayor is better, then fair enough but I think he's cashing in big time in a team with some outstanding creative midfielders. think of it this way - if/when torres gets over the 20 PL goal mark, he'll be the first liverpool striker to do so since fowler in 96!!! And maybe the defences were shocking but he still became only the 4th player in the clubs history to score hatricks in successive league games. Not bad in his first season. and i also said that torres was possibly the best striker in the world. Im probably a bit bias in my view but i think there's a fair enough argument.

[heganboy]

Liverpool seemed to have turned a corner lately.

from EC Unique

If you remember Ged Houllier used to turn a corner every 3 weeks or so...

[GalwayBayBoy]

I would rate Adebayor higher.

are you having a laugh??? Not in the same league as torres. If liverpool has the same play makers or creative midfielders as arsenal, torres would be running away in the top goal scorer charts. Torres is definitely the best striker in the PL at the mo and possibly the best in the world.

I think you need to get those tinted glasses off. He scores two hat-tricks in 2 weeks against shocking defence and all of a sudden he is the best striker in the world. Calm down and give him time to prove himself against decent defences and then we can talk. I am sure he will though. As I said he is a quality striker and as someone else said he can create chances with little or no help from the very average players around him but not the best in the premiership never mind the world..... Yet.

Torres, Drogba and Adebayor (in no particular order) and probably the three best out and out strikers in the premier league. Drogba by his own standards this season has not been great although has proved himself by already having successful seasons at Chelsea. Adebayor is finally making a big impact this season after flattering to deceive last year while Torres has made a frankly unbelievable impression in his first season given that many great players have taken at least a season to a season and a half to adapt to the English game.

Which one you prefer is really a matter of choice.

[brokencrossbar1]

Different kinds of strikers, and difficult to compare in my view.  Obvouvly from a biased Livepool point of view I would rate Torres better than the others and that is simply on the basis of how well he has adapted in his first season.  The other two didn't set the world alight straight away, whereas Torres has been unreal and has firmly set himself among the favourites in the Kop.  The one thing I like about him above all else is his honesty of effort.  He is not afraid to get his hands dirty as it were and this is something that must be applauded for a young foreigner playing in the Premier League.  He takes the bumps but doesn't take the soft option.

Anyway, has anyone seen much of Nemeth in the reserves?  He is banging them in as well and may be worth a run out inthe first team before the season is out.  I know he is still young but if he can adapt as well to the first team game he could save a few bob too.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

He's got 7 in 7 for the reserves

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hQfNndAGV2s&feature=related - his first 5

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xJm7XysZJNY&feature=related - the 6th

[The Real Laoislad]

Torres is certainly playing well at the moment, and there is a dearth of out and out strikers in world football at the moment, in the old #9 mould, like Drogba and Adabeyor.


Anyway, I hate that phrase I bolded above, remember the latter days of Houllier? We were turning so many corners we were going around in circles.

Circles don't have corners 


Anywho i think Torres is definatly in the Top 3 strikers in the Premiership...Adebayor and Rooney being the other..
Adebayor has to be there for the amount of goals he has scored and I would take Rooney ahead of any of the others too be honest..He is such a important player to United and while mabye not scoring as many as the others this year he certainly is having a great season in his own right and in my opinon is a more important player to Man U than Ronaldo

Anelka hasn't done much since joining Chelsea and Drogba is having a quite season,granted he was missing when he went to the ANC but still by his standards he has been quiet

[Norf Tyrone]

Anelka hasn't done much since joining Chelsea

!What about giving him some time?

Anyhow..
....what happened Pennant he didn't play at the weekend? I am sure I read that he missed Sunday's game as he was ill. The reason I am asking is that he was clubbing in Strabane on Saturday night!

Note: This is not a wind up. He really was out in Strabane on Saturday evening. I think he is going with some yoke from Hollyoaks, and she was doing a PA here. He was tagging (Bad choice of word there) along I think.

[stevo-08]

The end in sight?

Im not sure about that - Hicks seems adamant to maintain a majority shareholding. hard to see DIC buying into that arrangement. And if Hicks ends up buying out Gillett, mightnt be alot of funds available for buying more players.



Hicks orders Dubai visit for talks on Liverpool impasse

Andy Hunter
Friday March 7, 2008
The Guardian

Lawyers representing Tom Hicks intend to travel to Dubai next week to discuss a possible working relationship with Dubai International Capital, one that is based on the Texan's terms as he strives to become the majority Liverpool shareholder.
Anfield's co-owner appeared to soften his stance on the future ownership of the club yesterday when DIC claimed he was willing to meet them and to allow his co-chairman, George Gillett, to sell his 50% stake to the investment arm of the Dubai government for around £215m.

Hicks, however, has not veered from a determination to become the club's major influence and has instructed his lawyers to see whether DIC will reconsider their own ambitions to gain majority control. That is not an offer the Dubai company are currently prepared to accept.
Despite continuing efforts to raise funds for a rival bid for Gillett's investment and the power of veto over any sale to a third party, Hicks has indicated to DIC that he would allow his co-owner to sell them his stake, though only 49% or less. The leverage buyout expert is seeking a minimum 51% holding in Liverpool and remains resolute in his insistence that any new shareholder coming into the club would have to accept a minority stake.

The American's hardline stance continues to present a fundamental obstacle to DIC's intentions and the company will have to increase its £200m offer for Hicks' 50% before the co-chairman even reconsiders his position. DIC are also becoming increasingly exasperated by Gillett, and next week's meeting in Dubai is unlikely to go ahead unless he has finally accepted their bid for his 13-month investment.

Gillett has been offered a £40m profit on his 50% stake as a premium for dissolving his business relationship with Hicks and thereby allowing DIC to exert pressure on Hicks to follow suit. Over two days have now passed since Gillett was given a deadline to accept or reject DIC's package, however, and he has not given a decision.

DIC's representatives are continuing to work on a deal with Gillett's lawyers and are exploring ways for him to sell without his co-owner's permission, but until the sports tycoon agrees to sell there is no working relationship for Hicks and DIC to discuss.

Hicks has no plans personally to meet Amanda Staveley of private equity firm and DIC's advisors, PCP Capital Partners, and will have 90 days to lodge a formal rival offer for Gillett's shareholding should he block any attempt by his co-owner to sell his 50%. Although DIC remain confident a deal can eventually be struck with the Americans they may have to revise their intentions for Liverpool should the current impasse continue.