Monaghan v Mayo - Inniskeen, 10th April 2011

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Gods make their own importance.

If yez want to go to God's own land you can visit the home of the All Ireland club champions in 15 minutes from Kavanagh country.

Is there a county in Ireland that dose not claim the same.

[mannix]

Enough talk about roads and poetry, do  Monaghan expect to win this one ? I wonder if the mayo players will put a big performance in so they can get a jersey or is a case of going through the motions now they are safe in division 1 ?   

[IolarCoisCuain]

Now Mannix, you can never have too much poetry.

As for the game, I expect Mayo to try hard. There was a story somewhere today about Horan trimming the panel so I guess we'd be seeing boys playing for summer places, and boys playing for summer places try hard. I expect a radically different team, and again, as before, Horan will make substitutions based on what he wants to see rather than match conditions.

Anybody know when the team is named? Any chance of tonight?

[Tubberman]

Now Mannix, you can never have too much poetry.

As for the game, I expect Mayo to try hard. There was a story somewhere today about Horan trimming the panel so I guess we'd be seeing boys playing for summer places, and boys playing for summer places try hard. I expect a radically different team, and again, as before, Horan will make substitutions based on what he wants to see rather than match conditions.

Anybody know when the team is named? Any chance of tonight?

Horan is quoted as saying that he has the core of a team now, which he wants to keep together, so I doubt there'll be wholesale changes. I think he said there'd probably be about 4-5 changes, and I'd imagine he'll be emptying the bench early enough to give lads a fair crack at making the cut.

On the poetry, I did Kavanagh for the leaving, and Iniskeen Road was always a favourite of mine.
Plus of course, he wrote the words to Raglan Road

Edit for a better version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gehGvW-RIkU&feature=related

[RedandGreenSniper]

Now Mannix, you can never have too much poetry.

As for the game, I expect Mayo to try hard. There was a story somewhere today about Horan trimming the panel so I guess we'd be seeing boys playing for summer places, and boys playing for summer places try hard. I expect a radically different team, and again, as before, Horan will make substitutions based on what he wants to see rather than match conditions.

Anybody know when the team is named? Any chance of tonight?

Horan is quoted as saying that he has the core of a team now, which he wants to keep together, so I doubt there'll be wholesale changes. I think he said there'd probably be about 4-5 changes, and I'd imagine he'll be emptying the bench early enough to give lads a fair crack at making the cut.

On the poetry, I did Kavanagh for the leaving, and Iniskeen Road was always a favourite of mine.
Plus of course, he wrote the words to Raglan Road
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ex65rl3C48

Unfortunately I was never introduced to Kavanagh during my education. Have looked at it fleetingly since, always intending to get around to a proper look at it some day. I better get moving.

Regarding the Mayo team, I don't think we'll see as many changes as I initially thought. Horan, as Tubberman rightly states, has indicated as much. But the point remains - if you weren't starting against Cork or Monaghan, you would want to be looking over your shoulder.

[Orangemac]

Come on Monaghan! Win by 1 point.I think

It's confusing this relegation lark.

[moysider]

Now Mannix, you can never have too much poetry.

As for the game, I expect Mayo to try hard. There was a story somewhere today about Horan trimming the panel so I guess we'd be seeing boys playing for summer places, and boys playing for summer places try hard. I expect a radically different team, and again, as before, Horan will make substitutions based on what he wants to see rather than match conditions.

Anybody know when the team is named? Any chance of tonight?

Horan is quoted as saying that he has the core of a team now, which he wants to keep together, so I doubt there'll be wholesale changes. I think he said there'd probably be about 4-5 changes, and I'd imagine he'll be emptying the bench early enough to give lads a fair crack at making the cut.

On the poetry, I did Kavanagh for the leaving, and Iniskeen Road was always a favourite of mine.
Plus of course, he wrote the words to Raglan Road

Edit for a better version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gehGvW-RIkU&feature=related

Did not see the quote but that seems to be just noise. A man just saying something to answer a question. wouldn t pay it much heed.

I just hope he gets the cull right but some of the substitutions the last day would suggest he might be 'conservative' in parts.

There has been some pick and mix selections so far. Generally we ve got decent effort and nice football. The exception being  the shape and selection for the first half of the Dub match just being innocent. However the second half of Galway and the Cork game showed what can be done when management get it right.

[rosnarun]

has ever a game discussion turned into such a high brow exhibition of cut and paste

Memory of my Father

     Every old man I see
Reminds me of my father
When he had fallen in love with death
One time when sheaves were gathered.

That man I saw in Gardner Street
Stumbled on the kerb was one,
He stared at me half-eyed,
I might have been his son.

And I remember the musician
Faltering over his fiddle
In Bayswater, London,
He too set me the riddle.

Every old man I see
In October-coloured weather
Seems to say to me:
"I was once your father."

[Lar Naparka]

Now Mannix, you can never have too much poetry.

As for the game, I expect Mayo to try hard. There was a story somewhere today about Horan trimming the panel so I guess we'd be seeing boys playing for summer places, and boys playing for summer places try hard. I expect a radically different team, and again, as before, Horan will make substitutions based on what he wants to see rather than match conditions.

Anybody know when the team is named? Any chance of tonight?

I would like to think Horan has some idea of his key players by now. I would imagine that any other manager with serious expectations of going further than the first round of the backdoors would have a good idea of his preferred first 15. You could include his bench as well.
I haven't a clue what JH has in mind because I am not privy to what goes on in the dressing room and in training. To my way of thinking, the selection of a particular individual at midfield could influence the selection at no. 14 and the same applies, to a greater or lesser extent, throughout the field.
It's a case of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts.  I might be impressed by the form of someone on a wet and windy day in February or March, there's little point in picking him for a game in June if he can't hit a barn door with a shovel when it comes to accurate passing or linking up effectively with those around him.
I am really looking forward to the game in Inishkeen because we are going to get a pitch as dry as a championship one and for many lads it will be the last big chance to get the manager's eye before the serious stuff begins.
I know injuries and loss of form and such variables that no manager can anticipate need to be kept in mind but I imagine we will see a good indication of what our man has in mind for the team and the bench as well.

BTW, has the team been announced yet?

[Main Street]

Whist you Mayo lads were off getting offended by Nordies, the thread dropped off the first page.
Usually a match thread involving Mayo never leaves first spot, never mind dropping off the page.

News from the revamped and very tidy looking Monaghan GAA website
http://www.monaghangaa.ie/2011/04/08/previews-april-9-10/

Monaghan are again set to be without Owen Lennon and Vincent Corey, although they will hope to have Darren Hughes and Paul Finlay available. A positive from Monaghan's campaign is the performances of young players like Kieran Duffy, Christopher McGuinness, Mark Keogh, David Hughes, Conor Galligan and James Turley, as well as the excellent form of Dessie Mone at centre-back.

True enough, Dessie these days is a gentleman, a sportsman and in excellent form.

[Farrandeelin]

Now Mannix, you can never have too much poetry.

As for the game, I expect Mayo to try hard. There was a story somewhere today about Horan trimming the panel so I guess we'd be seeing boys playing for summer places, and boys playing for summer places try hard. I expect a radically different team, and again, as before, Horan will make substitutions based on what he wants to see rather than match conditions.

Anybody know when the team is named? Any chance of tonight?

Horan is quoted as saying that he has the core of a team now, which he wants to keep together, so I doubt there'll be wholesale changes. I think he said there'd probably be about 4-5 changes, and I'd imagine he'll be emptying the bench early enough to give lads a fair crack at making the cut.

On the poetry, I did Kavanagh for the leaving, and Iniskeen Road was always a favourite of mine.
Plus of course, he wrote the words to Raglan Road

Edit for a better version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gehGvW-RIkU&feature=related

I did Kavanagh for the leaving as well. I wasn't too good at English so the poems were lost on me.

While we can say there's nothing to play for, we can be sure that no player wants to lose. I'd like to see Mayo win, for the type of game that will be hard won for later on in the year. It won't be an easy game and Monaghan have everything to play for, but no game from now on will be easy. Hopefully the boys, whoever they are will serve up a good tempo and try to make the championship 15 by signing off with a win.

[Farneylawd2011]

I believe if Monaghan lose and get relegated it shall be a long time before they get back up to Divison 1 again.

[western exile]

Mayo SF Team V's Monaghan in Allianz Football League:
                        1) David Clarke
2) Cathal Hallinan 3) Alan Feeney 4) Keith Higgins
5) Peadar Gardiner 6) Ger Cafferkey 7) James Burke
          8 ) Seamus O'Shea 9) Tom Parsons
10) Aidan Campbell 11) Andy Moran 12) Kevin McLoughlin
13) Enda Varley 14) Alan Freeman 15) Jason Doherty.

Subs: Hennelly, Barrett, Reilly, R.OConnor, Rochford, Keegan, Moran, Gibbons, C OConnor, Kilcoyne, Ronaldson

[maigheo]

Interesting selection with the old minor midfield partnership of O shea and Parsons.I would imagine that Parsons will really have to up his game to have any chance of selection during the summer.I would expect Mayo to narrowly win this game and go into the summer on a high..

[moysider]

Mayo SF Team V's Monaghan in Allianz Football League:
                        1) David Clarke
2) Cathal Hallinan 3) Alan Feeney 4) Keith Higgins
5) Peadar Gardiner 6) Ger Cafferkey 7) James Burke
          8 ) Seamus O'Shea 9) Tom Parsons
10) Aidan Campbell 11) Andy Moran 12) Kevin McLoughlin
13) Enda Varley 14) Alan Freeman 15) Jason Doherty.

Subs: Hennelly, Barrett, Reilly, R.OConnor, Rochford, Keegan, Moran, Gibbons, C OConnor, Kilcoyne, Ronaldson

Yeah. That team has decent shape about it - even on paper. Richie Feeney is in pole position for 5 but management obviously see Gardiner still as a big player down the line. Interesting that Higgins is playing with the big ball even though the hurlers are playing in Clones at the same time. Dillon and Cunniffe are injured ( TC could not have been as loose the last day without being hamstrung in some way). I ve been impressed with Hallihan with the time he s got and I believe Burke will be one of the players of the championship if management go with him. Interesting that the much maligned Caff ( who some would not have even on the panel at all, at all, go deo,go deo) is, with Kevin McL and Andy the only one that has started all league matches.

For all his ability Parsons has to be under pressure to perform in this one. When the cut comes we could be losing a midfielder or 2. And we re slightly top heavy in the forwards as well. For midfield we ll have the 2 O Sés, McGar (hopefully), Parsons, Gibbons, Kilcullen, B.Moran. Could be tough decisions there as with the forwards. Douglas not listed for the next day. That mightn t mean a lot either. But Ronaldson and Kilcoyne seem to have been put on the hind tit recently. The backs might be more secure. I see only 2 backs being cut. If even that. I expect some of the big midfielders will be seen as options further in.