Jerome Ousted?

[seafoid]

Is GAA coverage being sidelined in the occupied territories? it seems strange that both Logan and Quinn both were let go.
I always found them to be very decent journalists with a deep love for the games especially fuball. 

[snatter]

Weak article by Keith Duggan in the Irish Times at the weekend that touches on GAA coverage in the north.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0108/1224287044296.html

Rather than focus on just why BBC NI and UTV give vastly disproportionate coverage to gaelic football compared to the crowds it attracts, he thought the main angle was the fickle nature of being a TV presenter.

He could easily have got loads of examples from the gaaboard to highlight how NI local soccer traditionally gets the lions share of resources, despite getting hardly any support.

Until rte is freely available in every home in the north, BBC NI and UTV should not be allowed to get away with third rate coverage of the sport that draw's NI's largest crowds.

[RedandGreenSniper]

Weak article by Keith Duggan in the Irish Times at the weekend that touches on GAA coverage in the north.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0108/1224287044296.html

Rather than focus on just why BBC NI and UTV give vastly disproportionate coverage to gaelic football compared to the crowds it attracts, he thought the main angle was the fickle nature of being a TV presenter.

He could easily have got loads of examples from the gaaboard to highlight how NI local soccer traditionally gets the lions share of resources, despite getting hardly any support.

Until rte is freely available in every home in the north, BBC NI and UTV should not be allowed to get away with third rate coverage of the sport that draw's NI's largest crowds.

You expect him to quote anonymous people on a discussion board as evidence? Now that would be weak.

[snatter]

You expect him to quote anonymous people on a discussion board as evidence? Now that would be weak.

Not peoples' opinions, no, but the facts that have published here.

For example, somebody posted a complete list of NI local soccer attendances a year or two ago. These figures effectively leaked into the public domain - the IFA refuses to publish attendance figures for the obvious reason that they would highlight just what a minority attraction it is.

Several posters were able to highlight the virtual non-coverage given to Ulster club championship matches that drew tens of thousands the same weekend.

Keith Duggan could have used these figures to question BBC NI (i think it was) just why they blanket deployed their cameras at soccer matches attracting fewer than 150 people, but ignored GAA.

[RedandGreenSniper]

You expect him to quote anonymous people on a discussion board as evidence? Now that would be weak.

Not peoples' opinions, no, but the facts that have published here.

For example, somebody posted a complete list of NI local soccer attendances a year or two ago. These figures effectively leaked into the public domain - the IFA refuses to publish attendance figures for the obvious reason that they would highlight just what a minority attraction it is.

Several posters were able to highlight the virtual non-coverage given to Ulster club championship matches that drew tens of thousands the same weekend.

Keith Duggan could have used these figures to question BBC NI (i think it was) just why they blanket deployed their cameras at soccer matches attracting fewer than 150 people, but ignored GAA.

Sure that person could have made up the figures. Not a reliable source in all fairness. But the piece would be stronger if he got hold of such info from reliable or proper sources.

[seafoid]

It is hard to imagine say Michael Lyster and Marty Morrissey being sacked from
RTE.  What is driving this attitude to the GAA in the north?   

[snatter]

Sure that person could have made up the figures. Not a reliable source in all fairness. But the piece would be stronger if he got hold of such info from reliable or proper sources.

They could have, but didn't. As already stated, they leaked out into the public domain and were republished here.

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

It is hard to imagine say Michael Lyster and Marty Morrissey being sacked from
RTE.  What is driving this attitude to the GAA in the north?

If they slagged off their bosses on a public website they'd get the boot quickly enough I'd imagine.

[aontroim]

Here's how it should be done with the BBC 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12161045

[Bogball XV]

It is hard to imagine say Michael Lyster and Marty Morrissey being sacked from
RTE.  What is driving this attitude to the GAA in the north?

If they slagged off their bosses on a public website they'd get the boot quickly enough I'd imagine.

gerry ryan used to give out about rte steady (not anonymously though).

I am not convinced that quoting attendance figures is that relevant either tbh, that realy says nothing about tv viewership - surely ratings as collected by the agencies that do that are much more important, certainly to advertisers and also to the BBC in letting them know what the public think of their programming.

[Ulick]

surely ratings as collected by the agencies that do that are much more important, certainly to advertisers and also to the BBC in letting them know what the public think of their programming.

Not sure what way the figures are collected up here. I have requested them from BBCNI before and they've refused to hand them over on the grounds that they were not the owners of the data and at the same time have refused to say who gave them the data in the first place.

[ziggysego]

surely ratings as collected by the agencies that do that are much more important, certainly to advertisers and also to the BBC in letting them know what the public think of their programming.

Not sure what way the figures are collected up here. I have requested them from BBCNI before and they've refused to hand them over on the grounds that they were not the owners of the data and at the same time have refused to say who gave them the data in the first place.

I've had the same experience regarding getting the figures from the BBC, over the last two or three years. Even been told on one occasion, that the figures are not a true reflection, whatever that means.

[Main Street]

It is hard to imagine say Michael Lyster and Marty Morrissey being sacked from
RTE.  What is driving this attitude to the GAA in the north?

If they slagged off their bosses on a public website they'd get the boot quickly enough I'd imagine.

If they were betrayed by their colleagues, who knows what might have transpired.  Maybe just a warning would be sufficient. But is there the same culture of snitching on your colleagues in RTE as appears to be in the BBC NI?
Jerome's internet activity was outed by a snitch, Stephen Watson, who reported Jerome to his bosses.

[Hardy]

It is hard to imagine say Michael Lyster and Marty Morrissey being sacked from RTE. 

Yes - this is the other extreme. It's impossible to be sacked from RTÉ.

[seafoid]

What was the trigger that set Jerome Quinn complaining about GAA coverage? Was it the same as the force that pushed logie out of his job?  Do the BBC and UTV cover less GAA now than say 5 years ago?  If so what explains this?