USFC Final 2010, Clones, Sunday 18th July: Tír Eoghain vs Muineachán

[Rois]

Now Main Street, you are making up excuses that no one here has mentioned.

Would you prefer people hide like they usually do in saying things they don't mean so that they can save face if it all goes wrong?  Look at all the ammunition you'll have if Monaghan win. 

Re: the betting, don't you know we have an "excellent centre" to be building to try to rival that fancy place you have near Iniskeen.  Can't be wasting money on gambling.

I see no reason why Tyrone can't win this.  Logically we shouldn't lose until we meet someone better than us.  And I don't think Monaghan fit that bill. 

[J OGorman]

Will they double team up on Justy or Joe in case they push forward for scores or just play 2 keepers?

lets double-team a couple of defending double-teamers...thats the future of gaelic right there 

[donelli]

I hope this years championship trend of lower division league teams beating higher division teams doesnt follow through for this decider. Wouldnt like to see Monaghan lose to a second tier side in the final.   

[mackers]

Will they double team up on Justy or Joe in case they push forward for scores or just play 2 keepers?

lets double-team a couple of defending double-teamers...thats the future of gaelic right there 

Ignore Fuzzman, on this thread he has already stated that Paul Grimley has added a bit of steel to a team that played "nice" football and admitted that he couldn't remember Paul Finlay's name.........a real fountain of football knowledge.........

[Maguire01]

In fairness Tomboy Freeman & yer man at 11who's name escapes me right now are good players & will no doubt score if given good supply. Outside those two are ye depending on yer old Dick to get ye 5 points from play from outside the 40?

You're clearly bang up to date with our scoring threat. McManus isn't even on your radar. Might be worth considering that 9 players scored against Fermanagh. There was a pretty decent spread in the Armagh game too. We're not short of options to send over a few points.

The general tone of this thread is difficult to comprehend. I've been at both Tyrone games this year and I haven't seen anything spectacular. Maybe they just haven't been properly tested? Same as Monaghan then.

[Maguire01]

Logically we shouldn't lose until we meet someone better than us.  And I don't think Monaghan fit that bill.

Is sporting results were dictated by logic...

[Maguire01]

Likewise I sense Monaghan will have this fear also that they will pay us too much respect

Not a hope. 2007 will stand to Monaghan big time. Beating Tyrone in Inniskeen (yes, i know it was only the league... but psychologically it may be more significant from a Monaghan perspective - It had been a long time since Monaghan had beaten Tyrone) will also do no harm. There's not a mission Monaghan will lose this game due to having too much respect for Tyrone. There will be no fear. Monaghan will be up for this from the throw in and i'd be surprised if we went into significant arrears at the start of the game.

[Zapatista]

Monaghan could be over confident going into this game. There is a danger Monaghan could find cause not to show Tyrone the proper respect and this could cost them dearly.

[Fuzzman]

I was just trying to annoy ye lads with purposely not remembering Finlay
He's on my Fantasy team and thought he was a class act years ago
How old is he now? I see he made a bit of a stand for his team mate too

I am not totally writing off Monaghan folks but am amazed from 2003 onwards how ye seem to be optimistic.

Would I be right some of ye think ye could go the whole way this year if things go right for ye?

I think McManus will have not come up against a player like Justy before.

[supersarsfields]

Likewise I sense Monaghan will have this fear also that they will pay us too much respect

Not a hope. 2007 will stand to Monaghan big time. Beating Tyrone in Inniskeen (yes, i know it was only the league... but psychologically it may be more significant from a Monaghan perspective - It had been a long time since Monaghan had beaten Tyrone) will also do no harm. There's not a mission Monaghan will lose this game due to having too much respect for Tyrone. There will be no fear. Monaghan will be up for this from the throw in and i'd be surprised if we went into significant arrears at the start of the game.

I have to say that's a line I hate hearing. Saying a team had "too much respect" for another team. I think it's a load of auld bull. I think it's just another way of saying, "that team were better than you and they showed it on the day".

PS That's not actually in relation to this game just a point in general. Maybe I should put it in the gear grinding thread!! 

[nrico2006]

McManus hasn't exactly been scoring for fun, I think he has something like two points from play in the two games so far, hardly impressive considering the total posted by Monaghan.  Tyrone were well able to curb a seemingly more potent Down attack in the last game so the Monaghan forwards are hardly going to strike fear into Tyrone.  I simply think there is too many average players in the Monaghan side to really break into that top bracket.

[Rois]

Logically we shouldn't lose until we meet someone better than us.  And I don't think Monaghan fit that bill.

Is sporting results were dictated by logic...

Agreed, but without the value of time travel and therefore not knowing the result, a logical (Tyrone  ) person would at this stage conclude that we should beat Monaghan. 

[jobo11]

Monaghan Have progressed this year under the leadership of Paul G the armagh man. but i don t see this being a factor in the ulster final. tyrone by 7

[imtommygunn]

I didn't think there was such a thing as a logical Tyrone person

[Schkite]

McManus hasn't exactly been scoring for fun, I think he has something like two points from play in the two games so far, hardly impressive considering the total posted by Monaghan.  Tyrone were well able to curb a seemingly more potent Down attack in the last game so the Monaghan forwards are hardly going to strike fear into Tyrone.  I simply think there is too many average players in the Monaghan side to really break into that top bracket.

He hasn't been scoring for fun in the championship, but racked up good scores in the league, second to Bernard Brogan in Div. 1 if I'm not mistaken. What's been most impressive about him in the last two games is his all round play, none of his markers could keep near him and he was at the heart of most of Monaghan's scores, especially against Fermanagh. He'll have it tougher against Tyrone of course but hopefully he can rise to the occasion. I'd have to disagree about Down having a more potent attack, but that's just my opinion.