The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[saffron sam2]

People seem to think that the likes of Hodgson etc would even consider coming to Celtic. Not in a million years. Its not like 10 years ago when the job was attractive to managers the calibre of O'Neill etc.

Do players on 30 grand a week care or is it possible to motivate them for games against Ross Co?

Bottom line is that this time last year Celtic were a passionate competitive side, and one that would have won the Scottish Title had they beaten Hibs at Easter Road in the penultimte game, instead of doing everything but score in a nil all draw.Strachan was manager.

This year its a shambles and the blame must lie squarely with the person who was manager for best part of this season

Bottom line is last year Celtic finished second in the league and lost a Scottish Cup quarter-final.

This season Celtic will finish second in the league and have lost a Scottish Cup semi-final.

Progress, albeit slow, you have to admit.

[Myles Na G.]

No stranger than that blinkered daft notion that to suceed in Scotland that you must understand Celtic/rangers and the hoopla surrounding them you put up prev!
Certainly Lennon knows! Strachan knows. Mowbray IMO did know. None really suceeded!
Other than that you re-iterate what I said - apart from where mowbray was starting to succeed... He got rid of the obv rubbish ....but that was 6 months too late!!! And also was getting clean sheets... But too late.

Wanderer has it spot on apart from remembering that robson has been out inj for the past two seasons and mcdonald was also battling inj for the past 18 months as well as an over inflated attitude and loss of work ethic!

Would like to see Dundee it'd winning a trophy...just rewards for their play these past few seasons!

3 league titles in a row, 2 last 16 CL finishes. - that's not succeeding in your eyes? But Mowbray's team was 'improving'? 

[lynchbhoy]

No stranger than that blinkered daft notion that to suceed in Scotland that you must understand Celtic/rangers and the hoopla surrounding them you put up prev!
Certainly Lennon knows! Strachan knows. Mowbray IMO did know. None really suceeded!

Perhaps you will explain this "hoopla" I put up. Are you referring to me saying Mowbray did not appreciate what was required of a Celtic manager? His comment that Celtic fans might excuse him this disaster of a season if he delivered a treble three years down the line proved that point quite conclusively. The idea there were positives to take from a 4-0 defeat to St.Mirren again showed he had somehow failed to grasp what was required.

The Strachan obsession is tiresome to be honest, its be done to death on here and is irrelevant to Celtic's defeat today. Once again I dont think he is a great manager but he delivered Celtic 3 titles and took them to the latter stages of the Champions League twice despite having a reduced budget in comparison to MON. He made a mess of the final months of his final season and the time was right for him to go but he still left a solid enough squad which a competent manager could have built upon with the right additions. Mowbray managed to take it backwards. You suggest he cleared out the rubbish but it was his legacy which left Celtic with a centre defence today of a kid from Stockport who wasnt supposed to be near the first team this season (and it shows) and a lad who couldnt get a game for Reading. I dont know a single Celtic supporter who believes Mowbray was making progress or that the board paniced in removing him, it was obvious the poor man was out his depth and that it was beyond him to turn it around. You dont really seem to be in touch with the situation at Celtic or in Scottish football in general.

only yourself can explain the daft notion that you need to know 'about the old firm and whats involved etc' (paraphrasing) to be a successful manager in Celtic or rangers.
Thas daft - Wim Jansen and even MON wouldnt have had that knowledge !
To take a managers comments after a defeat and use them as your evidence !
says it all !

Mowbray is guity of many things , wrong doings.
But his team had started getting clean sheets, this run seemed to only happen after jettisoning the gruesome twosome centre halves (who have gone to cause calamity elsewhere).  Thats progress (arrested by the st mirren game though).

Celtic fans were going beserk at the abysmal centre half pairing for the past couple of seasons, and when eventually mowbray got rid of them - after eventually spotting that they were sihte and getting new , better , cheaper and younger replacements in for them - yes thats huge progress !
its a pity these lads all got inj after playing mere minutes for the side.

Also josh thompson did better against that big falkirk striker than three or four gary caldwells could ever manage -in their last league meeting which I was over at (away).
Thompson is not the answer, but after seeing caldwell and mcmanus being beaten hands down for the past couple of years because they are not good enough to play centre half - well they would have made no improvement on yesterdays or the st mirren match.

as for strachans 'results' - yes against a floundering rangers team at the time - it was easy to pick up league titles, just as it was for them to win the league when MON was focussing elsewhere.
To say that strachan had done well at bringing Cetic to last 16 of CL - yes he did, but it speaks volues on the luck of the group stage draw more than the managers ability - as it was obv the side were not even half as good as MON's Celtic, but MON never got out of group stages - so are you saying strachan is better than MON? hardly!

It was obv to all that strchan was regressing Celtic with each pasing season. Buying duds (scots internationals) and more third rate rubbish like mccourt and mcginn.

Better players were (and still are required) - Id think Hoiveld and Rogne are in this bracket, but they havent been playing long enough to give more than an inkling.First glimpse loks good though.

myles- you want to continue the farce by having Celtic appoint another untried and untested manager - you are most def a rangers fan !


Atticus, I would also give mcCarthy a go, I have also posted on here prob end of last season that I would love hodgson to be brought in.
Maybe if villa piss off MON he will come back.. unlikely though.
Celtic have to stump up the cash this time and avoid another pastry chef manager.

[Myles Na G.]

'myles- you want to continue the farce by having Celtic appoint another untried and untested manager - you are most def a rangers fan !'

Lambert is on his third club and has improved each one he's been at - not completely untried and untested, then. His managerial career so far mirrors that of MON at the same stage. He doesn't have managerial experience at the top level yet, but Celtic can't afford anyone who has and who isn't already a busted flush in managerial terms. Lambert, as a player, was an intelligent midfielder, showing the flexibility to shine in both the Bundesliga and the SPL. He could play football and he could stick the foot in when necessary. The qualities of intelligence, toughness, and adaptability are the ones that make for good managers. Celtic should get him now.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

only yourself can explain the daft notion that you need to know 'about the old firm and whats involved etc' (paraphrasing) to be a successful manager in Celtic or rangers.
Thas daft - Wim Jansen and even MON wouldnt have had that knowledge !

You arent "paraphrasing", you are inventing something I never said. Your debating skills are as poor as your general knowledge of Scottish football. Still at least you managed to get Thompson's name right this time. Embarrasing stuff altogether.

I see Andreas Hinkel past match bemoaning the fact that all the leaders in the team had been moved on over the past few months, guys who could have taken hold of the game and lifted Celtic yesterday when things were going wrong. Seems you know better than him as well.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

Poor performance last night again, took Motherwell to score to waken Celtic up.
Still a wins a win.
Anyone else think that Josh Thompson is better as a forward then a central defender!

[bingobus]

How many was at it? Looked like about 10-15k.

Have the loyal Celtic supporters thrown the towel in altogether? I hear that the season ticket renewals aren't too healthy either.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

How many was at it? Looked like about 10-15k.

Have the loyal Celtic supporters thrown the towel in altogether? I hear that the season ticket renewals aren't too healthy either.

27,750 was the official attendance.
From what I'm hearing, alot of Celtic fans will not be attending the ridiculously scheduled Glasgow derby being held on a TUESDAY evening!! Sadly this may mean that the Huns with their sold out allocation of approx 7-8000 could be the only voices heard at Parkhead that night!! 

[lynchbhoy]

only yourself can explain the daft notion that you need to know 'about the old firm and whats involved etc' (paraphrasing) to be a successful manager in Celtic or rangers.
Thas daft - Wim Jansen and even MON wouldnt have had that knowledge !

You arent "paraphrasing", you are inventing something I never said. Your debating skills are as poor as your general knowledge of Scottish football. Still at least you managed to get Thompson's name right this time. Embarrasing stuff altogether.

I see Andreas Hinkel past match bemoaning the fact that all the leaders in the team had been moved on over the past few months, guys who could have taken hold of the game and lifted Celtic yesterday when things were going wrong. Seems you know better than him as well.

'thats not how the old firm work'
would indicate to most that you see these two clubs operating differently from others and the requirements for success behind them etc..
I certainly dont beleive any soccer and indeed sports teams operate differently - so the notion is daft.
I see you are the typo police now as well !

Hinkel is making excuses and talking bollix. If he was that worried by it, then he himself could have tried to lead by example. Again thats obvious to any sports person and no different to other teams playing poorly. The 'leaders' that were there for the past couple of years couldnt 'lift' or 'lead' the team this past 2 seasons, so why would anyone expect them to lift or lead now ! (esp when one of them is mostly out injured).

[lynchbhoy]

27,750 was the official attendance.
From what I'm hearing, alot of Celtic fans will not be attending the ridiculously scheduled Glasgow derby being held on a TUESDAY evening!! Sadly this may mean that the Huns with their sold out allocation of approx 7-8000 could be the only voices heard at Parkhead that night!! 

I'd be a bit surprised if a lot of these lads dont end up going...

last nights game from the 60th minute (when I started watching it) looked far better than any recent Celtic perf.
The players were putting in the effort and the ball was being moved very quickly, back to the old MON days when they attacked at speed and upped the tempo of the game and generally outplayed opponents. Brown looked like he gave a s**t, as did mcgeady. I didnt see the first 60 mins but apprarantly Celtic were pedestrian and playing as they did recently up untlil half time. The Keeper redeemed himself, O'Dea and Thompson did well. Wilson was game as ever, but he cant cross the ball and his passing is poor. Naylor much the same. McGeady and Brown zinged the ball about and covered lots of ground. Brown trying too hard imo (getting plenty of stick from 'fans' when he made mistakes). McGinn tried hard. N'Guemo was 100% improved and had a good game - the bit I saw. Kamara was excellent I thought. Pity he was out inj for so long. Keane tried hard but too often his first touch let him down when almost in on goal. He needs 5 or 6 chances to score 1.

[the colonel]

Was at the game myself. Thought there would have been about 25,000

First 45 was absolutely shocking. Really really bad. It only got better once Motherwell scored. Was the only thing that seemed to give them a kick up the arse. I can't say Brown was trying to hard at all. There were times he watched people move ten yards and only ran when the player got the ball instead of staying tight. He has no positional sense at all. Thought Kamara was ok. He took the wrong option a few times and should have shot himself on a few ocassions. I don't think a win can mask how bad they have been lately.

Man of match for me was Zaluska who saved us a few times. Keane was frustrated about how slow the service was. He made run after run the whole game and midfield held the play up continually. I think he only had about 2 good chances lynchboy but should have finished one for sure

[lynchbhoy]

Was at the game myself. Thought there would have been about 25,000

First 45 was absolutely shocking. Really really bad. It only got better once Motherwell scored. Was the only thing that seemed to give them a kick up the arse. I can't say Brown was trying to hard at all. There were times he watched people move ten yards and only ran when the player got the ball instead of staying tight. He has no positional sense at all. Thought Kamara was ok. He took the wrong option a few times and should have shot himself on a few ocassions. I don't think a win can mask how bad they have been lately.

Man of match for me was Zaluska who saved us a few times. Keane was frustrated about how slow the service was. He made run after run the whole game and midfield held the play up continually. I think he only had about 2 good chances lynchboy but should have finished one for sure

brown def was about the place in the last half an hour. Was also impressed by kamara then, imo he was Celtic best in that time. Thought keane had the ball a few times with whch could have been good opportunities but his control let him down.
I like keane, but same with Ireland - he needs players on the same wavelength as himself to get the best out of him and this rarely happens - can only really rem Berbatov perfectly linking up with him.

[the colonel]

Brown should have been about the place in the first hour but wasn't. Your either up for the whole game or not. Was alot easier to see positions he was taking up actually at the game. The main time Keane miscontrolled the ball, it went out for a corner and led to one of the goals.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

Scott Brown can't leave quick enough for me, he has no heart for playing for Celtic and it gets more and more obvious each match he plays, let him go to England, sure as true as night follows day, he'll be back up to Scotland in a couple of years playing for thte forces of darkness!!

The scum dropped another two points last night, only 11 in it now! 

Other good news:
Willie McStay marked his return to coach Celtic's reserve side with a 4-0 victory over Dundee at Lennoxtown.

All four goals arrived in the second-half from Paddy McCourt, Paul McGowan and Morten Rasmussen (two).

[lynchbhoy]

cannot understand why rasmussen isnt getting his game - he looks like he is going to score each time the bal is near or in the box
cant say that about too many other Celtic strikers or players

willie mcstay could very well be lining up for the big job