Limerick hurlers

Started by INDIANA, November 05, 2009, 10:29:19 PM

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Zulu

Limerick are entirely unrealistic about their abilities which isn't helping but you're right a complete root and branch review is needed in Limerick. Although the players need to look at themselves as much as anyone the real problem area is the CB, they have overseen numerous managerial fiascos in the past ten years and if tehy are genuine Limerick GAA men they'll ask some serious questions of themselves.

Reillers

Quote from: INDIANA on March 12, 2010, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 12, 2010, 12:21:37 PM
Beginning of the end for Justin ???


Justin McCarthy's role as Limerick hurling manager came under more pressure last night as it became clear that a special county board meeting had been arranged.

Sources indicate that eight clubs have submitted letters to the board secretary Mike O'Riordan requestìng a special meeting be arranged. Garryspilllane were the first club to submit a request.

A minimum of five clubs must submit requests in order for a special county board meeting to go ahead. At this meeting a vote on McCarthy's leadership is likely to take place.

A vote on McCarthy's leadership took place last December. At that point it was decided to retain McCarthy's services

Justin should save his dignity and just resign. There is no shame on his part but its simply becoming another looming fiasco.

Root and branch needed in Limerick. And its time for them to put dinosaurs like Tom Ryan into pasture once and for all. His comments have been extremely unhelpful trying to tell everyone that Limerick could compete at the top. Doesn't matter who manages them- they are going to be in the doldrums for a while.

....Don't know what to say about that..

orangeman

Quote from: Zulu on March 12, 2010, 09:01:15 PM
Limerick are entirely unrealistic about their abilities which isn't helping but you're right a complete root and branch review is needed in Limerick. Although the players need to look at themselves as much as anyone the real problem area is the CB, they have overseen numerous managerial fiascos in the past ten years and if tehy are genuine Limerick GAA men they'll ask some serious questions of themselves.


This seems to be a very commonly levelled accusation when things go pear shaped.

In an ideal world, how would / could / should managers be appointed ?.

Zulu

I wouldn't say it a common accustation at all. The CB run the GAA within their county so of course questions need to be asked when things go wrong. If your managing a business and things go tits up you have to shoulder a fair proportion of the blame, likewise CB's have to shoulder a lot of the responsibility when their players refuse to play for the county. Whatever about Cork, Limerick have gone through numerous managers over the past ten years and many of them have been shafted by the CB.

orangeman

Quote from: Zulu on March 12, 2010, 11:25:49 PM
I wouldn't say it a common accustation at all. The CB run the GAA within their county so of course questions need to be asked when things go wrong. If your managing a business and things go tits up you have to shoulder a fair proportion of the blame, likewise CB's have to shoulder a lot of the responsibility when their players refuse to play for the county. Whatever about Cork, Limerick have gone through numerous managers over the past ten years and many of them have been shafted by the CB.



Once things go pear shaped, it's either the CB or more likely the manager that's to blame.

How have the managers been shafted in Limerick ?.

Does Richie feel he was shafted ?

Reillers

Quote from: orangeman on March 12, 2010, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: Zulu on March 12, 2010, 11:25:49 PM
I wouldn't say it a common accustation at all. The CB run the GAA within their county so of course questions need to be asked when things go wrong. If your managing a business and things go tits up you have to shoulder a fair proportion of the blame, likewise CB's have to shoulder a lot of the responsibility when their players refuse to play for the county. Whatever about Cork, Limerick have gone through numerous managers over the past ten years and many of them have been shafted by the CB.



Once things go pear shaped, it's either the CB or more likely the manager that's to blame.

How have the managers been shafted in Limerick ?.

Does Richie feel he was shafted ?

...Good God. I can't get over the hypocrisy on here.

INDIANA

Quote from: Zulu on March 12, 2010, 11:25:49 PM
I wouldn't say it a common accustation at all. The CB run the GAA within their county so of course questions need to be asked when things go wrong. If your managing a business and things go tits up you have to shoulder a fair proportion of the blame, likewise CB's have to shoulder a lot of the responsibility when their players refuse to play for the county. Whatever about Cork, Limerick have gone through numerous managers over the past ten years and many of them have been shafted by the CB.

The Limerick players though have completely unrealistic expectations as well. Similar to the Cork players they aren't prepared to accept they must shoulder some of the blame for performances.

Seems to be an issue with Justin though as regards man-management. Some of the Waterford players have been dropped to the bench by Davy Fitz -yet no outcry.

County Board have appointed so many managers in the last 10 years as well. BUt I have to say the Limerick players don't look the easiest bunch to manage. They aren't happy with anyone it seems.

orangeman

It looks like some in Limerick are intent on putting manners on the Limerick boys that have retired :

Limerick hurling manager Justin McCarthy faces another vote of no confidence at a County Board meeting this evening.

A special meeting has been called where over 100 delegates will decide whether he will continue as the counties manager.

A two-thirds majority is needed to remove him but observers believe the McCarthy has enough support to remain in charge of the senior county hurling team.

The unrest in Limerick hurling circles has been going on since October when McCarthy dropped a dozen senior squad members, which led to other squad members withdrawing in protest.

McCarthy has already survived one vote of no confidence from the county board in December of last year.

GAA_Punter

Justin McCarthy will stay in charge of the Limerick senior hurlers after defeating a vote of no confidence at a specially-arranged Limerick County Board meeting at Claughaun GAA clubhouse.

http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/03/23/justin-mccarthy-to-stay-on-as-limerick-manager/

orangeman

Quote from: GAA_Punter on March 23, 2010, 08:55:12 PM
Justin McCarthy will stay in charge of the Limerick senior hurlers after defeating a vote of no confidence at a specially-arranged Limerick County Board meeting at Claughaun GAA clubhouse.

http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/03/23/justin-mccarthy-to-stay-on-as-limerick-manager/




Jesus !!!  Big news.

orangeman

Limerick hurling manager Justin McCarthy will remain in his post following a failed vote of no confidence at a county board meeting this evening.

One hundred and thirty-three votes were cast at the meeting. Eighty-three votes were in favour of McCarthy retaining his position. Forty-seven votes were lodged for the motion and McCarthy to leave his role. Two votes were not returned and one vote was spoiled.



Roashter

Was not expecting that, I just assumed that he would be voted out.

Obviously the support for McCarthy is a lot stronger than the media would have us believe, and maybe there is a lot of annoyance with last years players.
It'll be interesting to see if any players make a return.

Fair play to McCarthy for sticking to his guns.

Lecale2

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I'm surprised. I thought he would be away. That's a bigger majority than he had before Christmas.

magickingdom

its a joke mccarthy has lost a significant section of the hurlers and that is a failure of management. its just about ego now, hurling doesn't matter.

Bing Crosby .

I hope that some of the 09 squad show good character and return to the team.