DUBLIN v TYRONE JANUARY 2009 CROKE PARK

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Tyrone Dreamer

Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.

Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.

I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.

Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....

How exactly are the gaa treating you like shite? How much extra is it going to cost you to attend this game than it was if it was in Parnell? They are trying to promote the games and attract as many people as possible to the game (including neutrals) and play it in one of the best stadiums in Europe. How exactly is that effecting you?

Are you serioulsy going to miss a Dublin match because of something Nicky Brennan said? Your going to deprive yourself of seeing Dublin in a big game over his remarks - thats a strange logic - I really cant see how you not going is going to have any impact on Nicky.

Tyrone Dreamer

Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.

Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.

I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.

Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....

I was thinking about your stance again and I'm even more confused now. As a Parnell pass holder dont you get in free for this game anyway? If so then this makes your stance even more ridiculous. If the gaa are only interested in milking you for money do you really think they'll care if you dont turn up when your entitled to a free ticket? Its a bit crazy when you think about it because if they are able to reallocate your ticket (I assume this happens if you dont collect yours) then it means they can make double money for one seat, so they will be more than happy if you guys dont turn up!

Gnevin

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.

Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.

I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.

Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....

How exactly are the gaa treating you like shite? How much extra is it going to cost you to attend this game than it was if it was in Parnell? They are trying to promote the games and attract as many people as possible to the game (including neutrals) and play it in one of the best stadiums in Europe. How exactly is that effecting you?

Are you serioulsy going to miss a Dublin match because of something Nicky Brennan said? Your going to deprive yourself of seeing Dublin in a big game over his remarks - thats a strange logic - I really cant see how you not going is going to have any impact on Nicky.

The GAA have no intention of promoting the league. Last year I didn't see or hear one Ad for the league. When they sell their 70k tickets for this game the league with be put on the back burner as normal.

When it suits the GAA is a stand alone game in January but come August the DCB has to practically beg for a stand alone game. Lets not forget the Friday game Ring cup final they proposed and then had it out side Croker.

Promoting the games, pull the other one will you .
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

Tyrone Dreamer

Quote from: Gnevin on December 29, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.

Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.

I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.

Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....

How exactly are the gaa treating you like shite? How much extra is it going to cost you to attend this game than it was if it was in Parnell? They are trying to promote the games and attract as many people as possible to the game (including neutrals) and play it in one of the best stadiums in Europe. How exactly is that effecting you?

Are you serioulsy going to miss a Dublin match because of something Nicky Brennan said? Your going to deprive yourself of seeing Dublin in a big game over his remarks - thats a strange logic - I really cant see how you not going is going to have any impact on Nicky.

The GAA have no intention of promoting the league. Last year I didn't see or hear one Ad for the league. When they sell their 70k tickets for this game the league with be put on the back burner as normal.

When it suits the GAA is a stand alone game in January but come August the DCB has to practically beg for a stand alone game. Lets not forget the Friday game Ring cup final they proposed and then had it out side Croker.

Promoting the games, pull the other one will you .

Apparently they gave away 25-30,000 free tickets the last day. When you add that to the cost of opening up croke park and the additional entertainment costs then surely they wont be making that much extra out of it all together. This game is about the 125th Anniversary celebrations of the gaa, Dublin should be privelaged to be part of it.

The gaa in recent years have went out of their way to give Dublin stand alone games. Last year when you's got one you's cracked up becasue the Dublin team were geared up to play the previous Saturday - wonder how you's cope with replays when you's need months notice for a match. Even if this is just a one off promotion of the league, how does it mean they are treating you as a supporter like shit? How much extra are you being asked to pay to attend the game? Every county has more than one nominated county ground, Croke Park is a nominated county ground for Dublin were league games have been historically played. Tyrone have used 5 different county grounds this past decade with them being 30 miles apart and I havent heard any objections. Your county board who are in charge of gaa had no objection to the match and therefore it appears neither did the county management.

Tankie

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.

Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.

I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.

Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....

I was thinking about your stance again and I'm even more confused now. As a Parnell pass holder dont you get in free for this game anyway? If so then this makes your stance even more ridiculous. If the gaa are only interested in milking you for money do you really think they'll care if you dont turn up when your entitled to a free ticket? Its a bit crazy when you think about it because if they are able to reallocate your ticket (I assume this happens if you dont collect yours) then it means they can make double money for one seat, so they will be more than happy if you guys dont turn up!

That is why I said in my initial post that i am unsure what to do. I hve been talking to some of the other lads with the pass and if we do not go we will be collecting the tickets but not turning up to the game. I want to give the tickets to some local kids if we dont go but the lads say that defeats the protest so it could be 80k - 7 out on boycott!!!

Also this is nothing about the gaa promoting the league as Gnevin said and as for the 125 celebration i think that's bullshite aswell. its nothing more than the GAA milking the cash cow again where Dublin have to give up a home match!
Grand Slam Saturday!

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 09:43:06 PM
its nothing more than the GAA milking the cash cow again where Dublin have to give up a home match!

OK, so since Croke Park evidently isn't in Dublin, what county is it in, i.e., what county's supporters have a shorter distance to travel to it?
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Tyrone Dreamer

I honestly think I'd have the exact same view if Tyrone weren't involved in this. I'm shocked at the complaints and it really comes across as people complaining for the sake of it. Were you lads also in favour of boycotting the championship match? You's are mugs if you's are going to go out of your way to collect tickets for a game your not going to attend - as I said earlier your stance is stupid enough as it is without you's already having your tickets paid for.

And this craic about it not being a home match is nuts. The ground is a nominated county ground for Dublin and is in Dublin - off course its a home match. Does that mean you's didnt have home matches up until the late 90's when the games were moved from Croke Park?

heffo

Quote from: hardstation on December 29, 2008, 09:45:23 PM
Whoever is behind this protest movement comes across as a sad b**tard.

It's hardly a protest 'movement' - it's an individual supporter exercising his right to not attend the game for the reasons he outlined - all of which I personally agree with.


heffo

Quote from: hardstation on December 29, 2008, 09:58:47 PM
Well Tankie had to go to the "lads" about giving the tickets away to local kids but "that defeats the protest".

Sorry, just re-read Tankie's post - maybe he's taking it a little too far.

I've already posted my opinion on the first couple of pages and amn't going to repeat the reasons I'm against it - if it's the showpiece game of the 125th anniversary, it should involve the two AI finalists.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the game.


Gnevin

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 09:54:30 PM
I honestly think I'd have the exact same view if Tyrone weren't involved in this. I'm shocked at the complaints and it really comes across as people complaining for the sake of it. Were you lads also in favour of boycotting the championship match? You's are mugs if you's are going to go out of your way to collect tickets for a game your not going to attend - as I said earlier your stance is stupid enough as it is without you's already having your tickets paid for.

And this craic about it not being a home match is nuts. The ground is a nominated county ground for Dublin and is in Dublin - off course its a home match. Does that mean you's didnt have home matches up until the late 90's when the games were moved from Croke Park?
Grand since it now  Dublin's home ground ,I assume we now have total control of Croker . So we will get all the revenue for it even when Dublin aren't playing ?
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 12:10:14 AM
Grand since it now  Dublin's home ground ,I assume we now have total control of Croker . So we will get all the revenue for it even when Dublin aren't playing ?

Exactly the same percentage that other counties get when their own counties aren't playing in their grounds, fair enough? Or do you want something special in that respect too?
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Gnevin

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 09:07:00 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on December 29, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.

Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.

I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.

Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....

How exactly are the gaa treating you like shite? How much extra is it going to cost you to attend this game than it was if it was in Parnell? They are trying to promote the games and attract as many people as possible to the game (including neutrals) and play it in one of the best stadiums in Europe. How exactly is that effecting you?

Are you serioulsy going to miss a Dublin match because of something Nicky Brennan said? Your going to deprive yourself of seeing Dublin in a big game over his remarks - thats a strange logic - I really cant see how you not going is going to have any impact on Nicky.

The GAA have no intention of promoting the league. Last year I didn't see or hear one Ad for the league. When they sell their 70k tickets for this game the league with be put on the back burner as normal.

When it suits the GAA is a stand alone game in January but come August the DCB has to practically beg for a stand alone game. Lets not forget the Friday game Ring cup final they proposed and then had it out side Croker.

Promoting the games, pull the other one will you .

Apparently they gave away 25-30,000 free tickets the last day. When you add that to the cost of opening up croke park and the additional entertainment costs then surely they wont be making that much extra out of it all together. This game is about the 125th Anniversary celebrations of the gaa, Dublin should be privelaged to be part of it.

The gaa in recent years have went out of their way to give Dublin stand alone games. Last year when you's got one you's cracked up becasue the Dublin team were geared up to play the previous Saturday - wonder how you's cope with replays when you's need months notice for a match. Even if this is just a one off promotion of the league, how does it mean they are treating you as a supporter like shit? How much extra are you being asked to pay to attend the game? Every county has more than one nominated county ground, Croke Park is a nominated county ground for Dublin were league games have been historically played. Tyrone have used 5 different county grounds this past decade with them being 30 miles apart and I havent heard any objections. Your county board who are in charge of gaa had no objection to the match and therefore it appears neither did the county management.
When it suit you lot it our home ground other times if a Dub has the cheek to suggest its Dublin ground they get run out of town.
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

Gnevin

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on December 30, 2008, 12:14:06 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 12:10:14 AM
Grand since it now  Dublin's home ground ,I assume we now have total control of Croker . So we will get all the revenue for it even when Dublin aren't playing ?

Exactly the same percentage that other counties get when their own counties aren't playing in their grounds, fair enough? Or do you want something special in that respect too?

That is fine since we get 0% now, and of course since it our ground now will we get 100% of the other sports money, the cooperate money and first refusal on fixtures .
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 12:16:32 AM
That is fine since we get 0% now, and of course since it our ground now will we get 100% of the other sports money, the cooperate money and first refusal on fixtures .

How about you all just get over yourselves and just be glad that you have the biggest stadium in the whole country just down the road, closer than anyone else, and one that you all famously fill when Dublin come within a sniff of SAM?
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...