The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[full back]

I asked you who do you rate?

[T Fearon]

Certainly judging on the display the other night, Caldwell and Mc Manus are better than Ferdinand and Vidic, there's no way that Ferdinand and Vidic would have withstood the sustained pressure that Caldwell and Mc Manus were subjected to

[lurganblue]

caldwell is an absolute bombscare... up there with bramble and boomsong IMHO

[full back]

Certainly judging on the display the other night, Caldwell and Mc Manus are better than Ferdinand and Vidic, there's no way that Ferdinand and Vidic would have withstood the sustained pressure that Caldwell and Mc Manus were subjected to

FFS catch a grip of yourself man
Hard to judge Ferdinand & Vidic as the ball hardly crossed the halfway line after 13 mins
They may have played better (they had plenty of chances to shine because of the amount of ball going in) , but there is no way in this world they are better

[T Fearon]

My contention is that Ferdinand and Vidc would not have coped as well with the barrage the other night as Mc Manus and Caldwell did and they are rarely exposed to persistent pressure in any game.

My views on Ferdinand will always be jaundiced since the day back in 2001, when he was playing for Leeds at White Hart Lane, when he was attempting to clear under no pressure but headed straight down to his cousing Les who promptly and gratefully despatched the ball to the Leeds net

[lynchbhoy]

I think Vidic is quite good, and although ferdinand has improved,he's still poor.

Celtics entire def played well, but you have to say that man u were bereft of ideas and had no penetration in the final third.
I dont think Caldwell is great,but he has played well this past number of games, McManus is 100% all action trier, but still a tad limited. Better combo than a lot of epl sides and cl sides. Loovens has looked like he is better than both of them , but is inj right now and as he isnt scottish, would find it hard getting his place ahead of Caldwell.

Interesting question, good centre halves in epl right now
John Terry , carvalho , vidic , Dunne, wes brown, taylor of newcastle , lescott, micah richards,ledley king
and I cant rem who plays for villa but with MON's love of centre halves, he's bound to have a good one.

there are a few good 'modern style' of centre half - Liverpools lads - skrtl and agger are a good example - cant think of who plays at what team inepl, as I am a casual observer...ferdinand would fall into this category, but would be average imo though

I prefer the old style of centre half.

[Chrisowc]

I asked you who do you rate?

I recall he had big things to say about Paul McShane last season.

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Tony cant give an unbiased view af any player never mind a game
If he hasnt spud glasses on he has green & white ones on

Dont go starting any new threads, eh

[Main Street]

There is a grain of truth in Tony's musings on the game.

I thought Celtic could well have held on but when Rooney and Berbatov came on, the odds shifted radically. Just that extra ingredient of unpredictable genius.
I was impressed with Man U over the 2 legs. They strolled the first leg. In Glasgow they worked very hard as a team to choke Celtic in the 2nd half and get the draw. Every Celtic player was closed down in an instant and every option for a pass was covered.

[nifan]

I dislike Man u as much as the next man - but to not rate ferdinand or vidic is mad.


And Lynchbhoy - you accidently put wesley brown in you list of good centre halves! In any case seems evans is the preferred back up at CH now, with wes FB.

Laursen would be your man from AV (they also have Cueller and the mighty Zat Knight)

[reddgnhand]

Cant believe some of the stuff on here. It wasnt a good result, it was an embarrasment for Celtic. The white flag went up before the game even started. Barca, AC Milan,Juve have all came to Celtic park with much better teams than Utd had out on Wednesday night and Celtic at least tried to compete with them. The club is going backwards and its only covered up by the fact Rangers have been so poor the last few seasons.

[lynchbhoy]

I dislike Man u as much as the next man - but to not rate ferdinand or vidic is mad.


And Lynchbhoy - you accidently put wesley brown in you list of good centre halves! In any case seems evans is the preferred back up at CH now, with wes FB.

Laursen would be your man from AV (they also have Cueller and the mighty Zat Knight)

I just think wes brown is great - John oshea is next best imo, but thats just me being biased...
havent seen enough of evans, but hes prob better than ferdinand who I still cannot work out why people think hes good
hes sihte in the air
but he is quick, then again I dont think hes any good at tackling


I'm a centre half nazi by the way - complete old school so I cant/wont rate him or the likes of him (not pushed on liverpools centre halves either).
Laursens not bad but I will have to retract what I said about villa, despite them doing well, none of those are too hot 

[T Fearon]

Good win on Saturday, under the circumstances, but I was disappointed to see Celtic players wearing poppies on their jersies, given the record of the British Forces in Ireland over many centuries. What would Brother Walfrid say?

[Rav67]

Good win on Saturday, under the circumstances, but I was disappointed to see Celtic players wearing poppies on their jersies, given the record of the British Forces in Ireland over many centuries. What would Brother Walfrid say?

"Dr Death" John Reid was apparently at the forefront of pushing for all the Scottish teams to have a poppy on their jersies, I'd say a fair few fans weren't too pleased about it.

As for the centre-half debate, Ferdinand is immense, one of the best 3 or 4 in the world IMO.  Caldwell is the better of Celtic's 2, I can understand some people still criticising him because he used to be a complete bombscare but he's really came on leaps and bounds since around March time and has been Celtic's best defender this season.

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

Celtic's centre half performance is always helped when they play with 4 of them.

Last Wednesday's performance was anti-football on a par with Rangers' UEFA Cup displays last year.