Antrim Hurling

youngfella · October 04, 2008, 12:56:25 PM

Quote from: slow corner back on October 04, 2008, 12:32:27 PM
A good few years ago Armoy were involved in amalgamtions at senior level, normally with Carey and Randalstown It never really got off the ground and we never won a match in the senior championship. Its all fine in theory but in reality you had guys playing and training together who two weeks later would be running through each other in the IHC, rows tended to develop along club lines, our goalies better than yours etc. You ended up with three centre half backs playing and no corner forwards. Good players were shoehorned into positions they did not like to get them on the team. Not sure what the answer is but amalgamations is not a panacea.
By the way am I the only person on here who does not believe that the gorts will be cannon fodder in the SHC. They were in a minor final this year won the IHC and I believe they will win Div 2 next year, they will certainly be in the top two or three. Having watched some of the senior teams this year, Rossa, Ballycastle, St Johns I have to say that the gorts are no worse than a lot of teams in the SHC.

Very good SCB, This a very important stage for the club. THey have to focus on the strong minor team bring them into senior, they will have to work hard to keep boys away from demon drink. I believe they win the div 2 next year (allow glenarrife mite beg to differ with me on that) and should arrange a few challange games against some of the bigger clubs. its in the interest of both clubs to do this. It bring another team up to standard it will further antrim hurling.

milltown row · October 04, 2008, 02:50:38 PM

lads my own team played them when they were unbeaten, i went to watch the game and was asked to play as we were struggling, played the full match and we beat them handy, they were undefeated up till then. says it all. as for competing at senior level don't make me laugh. they would not get a point or get within ten points of any of the teams. took us 5/6 years to get close to teams at senior level. and the year we get 11 points, level with the Johnnies we get relegated

no a good competitive div 2 with teams like Rossa St Galls Tir naOg, Glenariffe, and gorts would.

six teams competing next year at senior, Ballycastle, St Johns, Dunloy, Cushendall, Loughgiel and Gorts (because they won Inter. this year) open draw and they get Loughgiel up there
Minder is right, good minor teams means nothing we had them for years

Assessor · October 04, 2008, 03:02:50 PM

There goes the 'Numbskull' blowing his mouth off again.

How does he propose the County Board can prepare teams better for hurling? What about your vision Numbskull? Such grandiose ideas you are suggesting, yet you want others to take up the gauntlet. This kind of talk is cheap indeed. Why don't you go to the County Website, put it writing or go and meet the County Board and attempt to articulate your ideas and suggestions face face to face. Nah, I don't think so somehow, that would be too manly for ye!

By the way, I see the illiteracy continues to plague you! Capital 'T'' St. Teresa's and Randalstown.

milltown row · October 04, 2008, 03:14:42 PM

proper channels Assessor, ideas need to be voiced at club meetings and proposals sent with the clubs delegates to county meetings were they are voted on. now with your knowledge i'm surprised at ya.

lend me your thoughts on how to improve the standard both club and county in hurling.

PlayWithTheWind · October 04, 2008, 05:14:56 PM

Leinster here we come $:-\$

milltown row · October 04, 2008, 05:18:14 PM

we'll get Galway again in Saltill for sure

sure it will be a great weekend away

Minder · October 04, 2008, 05:29:12 PM

It will be one less excuse for S & W . . . . .

Assessor · October 04, 2008, 11:29:16 PM

Quote from: groundlie on October 04, 2008, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 04, 2008, 03:02:50 PM
There goes the 'Numbskull' blowing his mouth off again.

How does he propose the County Board can prepare teams better for hurling? What about your vision Numbskull? Such grandiose ideas you are suggesting, yet you want others to take up the gauntlet. This kind of talk is cheap indeed. Why don't you go to the County Website, put it writing or go and meet the County Board and attempt to articulate your ideas and suggestions face face to face. Nah, I don't think so somehow, that would be too manly for ye!

By the way, I see the illiteracy continues to plague you! Capital 'T'' St. Teresa's and Randalstown.

Ballbag

Another mouth piece with a limited vocabulary. Seems to me to be a characteristic of this forum and it's posters!

theskull1 · October 04, 2008, 11:49:02 PM

I don't think you're going to get an answer to your question milltown.

Assessor · October 04, 2008, 11:59:35 PM

Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
proper channels Assessor, ideas need to be voiced at club meetings and proposals sent with the clubs delegates to county meetings were they are voted on. now with your knowledge i'm surprised at ya.

lend me your thoughts on how to improve the standard both club and county in hurling.

It will take more than just coaching which seems to be at different levels of intensity throughout the county.

More importatly though. Hurling needs a greater commttiment of resources and development both within Ulster and Chondae Antroim. North Antrim teams will continue to dominate Aontroim and Ulster hurling, as hurling is not treated as secondary in North Antrim. A greater emphasis on football, prevails within the county and throughout Ulster. Football has the higher priority throuhgout Ulster and also within Antrim. It is not a level playing field when it comes to hurling.

Put it this way. Our county has had greater success in hurling than it has ever had in hurling. Look how many hurling All stars we have had compared to football! Look at Loughgiel, Dunloy, Ballycastle, Cushendall and Rossa. They have competed at the top level in hurling within the All Ireland club Hurling championship. Other than Naomh Eoin and Naomh Gall, they are the only clubs who have made the breakthrough at that level.

Put it another way. The Kilkennys, Tipps, Galways, Waterfords, Wexfords, Limericks and Clares of this world dont have the problem we have in terms of the committment to hurling. Because of our dual club/player sceanrio relating to both footbal and hurling in Aontroim and throughout Ulster. Hurling is not treated as secondary in the aforementioned traditional hurling counites. In the same light, football is not treated as secondary within counties such as Tyrone, Kerry, Mayo, Meath and Armagh.

I think within our county playing both codes is detrimental more so to hurling. As long as the hurling fraternity within Antrim and those other Ulster counties who are trying to develop hurling, remain happy with their lot, hurling will continue to be treated secondary and as an inconvenience in both Antrim and Ulster. It is my view, that hurling is are only hope within Aontroim. We have continually competed at the higher level in hurling i.e. Division 1 & 2 National League. Playing in Leinster I believe will enable us to increase the intensity, pace, skill levels and directness of our hurling. It is only having this exposure in Leinster, competing at a higher level among other traditional hurling counties, will we be able to hold our own among the hurling elite. Lets get our u16s, minor and U21s back into Leinster also.

I really think if we as a county want to progress in hurling, it's a case of make your mind up time. Is it going to be hurling or football. It's is my view, that hurling is where our strenghts lie. But others may have a different opinion than me!

Assessor · October 05, 2008, 12:00:20 AM

Quote from: theskull1 on October 04, 2008, 11:49:02 PM
I don't think you're going to get an answer to your question milltown.

Wrong again NUMBSKULL!

theskull1 · October 05, 2008, 12:27:57 AM

Assessor you are a shit stirring nob jockey, who's only agenda is to ruin the standard of this board. It would appear that you are succeeding. They always say never to argue with a fool but it would appear that you've got your axe to grind and won't let it go. I'm not prepared to put up with it any longer.

Minder · October 05, 2008, 12:56:42 AM

Assessor, have we not been playing "traditional" counties for years in the league and championship,what have we learnt? How to seek out the best player and swap their jersey perhaps?

Arthur_Friend · October 05, 2008, 11:03:57 AM

"Another mouth piece with a limited vocabulary. Seems to me to be a characteristic of this forum and it's posters!"

Our you exempt from this sweeping statement, Assessor?

davincicode · October 05, 2008, 11:05:31 AM

TheSkull, i do believe that the Assessor seems to be getting under your skin? Assessor what you say i must agree with to a large extent, however i feel that Ulster Council should take the lions share of the blame, for the state that Hurling is in. Hurling in Ulster is not very PC! When football pulls in on average 8 times the revenue then it becomes a simple question of economics!

Hurling will never improve as long as the people in Armagh are driven by Revenue! Its as straight and simple as that, the GAA in Ulster has never had as many full time paid coaches. Simply look at MC Crory Cup and Magean Cup, Ulster Colleges reflects Ulster Council, they are worse than the Government! At least they shaft you face to face. Too many people involved with their own agendas, look at the St Bridget's scenario! I work with lads attached to this club, its all about money and presence, its worse than the Opus Dea!

Assessor, you have brought a bit of bite to this board, however i would like to see how well you are linked to what happens in Antrim, look at the football thread its dying on its feet.

A lot of lads/lassies post on this board, however i feel the majority take the AL la carte approach, how dirty do most of you get your hands and really get involved at grass root level? What have you done to effect change?