Armagh v Down- 29th June-Ulster Semi Final Thread

[corn02]

regarding Doyle, he had a late fitness test on saturday evening in Derryleckagh playing fields and didnt come through it with much success, he shouldnt have started really, it was a risk i guess and seems it has backfired.

whatever about the management, if our players miss kickable frees, squander numerous scoring opportunities, turn the ball over when in possession, give loopy hospital handpasses, persist in hugging the ball /run into traffic and in general choosing the wrong option nearly 60% of the time then how can you expect to win?

were in no menas up against a good team and thats what makes the defeat all the more galling.

on the other hand if i were an armaghh man i wouldnt be too confident or bullish about long term chances of silverwear based on that performance. Alot of mediocre players on that team and a few passengers too allied to a few older guys that are done doesnt bode well in my eyes. Without Clarke and mc donnell they are mediocre at best. Basically Clarke was the difference yesterday. hard to arugue agaisnt that.

We easily beat a team, playing with 14 men for the half the match, what more do you want?

[T Fearon]

Delightful yesterday, 14 man Armagh beating 16 man Down( have you ever seen a more biased referee?) and all of my predictions coming true... a facile win for Armagh that should have been by a far greater margin and the vastly overrated Coulter anonymous.

Pleasure as always to meet Rufus after the game and as his companion rightly remarked we had forgotten how hate filled and vitriolic Down's supporters were as regards Armagh

[dodgy umpire]

Delightful yesterday, 14 man Armagh beating 16 man Down( have you ever seen a more biased referee?) and all of my predictions coming true... a facile win for Armagh that should have been by a far greater margin and the vastly overrated Coulter anonymous.

Pleasure as always to meet Rufus after the game and as his companion rightly remarked we had forgotten how hate filled and vitriolic Down's supporters were as regards Armagh

down had the referee??? if a man is fouled he diserves a free, armagh fouled and conceeded frees. ive heard of bad loosers but bad winners?

[downgirl]

Delightful yesterday, 14 man Armagh beating 16 man Down( have you ever seen a more biased referee?) and all of my predictions coming true... a facile win for Armagh that should have been by a far greater margin and the vastly overrated Coulter anonymous.

Pleasure as always to meet Rufus after the game and as his companion rightly remarked we had forgotten how hate filled and vitriolic Down's supporters were as regards Armagh

down had the referee??? if a man is fouled he diserves a free, armagh fouled and conceeded frees. ive heard of bad loosers but bad winners?

Well said dodgy umpire!!!!!  they won and they are still complaining...can't please some people sure you can't!

[corn02]

Seem to remembert a lot of Down fans complaing about the ref after you defeated Tyrone in Newry?

[downgirl]

dodgy umpire's point was that if a man is fouled he deserves a free, I was annoyed at the decision in Newry at the end of normal time when a free was awarded against paul mccumiskey when it really wasn't a free...check out this video of the match on you tube especially at about 1:58 it will show you exactly why I and many other Down supporters were annoyed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32oyPdlSfIQ

[corn02]

You said

"They won and they are still complaining..can't please some people sure you can't!"

Just asking you to point out the difference of what Armagh fans are posting about and what you are posting about after Tyrone and how it is ok for Down but not for Armagh? I really can't see a difference but please enlighten me.

[downgirl]

Armagh fans shouldn't have anything to complain about the ref, he wasn't playing for a draw, gave each side cards where and when needed, thought he was decent enough to both sides

[corn02]

Whether we are right or not is not the point.

You made the point about us winning and complaining, I want you to explain the difference between that and what Down ones were saying after the Tyrone match.

[downgirl]

Do you know what corn, forget it ok!!!!

[corn02]

Aha, admission that there is no difference.

[downgirl]

It is not admission, I explained and you were asking me to explain again!!!!!!!  The difference was in the quality of refereeing which is why I said what I said

[corn02]

No you said winning and still complaining.

Armagh won and fans complained...
Down won and fans complained..

No difference, you did not explain, you just pointed out where Down fans had a right. Therefore you are wrong.

[tyroneman]

Once again Tyroneman proves he has no GAA knowledge, good work again. I look forward to you making an idiot of yourself again soon

Based on what exactly Corn?

Armagh failed to win a championship game in 2007.
They failed to get out of Div 2 in 2008.
They were last in an AI final in 2003
What evidence do you derive from beating Cavan and Down that Armagh are AI contenders? As afar as I can see they will cause big teams problems but more than likely fall short come QF / SF time.

Reasonsed and mature post though, espcecially when followed up with:

has the referee gifting them free

any Down man who disagrees with the fact they got soft frees is living in dreamland

Down won very few handy frees in that game. If you watch the replays. If you understand football.

You fail to mention Ronan Clarkes 9-10 steps each and every time he was on the ball. Funny no complaints that the ref failed to give that as a free.

You fail to mention McKeever kneeing Coulter's bandaged leg on the sideline after the ball went out of play. No soft free there either.

You fail to mention the O'Rourkes holding onto jerseys and falling at every opportunity to buy frees.

Armagh are a decent team, with 2 good forwards. They have an excellent defence (although anyone who rates Fin Mo up alongside Andy MAllon is crazy - the 2 are poles apart).

The Rolls Rocye of the Armagh team is not McDonnell or Clarke, or even Oisin. It's Aaron Kernan

Once agin the Down game showed that Armagh's defence wins games. For the amount of posession Armagh had in the first (especially) and second half the tally they racked up was criminal.

A poor Tyrone forward line put up a better score FFS and we were abject in defence and MF.

I'd be delighted if you could point out my deficeit of GAA knowledge though. Or if you want to have a proper discourse, feel free. I'd appreciate less of the patronising though, son.

I normally get great value out of debating football with my Armagh neighbours, shame you can't lose your arrogant streak long enough.

Having seen your discourse with Downgirl though being called an idiot by you just might be alright.............................

[corn02]

Thanks for proving my point.