Man Utd Thread:

[Blowitupref]

Going by reports it Looks like Carrick will be kept on until the international break at least?

Chelsea (A) Roma (H) Aston Villa (H)

Then Liverpool (A) for the new manager?

Went as reported.  As it turned out those in charge didn't use the two weeks to approach a replacement and instead waited until after the Aston Villa game to ask a manager during the international who is managing a international team did he want to become Carricks replacement. A manager they previously didn't want and could have got him for free during the summer.

[NAG1]

Going by reports it Looks like Carrick will be kept on until the international break at least?

Chelsea (A) Roma (H) Aston Villa (H)

Then Liverpool (A) for the new manager?

Went as reported.  As it turned out those in charge didn't use the two weeks to approach a replacement and instead waited until after the Aston Villa game to ask a manager during the international who is managing a international team did he want to become Carricks replacement. A manager they previously didn't want and could have got him for free during the summer.

Looks like Poch is going to lead the US team for their games this weekend and join the squad early next week.

[gawa316]

Shocking way to treat Carrick...unbelievable how they are still so inept on dealing with major decisions

[Cunny Funt]

Leaving Michael Carrick twisting in the wind until Thursday before finally dismissing him is an absolute disgrace.

The writing was clearly on the wall following the Bournemouth defeat, yet the hierarchy stalled until the international break purely to source a replacement settling on an appointment that feels entirely underwhelming.

Compounding this is a catastrophic summer transfer window that left the squad devoid of a natural backup striker or left-back, begging the question: how has Jason Wilcox escaped accountability?

It is the same pervasive incompetence from top to bottom.Anyone still harbouring doubts about how dysfunctional this club has become need look no further than the orchestration of this entire saga.

Furthermore, the notion that one 'cannot see a world where United are relegated' defies logic; few sides that eventually drop are in as much turmoil on and off the pitch as United currently are.

As Seanie rightly pointed out, the team can manufacture chances as well as anyone, yet remain chronically wasteful in front of goal.

Defensively, they are porous, fragile, and plagued by individual errors, compounded by a goalkeeper whose form has regressed drastically since last season, there is no quick fix.


Anfield will be the new managers 1st match a venue where his last managerial appearance ended in a 4-1 beating and anything less than another three goal margin of defeat will come as a genuine surprise.

[tiempo]

I'm sorry but I have to challenge this narrative. Downing tools, not running enough, not responding to the manager - this is simply not true.

Someone ridiculed stats earlier but I'll have a go anyway. Unlike the majority of discourse around United these are rooted in fact.

United have taken the most shots at goal in the Premier League this season by a distance - 193, Brighton second with 169. Ok - you might say they're shooting from bad positions and this might be true. In terms of shots outside the box they lead by a big margin. So if we look at shots from open play inside the box - United are second only to Manchester City. Last season under Carrick United scored 1 in 7 of those shots. The league average is around 1 in 8. This season - United score 1 in almost 12 of those shots. Last season from shots inside the box Sesko scored 11, Mbuemo scored 10. This season it is 2 and 1 respectively (from 22 and 4 shots). (source Akbasfootball on instagram and OptaAnalyst theanalyst.com )

Surely a reasonable conclusion is that with Sesko (the only senior striker/number 9 at the club) mostly unavailable forcing Mbuemo to play out of position - chance conversion has suffered. Still creating opportunities but not converting. Have hit the woodwork the most of any team in the league. Fernandes has 4 goals from 31 shots including 2 penalties. Amad no goals from 12 shots.

Casemiro's goals from set pieces last season not replaced. United one of the worst in the league at creating chances from set pieces - and fair enough, that can be partly laid at the door of the manager.

On top of the misses there have been some dreadful individual errors leading to goals conceded. Some caused by players playing out of position (Dalot, Yoro a couple of weeks ago) and a drop in form (Lammens).

1 million % reckon Carrick has been very unlucky and isn't a bad gaffer, whats wrong with being The Entertainers for a few years, his teams attack, his team score goals, don't they say scoring is the most difficult thing in fitbaw?

[snoopdog]

Carrick should never have been given the job in 1st place. He was dreadful at boro in the Championship.  He had one game a week sometimesn2 weeks last season. And in some of those games you could see he wasnt up to the task. Newcastle, everon Leeds to name a few.
Evwn if he was an ex player im glad he is gone. And no it wont fix the issues as the owners are still there but Poch wont be any wprse that Carrick.
Carrick wasnt unlucky he was lucky there were enough fools in charge above him who thought it a good idea to give him the job.

[AustinPowers]

Pochettino officially confirmed. On Friday 13th , no less 

So how long will it  be until that shower of useless hoors get him  sacked?

I'll say January 2028.

[Armagh18]

Right now we have a fairly experienced manager with a decent track record, time to back him and make it clear to the players any f**king about or generally being shite means you're out the door or left to play reserves.

Give him time and money to spend. If the players who have been there since before 2022 aren't gone this summer they'll have the manager gone in 2 years from now.

[Captain Obvious]

Carrick should never have been given the job in 1st place. He was dreadful at boro in the Championship.  He had one game a week sometimesn2 weeks last season. And in some of those games you could see he wasnt up to the task. Newcastle, everon Leeds to name a few.
Evwn if he was an ex player im glad he is gone. And no it wont fix the issues as the owners are still there but Poch wont be any wprse that Carrick.
Carrick wasnt unlucky he was lucky there were enough fools in charge above him who thought it a good idea to give him the job.

To be fair, Michael Carrick arrived as a caretaker and earned his permanent contract. The real blunder by the hierarchy was gambling on a stubborn, unproven rookie from Portugal to begin with, had they appointed a more suitable successor to Erik ten Hag, the Carrick scenario would never have arisen.

As for the current incumbent, he is vastly overrated and far better suited to an environment devoid of intense pressure and relentless scrutiny. That said, I thought he was brilliant in Gladiator. Are you not entertained?

[Milltown Row2]

The standards across the board are poor, they have an ok team, a mid table team standard at the minute (though 18th), should be competing for domestic cups, and trying for a top 5, they have a sprinkling of quality players but can't gel, they haven't pushed on from last year and the other teams have improved a lot..

I'd settle for a team that has a decent plan/formation/tactic to steady the the ship and lets see how good Poch thinks he is when in the changing rooms of Utd

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Carrick should never have been given the job in 1st place. He was dreadful at boro in the Championship.  He had one game a week sometimesn2 weeks last season. And in some of those games you could see he wasnt up to the task. Newcastle, everon Leeds to name a few.
Evwn if he was an ex player im glad he is gone. And no it wont fix the issues as the owners are still there but Poch wont be any wprse that Carrick.
Carrick wasnt unlucky he was lucky there were enough fools in charge above him who thought it a good idea to give him the job.

To be fair, Michael Carrick arrived as a caretaker and earned his permanent contract. The real blunder by the hierarchy was gambling on a stubborn, unproven rookie from Portugal to begin with, had they appointed a more suitable successor to Erik ten Hag, the Carrick scenario would never have arisen.

As for the current incumbent, he is vastly overrated and far better suited to an environment devoid of intense pressure and relentless scrutiny. That said, I thought he was brilliant in Gladiator. Are you not entertained?

Amorim arguably has had pound for pound a more impressive coaching career than Poch so far - Still think Poch will be good appointment though.

[Armagh18]

Carrick should never have been given the job in 1st place. He was dreadful at boro in the Championship.  He had one game a week sometimesn2 weeks last season. And in some of those games you could see he wasnt up to the task. Newcastle, everon Leeds to name a few.
Evwn if he was an ex player im glad he is gone. And no it wont fix the issues as the owners are still there but Poch wont be any wprse that Carrick.
Carrick wasnt unlucky he was lucky there were enough fools in charge above him who thought it a good idea to give him the job.

To be fair, Michael Carrick arrived as a caretaker and earned his permanent contract. The real blunder by the hierarchy was gambling on a stubborn, unproven rookie from Portugal to begin with, had they appointed a more suitable successor to Erik ten Hag, the Carrick scenario would never have arisen.

As for the current incumbent, he is vastly overrated and far better suited to an environment devoid of intense pressure and relentless scrutiny. That said, I thought he was brilliant in Gladiator. Are you not entertained?

Amorim arguably has had pound for pound a more impressive coaching career than Poch so far - Still think Poch will be good appointment though.

Ffs I thought it was Tiempo posted this on a wind up!

As much as I liked Amorim he was horrific results wise.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Carrick should never have been given the job in 1st place. He was dreadful at boro in the Championship.  He had one game a week sometimesn2 weeks last season. And in some of those games you could see he wasnt up to the task. Newcastle, everon Leeds to name a few.
Evwn if he was an ex player im glad he is gone. And no it wont fix the issues as the owners are still there but Poch wont be any wprse that Carrick.
Carrick wasnt unlucky he was lucky there were enough fools in charge above him who thought it a good idea to give him the job.

To be fair, Michael Carrick arrived as a caretaker and earned his permanent contract. The real blunder by the hierarchy was gambling on a stubborn, unproven rookie from Portugal to begin with, had they appointed a more suitable successor to Erik ten Hag, the Carrick scenario would never have arisen.

As for the current incumbent, he is vastly overrated and far better suited to an environment devoid of intense pressure and relentless scrutiny. That said, I thought he was brilliant in Gladiator. Are you not entertained?

Amorim arguably has had pound for pound a more impressive coaching career than Poch so far - Still think Poch will be good appointment though.

Ffs I thought it was Tiempo posted this on a wind up!

As much as I liked Amorim he was horrific results wise.

Hard to defend the results although the team was on an upward trend when he was sacked - squad was threadbare with injuries and AFCON.

Squad culture had improved - team was fitter and worked harder - data was trending in the right direction. (there's no doubting it was a very slow burner though)

But fans don't have the patience for the long term rebuild that is required.

Wont be a quick fix under Poch either but fans will have to be patient.

[Blowitupref]

Pochettino officially confirmed. On Friday 13th , no less 

So how long will it  be until that shower of useless hoors get him  sacked?

I'll say January 2028.

The 18th of November before he officially becomes manager which suggests either him or those in charge has already wrote off game one against Liverpool.

He was crying in the USA press conference today, looks little too emotional for the huge task ahead of him.

[Captain Obvious]

Amorim arguably has had pound for pound a more impressive coaching career than Poch so far - Still think Poch will be good appointment though.

You appear to be influenced by Ruben Amorim's online apologists; slick soundbites and sugar coated narratives carry zero currency in a ruthless, results driven business


Finishing 15th in the league and losing a European final against Tottenham was more than enough to earn him the sack. Failing to include a European qualification clause in his contract was absolute negligence by the hierarchy.


While his eventual dismissal was triggered by speaking out, the underlying metrics were already damning: just eight wins from twenty league fixtures alongside an embarrassing League Cup exit. With Michael Carrick's tenure opening against Manchester City and Arsenal, can anyone seriously suggest those fixtures would have yielded anything other than two defeats had he remained at the helm?


His managerial credentials rested primarily on domestic success in the Portuguese Primeira Liga, a division whose overall competitive depth, outside of its top three clubs, scarcely surpasses the English Championship.


Michael Carrick got a contract for winning 12 of his 17 games last season and got sacked for struggling to win games this season.

While I do not rate Mauricio Pochettino particularly highly, his CV at least boasts proven Premier League experience, consistent Champions League qualification, and had one good Champions league campaign with reaching the final, albeit achieved in a far lower-pressure environment devoid of the relentless global scrutiny that defines Manchester United.

Pochettino has been handed a two-and-a-half-year contract, though it would come as a genuine surprise if he actually sees out the entirety of that term.