Man Utd Thread:

[Blowitupref]

Seanie do you hand on heart think anyone who consistently plays Dalot, brought back Rashford into the team and just stands on the sidelines saying nothing is fit for the job. I've seen him shout instructions once since he took over. It's constantly back to his team to review the goals they concede. He makes changes about 15 minutes after they are needed. He is out of his depth.

Pochettino in his last full Premier League season with Chelsea they conceded 63 goals so with bare defensive options that doesn't suggest things will suddenly improve at United under him.

[snoopdog]

They want to pick up Leon Goretzka FOC, then slap £85m down and test Palace resolve for Wharton and the same for MLS of Arsenal

If they picked up Goretzka and either of Wharton/MLS for £85m combined that would be savage business

Typical Utd, a 70 cap German international pitches up at Villa on free transfer and scores at OT while £50m Andrey Santos sits on the bench

Big business needed in January

In
Lewis Hall
Nathan Collins
Jarrod Bowen

Out tay feck
The Argentine winge
Rashford
Big Hershe

It seems the board pay  huge money for these players hoping to prove  to fans that we're "doing something". £50m Baleba and Santos. Like wtf?

 As you say , there are bargains  out there if you look  hard enough.

Nathan Collins ? He isnas bad if not worse that what we have.

[Milltown Row2]

I think if Utd bought Brighton, lock and stock and changed their tops from blue to red they'd fail

[magpie seanie]

Seanie do you hand on heart think anyone who consistently plays Dalot, brought back Rashford into the team and just stands on the sidelines saying nothing is fit for the job. I've seen him shout instructions once since he took over. It's constantly back to his team to review the goals they concede. He makes changes about 15 minutes after they are needed. He is out of his depth.

Dalot - being played out of position at left back. He was shaky at right back but has been woeful at left back. He's not good enough but alternatives are few and far between. Throwing a young player in might appease the fans but might f**k the young lad up. And honestly - even for Dalot who I've watched for many years - the recent mistakes are extraordinary and more frequent.

Rashford - "he brought him back". A bit disingenuous. To be clear - Rashford had a decent season last year for Barcelona but they opted to spend 60m on Gordon rather than 30m on Rashford. Nobody else was biting and obviously United needed more first team players. Rashford played reasonably well in that first portion of the season despite having a knock. Got picked by Tuchel to go back into England squad and I think Rashford had created a number of chances, a couple that were amazingly not converted. He is now out trying to get his injury sorted. What negatives have there been to him coming back? I have heard nothing.

Stands on sidelines and says nothing - Are you serious about this one? Loads of managers in many sports are like this.

Pretty weak arguments to say he's out of his depth. Dalot played a lot last year when they won lots of games and I don't think Carrick shouted more.


From observing and it is backed up by stats - United are doing reasonably ok (relative to where they sit) in general play but giving up crazy goals due to lapses, bad set piece defending (mostly on second balls/clearances that aren't good enough). Yes there have been some brutal performances but a lot of days have been just an inability to put the ball in the net (striker needed) and poor goals (lads playing out of position/chopping and changing/inexperience).

I'm not laying much of the blame at Carrick's door. The last 20 odd years of this ownership has made it blatantly clear this is an almost impossible job.

As for Pochettino - his record is patchy to say the least. He certainly will not improve things.

[AustinPowers]

Never mind Dalot. That Yoro tube isn't much better. Two  brutal mistakes for two of Villa's goals.

[gerrykeegan]

Backed up by stats! I'll give you one, they give up .14 of a goal every time their opponents attack. Worst in the league. United are a mess at the back. Their goalkeeper now lacks confidence. Surely that lies with the manager. I genuinely like the guy but I maintain he's out of his depth and will never manage another premier league club.
I can't agree about Rashford he's a cancer to the football club and should be told to f**k off.

I wouldn't be certain about Poch either by the way.

[Baile Brigín 2]

They want to pick up Leon Goretzka FOC, then slap £85m down and test Palace resolve for Wharton and the same for MLS of Arsenal

If they picked up Goretzka and either of Wharton/MLS for £85m combined that would be savage business

Typical Utd, a 70 cap German international pitches up at Villa on free transfer and scores at OT while £50m Andrey Santos sits on the bench

Big business needed in January

In
Lewis Hall
Nathan Collins
Jarrod Bowen

Out tay feck
The Argentine winge
Rashford
Big Hershe

It seems the board pay  huge money for these players hoping to prove  to fans that we're "doing something". £50m Baleba and Santos. Like wtf?

 As you say , there are bargains  out there if you look  hard enough.

Clubs know United have deep pockets and charge accordingly. The man on the committee with the MBA is told to get the player and does. Not his money.

Will United fans accept three years of bargains to reintroduce a hunger culture?

[tiempo]

Wouldn't be in a hurry to sack a manager who has the team scoring goals

Why not be The Entertainers for a few years

Fergie was knocking 1.85 goals a game, OGS 1.83, Carrick next best at 1.78 and working with a busted flush

The man is fundamentally overperforming and being crucified for it

Surely the commercial team can sort a stadium naming deal to back this man, Rentokil Old Trafford? Get rid of the local infestation and let Wilcox loose with the cheque book, 2 birds 1 stone

[AustinPowers]

They want to pick up Leon Goretzka FOC, then slap £85m down and test Palace resolve for Wharton and the same for MLS of Arsenal

If they picked up Goretzka and either of Wharton/MLS for £85m combined that would be savage business

Typical Utd, a 70 cap German international pitches up at Villa on free transfer and scores at OT while £50m Andrey Santos sits on the bench

Big business needed in January

In
Lewis Hall
Nathan Collins
Jarrod Bowen

Out tay feck
The Argentine winge
Rashford
Big Hershe

It seems the board pay  huge money for these players hoping to prove  to fans that we're "doing something". £50m Baleba and Santos. Like wtf?

 As you say , there are bargains  out there if you look  hard enough.

Clubs know United have deep pockets and charge accordingly. The man on the committee with the MBA is told to get the player and does. Not his money.

Will United fans accept three years of bargains to reintroduce a hunger culture?

Seamus Coleman is without a club. Would  he do any worse than Dalot, Yoro  or  Shaw,  on a short term contract?

[gawa316]

The Oracle that is Indy is posting the owners are looking to sell!

[Armagh18]

They want to pick up Leon Goretzka FOC, then slap £85m down and test Palace resolve for Wharton and the same for MLS of Arsenal

If they picked up Goretzka and either of Wharton/MLS for £85m combined that would be savage business

Typical Utd, a 70 cap German international pitches up at Villa on free transfer and scores at OT while £50m Andrey Santos sits on the bench

Big business needed in January

In
Lewis Hall
Nathan Collins
Jarrod Bowen

Out tay feck
The Argentine winge
Rashford
Big Hershe

It seems the board pay  huge money for these players hoping to prove  to fans that we're "doing something". £50m Baleba and Santos. Like wtf?

 As you say , there are bargains  out there if you look  hard enough.

Clubs know United have deep pockets and charge accordingly. The man on the committee with the MBA is told to get the player and does. Not his money.

Will United fans accept three years of bargains to reintroduce a hunger culture?

Seamus Coleman is without a club. Would  he do any worse than Dalot, Yoro  or  Shaw,  on a short term contract?

He'd be a no brainer for me. Even if he didn't play much he'd be a super leader in that dressing room which is sorely lacking them. Times are bad when the leaders of the team are the petulant child Bruno, Dalot the dipstick and Harry Maguire the specialist in failure (harsh on Harry as I do like him and he's one of the few that can't be questioned for effort and commitment) 

[tiempo]

He'd be a no brainer for me. Even if he didn't play much he'd be a super leader in that dressing room which is sorely lacking them. Times are bad when the leaders of the team are the petulant child Bruno, Dalot the dipstick and Harry Maguire the specialist in failure (harsh on Harry as I do like him and he's one of the few that can't be questioned for effort and commitment)

Agree, absolutely wild that he should have been the first signing of the post Fergie era and 13 years later would still start for Utd

In terms of building a culture he should have been signed, but Wilcox and Berrada are 100% clueless, to the point i genuinely think they might be undercover agents on behalf of City-corp

[An Watcher]

I think Seamus was very close to becoming a united player at one stage.  A leg break scuppered that potential deal n Everton subsequently gave him a 5 year deal

[Blowitupref]

So post Man United since 2013.

David Ornstein on Pochettino

"In 2024, When Ten Hag's job was on the line, Manchester United spoke to Pochettino. I did not hear the best feedback from how it went.
"I was told they were a little underwhelmed.. regarding his coaching at the time, his hunger, his work rate. They ended up taking Tuchel and De Zerbi as the 'final two' and ultimately gave Ten Hag a new contract.
"There have been a number of occasions of this Pochettino consideration. It's quite remarkable to think they could have taken him for free this summer.
"They had a vacancy because Michael Carrick was only interim, they felt Carrick could earn the permanent job and clearly did not think Pochettino was the man then.
"If they turn to him now they will have to pay around £7M for his release clause with the USA National Team, a few million more for staff, then his salary, plus the cost of removing Carrick and his staff.
"A very expensive decision not to go with him in the summer if they go with him now."

[laoislad]

Arne Slot is free lads...