Clerical abuse!

Started by D4S, May 20, 2009, 05:09:14 PM

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We all know this disgusting scandal is as a result of The Church and The State, but who do you hold mostly accountable, and should therefore pay out the most in compensation to victims?

The State
The Church
Split 50/50

lurganblue


RedHand88

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Rte documentary  monday  Redess  - Breaking the Silence --  excellent program.
In the pre program titles was the announcement that if you were upset by this program,  help lines were available.
But what for the people who were not upset by this program?

That was a powerful documentary. Shame on Fianna Fáil, shame on the Catholic Church.
I have just watched the 2nd part,  the documentary (both parts)  is an outstanding achievement, one of the best I have ever seen. I had not realised what a  sham the redress boards and the various reports were for all those who were abused. The status quo certainly rallied to protect the church and deny the voice of the abused.

A person very close to me was in one of these homes until she was 6. She says she wasn't treated to badly ( even though they used to punish her by sticking needles into her body) and that the older children were treated way worse than she was. She received compensation, she donated it back to a Catholic charity because as she says she wasn't treated as badly as the others. The Catholic charity took her money without even asking where it had come from, she didn't have a penny to her name at the time.

Ffs.

dec

I don't suppose there are a lot of Belfast Telegraph subscribers on here but if anyone can access the full text of this article could they post it

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/clerical-abuse-at-st-colmans-the-fear-was-constant-never-knowing-when-the-next-beating-would-be-41459985.html

Clerical abuse at St Colman's: 'The fear was constant, never knowing when the next beating would be

One of the victims of paedophile priest Fr Malachy Finegan opens up about the abuse he suffered
March 18 2022 06:00 AM

They were the elite of Catholic society, the sons of doctors, solicitors, and wealthy business families.
Many of the pupils had close links to the Church, priests, nuns and even bishops were common among the extended families of the boys who boarded at St Colman's College in Newry...

Average Score

I am sure it will be nice and balanced written by Allison Morris.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Average Score on March 21, 2022, 01:00:01 PM
I am sure it will be nice and balanced written by Allison Morris.

What sort of balance are you looking for? "the lad deserved it"?  "They were cheeky shites so I gave them a slap" Or he didn't mean to sexually abuse him?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

dec

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/malachy-finegan-victim-to-receive-500000-in-damages-2E5YMVJ325E6RBXFFAYONXVUW4/

December 21, 2023 at 1:48PM GMT

A man who claimed a paedophile priest subjected him to years of sexual and physical abuse at a Co Down school is to receive £500,000 in damages, the High Court has heard.
The settlement was reached in an action over alleged historical assaults by the late Fr Malachy Finegan.
The plaintiff, who is not being named, sued the Diocese of Dromore and the board of governors at St Colman's College in Newry.
Proceedings centred on alleged attacks on him over a five year period while a pupil at the school during the 1980s.
A statement of claim said he was targeted and groomed by Finegan for the purposes of an abusive sexual, physical and emotional relationship.

He was sexually assaulted in a series of locations, including the vestry, priests' corridor and lounge, the nuns' chapel and the President's business office, according to court papers.
Finegan also allegedly choked the plaintiff, punched and slapped him on multiple occasions, and threatened him not to make any disclosure.
Lawyers for the man said he believes the priest surreptitiously put vodka in his fizzy drink before molesting him.
He lived in constant fear during his time as a student at the college, became suicidal and even considered burning down the priests' chapel.
It was alleged that the assaults became less frequent when Finegan moved on to abuse a younger boy as a replacement.

Since leaving the school the plaintiff has spent several years unable to work due to his psychological injuries and trauma.
The case is one of a number of actions focused on the activities of Finegan.
He taught and worked at St Colman's College from 1967 to 1987, spending the last decade as the school's president. The priest, who died on 2002, was accused of a long campaign of child sexual abuse but never prosecuted or questioned by police about claims made against him.
In 2018 it emerged that the Diocese of Dromore had settled a previous claim made by one of his alleged victims. At that stage the Board of Governors at St Colman's condemned the physical, sexual and emotional abuse inflicted by Finegan while he worked there. His image was also removed from the school's photographs.
Legal action against the defendants involved claims for negligence, assault, battery and trespass to the person.

In court on Thursday, counsel for the plaintiff, David Ringland KC, announced that his client is to receive £500,000 damages plus costs under the terms of the resolution.
No admission of liability was made by the defendants.
Outside court the man's solicitor, Claire McKeegan of Phoenix Law, said: "This settlement is a welcome vindication for our client who was repeatedly sexually abused as a young boy by the former president of St Colmans College.
"Malachy Finegan was a priest of the Catholic Church who resided in the college. For three decades he acted under the protective cloak of the church."
Ms McKeegan added: "For children like my client, there was no escape from his campaign of terror.
"The pain and suffering is lifelong for children who have been violated in this grotesque manner by those in positions of trust."

gallsman

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckpdgqp03z4yo

Bastards are still at it. Don't ever let anyone try to convince you that this is an issue that only existed in the past.

Look-Up!

Quote from: gallsman on October 05, 2026, 01:53:32 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckpdgqp03z4yo

Bastards are still at it. Don't ever let anyone try to convince you that this is an issue that only existed in the past.
Nor only an issue that existed in the Catholic Church for that matter. BBC and British Government more than their fair share of skeletons. Or what's happening across the pond with Epstein. Cover up right in front of our eyes.

johnnycool

Quote from: gallsman on October 05, 2026, 01:53:32 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckpdgqp03z4yo

Bastards are still at it. Don't ever let anyone try to convince you that this is an issue that only existed in the past.

Not a lot of detail in that report, but if the Catholic Church didn't ship him off elsewhere to continue his evilness once they found it, then that's progress.

Himself and Jeffrey can read the bible together.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Look-Up! on October 05, 2026, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 05, 2026, 01:53:32 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckpdgqp03z4yo

Bastards are still at it. Don't ever let anyone try to convince you that this is an issue that only existed in the past.
Nor only an issue that existed in the Catholic Church for that matter. BBC and British Government more than their fair share of skeletons. Or what's happening across the pond with Epstein. Cover up right in front of our eyes.
We didn't give Epstein schools and hospitals to run

JoG2

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 06, 2026, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 05, 2026, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 05, 2026, 01:53:32 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckpdgqp03z4yo

Bastards are still at it. Don't ever let anyone try to convince you that this is an issue that only existed in the past.
Nor only an issue that existed in the Catholic Church for that matter. BBC and British Government more than their fair share of skeletons. Or what's happening across the pond with Epstein. Cover up right in front of our eyes.
We didn't give Epstein schools and hospitals to run

Just put the names of the Epstein class on schools and hospital wings

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: JoG2 on October 06, 2026, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 06, 2026, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 05, 2026, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 05, 2026, 01:53:32 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckpdgqp03z4yo

Bastards are still at it. Don't ever let anyone try to convince you that this is an issue that only existed in the past.
Nor only an issue that existed in the Catholic Church for that matter. BBC and British Government more than their fair share of skeletons. Or what's happening across the pond with Epstein. Cover up right in front of our eyes.
We didn't give Epstein schools and hospitals to run

Just put the names of the Epstein class on schools and hospital wings
My point is the church don't get a pass because of Epstien

DaleCooper

Epstein and his pals have power the church could only dream about...so a fairly stupid comparison.

They own all NHS data, access all your financial records with power to "debank", run the helplines for vulnerable kids and a laundry list of other things.

trileacman

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 06, 2026, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 05, 2026, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 05, 2026, 01:53:32 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckpdgqp03z4yo

Bastards are still at it. Don't ever let anyone try to convince you that this is an issue that only existed in the past.
Nor only an issue that existed in the Catholic Church for that matter. BBC and British Government more than their fair share of skeletons. Or what's happening across the pond with Epstein. Cover up right in front of our eyes.
We didn't give Epstein schools and hospitals to run

Didn't they found all those schools and hospitals themselves? "We" didn't give them anything. Before that there wasn't schools or hospitals catering to the lower classes of soceity.
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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: trileacman on October 06, 2026, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 06, 2026, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 05, 2026, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 05, 2026, 01:53:32 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckpdgqp03z4yo

Bastards are still at it. Don't ever let anyone try to convince you that this is an issue that only existed in the past.
Nor only an issue that existed in the Catholic Church for that matter. BBC and British Government more than their fair share of skeletons. Or what's happening across the pond with Epstein. Cover up right in front of our eyes.
We didn't give Epstein schools and hospitals to run

Didn't they found all those schools and hospitals themselves? "We" didn't give them anything. Before that there wasn't schools or hospitals catering to the lower classes of soceity.
Of course they didn't. They don't pay staff either. They were handed state schools to run.