Antrim Football Thread

[paddyjohn]

I'm going to say it.

If you think you can do better, there's a shortage of referees and I'm sure could all do with your expertise.

I agree but refs need to be held accountable for their decisions. Those penalties at the weekend were shameful to award.

[Spike]

The standard isn't great but the level of abuse is getting worse. Some refs don't help themselves though until players,  management, officials and supporters calm it down there wont be a large uptake

[PólAointroim]

My point was not an intentional attack on referees. They are not to blame largely, they must be being let down by the county and the administration. There are a fair few referees in Antrim (or there were) who when reffing you didnt leave the field talking about which is what the game needs. Why they are not involved is beyond me.

On the point of abusing referees, a moot point for me as I have no dog in the fight at senior. I disagree with it but as you say Spike, its arguably worse than ever.

[Ghost+Tommy]

Sorry Antrim but the old bite back all the time is,if you think you can do better take it up bullshit,when you have Toland as the head off refs it say it all,Sunday in corrigan there was a clear strike in front off him and Tumelty by Mc Crossan,they had a wee chat and somehow came up with a black card instead off red,a pull down one in extra time in front off the the pair,instead off black they give a yellow,pg1 no 19 booked,straight away makes the next foul,around the neck,no second yellow,thats only 3 I could go on,bring refs in from outside the county if you have to,the stuff these fools let go and then you wonder why antrim teams dont get decisions in ulster

[NAG1]

Sorry Antrim but the old bite back all the time is,if you think you can do better take it up bullshit,when you have Toland as the head off refs it say it all,Sunday in corrigan there was a clear strike in front off him and Tumelty by Mc Crossan,they had a wee chat and somehow came up with a black card instead off red,a pull down one in extra time in front off the the pair,instead off black they give a yellow,pg1 no 19 booked,straight away makes the next foul,around the neck,no second yellow,thats only 3 I could go on,bring refs in from outside the county if you have to,the stuff these fools let go and then you wonder why antrim teams dont get decisions in ulster

Some bullshit talked on here but this is up there with any of it.

How do you think all the games at all grades go ahead, it's with these guys going out there and reffing them.

We can all have our gripes and views but there is no need to be going for individuals who are facilitating our games.

Bring in outside referees...where are you getting them from? if every county goes with that attitude there wont be referees anywhere.

[inabsentia]

Is naming it 1B just to soften the egos that they aren't in Div 2?

we need an 8 team championship. perhaps 10 to give a chance to an intermediate team coming up.  it cant go on like it is, the hard decision should have been made to put all of those clubs in the champ relegation battle into the intermediate championship.

Agree with div 2 and the egos, but an 8 team div 1 would throw it all out of whack.

34 clubs.

10, 12, 11

Realistically teams that are at that top level are:

Cargin
Creggan
Dunloy
Brigids
Johnnies
LD
Aghagallon
PG1
St Galls

And on the day either:
Ballymena
Rossa

There's a step down to:
Moneyglass
St Pauls
Randalstown
Sarsfields
Glenravel

That middle pack in intermediate would do far better being strengthened. Drop Aggies, Comgalls, Davitts and Lisburn all down.

[SaffronSports]

There absolutely needs to be a change. Far too many senior clubs in Antrim but it has to be done right. That means decoupling league and championship and telling teams before competitions start what the rules are so you're looking at 2028 at the earliest

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Sorry Antrim but the old bite back all the time is,if you think you can do better take it up bullshit,when you have Toland as the head off refs it say it all,Sunday in corrigan there was a clear strike in front off him and Tumelty by Mc Crossan,they had a wee chat and somehow came up with a black card instead off red,a pull down one in extra time in front off the the pair,instead off black they give a yellow,pg1 no 19 booked,straight away makes the next foul,around the neck,no second yellow,thats only 3 I could go on,bring refs in from outside the county if you have to,the stuff these fools let go and then you wonder why antrim teams dont get decisions in ulster

Some bullshit talked on here but this is up there with any of it.

How do you think all the games at all grades go ahead, it's with these guys going out there and reffing them.

We can all have our gripes and views but there is no need to be going for individuals who are facilitating our games.

Bring in outside referees...where are you getting them from? if every county goes with that attitude there wont be referees anywhere.

Are we convinced the refs in other counties are any better than our own?
Looking at the Tyrone thread, they are giving off stink at the standard of reffing in their championship.
Moaning about the ref has just become part of the game I think.

[BigGreenField]

Pop at ref's all day but the standard of football was crap for what is the top 8 teams in the county.

Cargin turned in a half decent performance with one or two players making the entrance fee worthwhile.

Outside of that it was dross.

Complaints would be better directed in-house to club coaches as to what they are teaching players over 20 years.

Incidentally if a referee reports excessive abuse at a match both clubs should forfeit home advantage for next number of scheduled games, mistakes are made but the abuse has to stop and manners need applied. Paying a couple of quid at the gate gives no licence to act the maggot.

[AllStar15]

The Rossa result (and last weekends matches) makes me itch for a straight knockout again from the get-go.

It's hard to beat the do or die of proper championship.

[PólAointroim]

Pop at ref's all day but the standard of football was crap for what is the top 8 teams in the county.

Cargin turned in a half decent performance with one or two players making the entrance fee worthwhile.

Outside of that it was dross.

Complaints would be better directed in-house to club coaches as to what they are teaching players over 20 years.

Incidentally if a referee reports excessive abuse at a match both clubs should forfeit home advantage for next number of scheduled games, mistakes are made but the abuse has to stop and manners need applied. Paying a couple of quid at the gate gives no licence to act the maggot.

I thought Dunloy were more impressive but the opposition was well below decent SFC standard I suppose.

Will Dunsilly be open for the semis?

Outside of Dunsilly there is only 1 SW venue up to taking a semi final and thats Cargin. In the city there is only Corrigan.

The powers that be will probably send 1 of the games to the mountain and the other to somewhere like Glenavy.

[Sportacus]

The Rossa result (and last weekends matches) makes me itch for a straight knockout again from the get-go.

It's hard to beat the do or die of proper championship.

Now we're getting somewhere.

[Christmas Lights]

Division 1

Kickhams GAC Creggan
St Galls, Belfast
St Bridgets, Belfast
Roger Casements Portglenone   
Clann na hÉireann Carraigin   
St. Mary's Aghagallon   
Lamh Dhearg, Belfast
St John's Belfast       
All Saints GAC, Ballymena   
Cuchullains Dunloy
O`Donovan Rossa, Belfast

Division 2

St Pauls, Belfast
Con Magee's Glenravel
Sarfields, Belfast    
Tír na nÓg Randalstown   
Naomh Eargnait, Muine Glás
St Endas, Belfast
Naomh Séamas, Aldergrove
Ahoghill
Glenavy
St Teresa's GAC, Belfast
Gort Na Mona,  Belfast

Division 3A

Lisburn   
Naomh Comhghall CLG, Antrim
Davitts, Belfast   
St Agnes' GAC, Belfast
Rasharkin   
Cardinal O' Donnell's GAC, Belfast

Division 3B

Ardoyne, Belfast
Éire Óg,  Belfast    
Pearses Belfast    
Laochra Loch Lao, Belfast    
Cloughmills    
St Malachy's,  Belfast

There's your leagues for next year, all should be competitive.
D1 play senior champ
D2 play intermediate champ
3A and 3B play junior champ.

D1 and D2 play through and then split
D3 Leagues play home and away.

16 teams in D1 as they would say in the city, is absolute ballix.

[SaffronSports]

Division 1

Kickhams GAC Creggan
St Galls, Belfast
St Bridgets, Belfast
Roger Casements Portglenone   
Clann na hÉireann Carraigin   
St. Mary's Aghagallon   
Lamh Dhearg, Belfast
St John's Belfast       
All Saints GAC, Ballymena   
Cuchullains Dunloy
O`Donovan Rossa, Belfast

Division 2

St Pauls, Belfast
Con Magee's Glenravel
Sarfields, Belfast    
Tír na nÓg Randalstown   
Naomh Eargnait, Muine Glás
St Endas, Belfast
Naomh Séamas, Aldergrove
Ahoghill
Glenavy
St Teresa's GAC, Belfast
Gort Na Mona,  Belfast

Division 3A

Lisburn   
Naomh Comhghall CLG, Antrim
Davitts, Belfast   
St Agnes' GAC, Belfast
Rasharkin   
Cardinal O' Donnell's GAC, Belfast

Division 3B

Ardoyne, Belfast
Éire Óg,  Belfast    
Pearses Belfast    
Laochra Loch Lao, Belfast    
Cloughmills    
St Malachy's,  Belfast

There's your leagues for next year, all should be competitive.
D1 play senior champ
D2 play intermediate champ
3A and 3B play junior champ.

D1 and D2 play through and then split
D3 Leagues play home and away.

16 teams in D1 as they would say in the city, is absolute ballix.

Your first mistake is 11 teams in Division 1 and Division 2. Make them 10 and 12 even would be better as the odd number and a team on a bye week would be a pain in the arse.

[Hoof Hearted]

Can't do it next year but looks reasonable for 2028
Use next year league to decide those places, rather than hand pick them
But I'd say you wouldn't be far away