Allianz

Started by Baile Brigín 2, December 23, 2025, 07:00:10 PM

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The Allianz Deal

Drop it now
24 (42.9%)
Don't renew
18 (32.1%)
Leave in place
14 (25%)

Total Members Voted: 54

Voting closed: January 31, 2026, 07:00:10 PM

DaleCooper

"It doesn't even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks"

Guess who said this on the Zionist project.

He was not exactly Pro Israel

JoG2

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:25:57 PMExactly, the whole thing is just daft. Didn't Audi build a next generation car specifically for Hitler? I'm sure Volkswagen aren't squeaky clean either. Are we to cancel them too?
Adidas and Hugo Boss made the uniforms I think. Fanta was created by the Nazi's instead of Coca Cola.

As far as I'm aware none of them are currently backing/funding nazi's though (except Coke). Allianz are so should be boycotted

Who's the nazis?
Israel are the modern day equivalent. Maybe worse as most people could agree that the Nazis were bad...

If you have unconditional love for a country funding and backing a genocide you will not want them referred to as nazis I wouldn't have thought

armaghniac

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:25:57 PMExactly, the whole thing is just daft. Didn't Audi build a next generation car specifically for Hitler? I'm sure Volkswagen aren't squeaky clean either. Are we to cancel them too?
Adidas and Hugo Boss made the uniforms I think. Fanta was created by the Nazi's instead of Coca Cola.

As far as I'm aware none of them are currently backing/funding nazi's though (except Coke). Allianz are so should be boycotted

Who's the nazis?
Israel are the modern day equivalent. Maybe worse as most people could agree that the Nazis were bad...

This is a devaluation of language. Israel is clearly wrong, but worse than the Nazis is not truthful
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

seafoid

Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:25:57 PMExactly, the whole thing is just daft. Didn't Audi build a next generation car specifically for Hitler? I'm sure Volkswagen aren't squeaky clean either. Are we to cancel them too?
Adidas and Hugo Boss made the uniforms I think. Fanta was created by the Nazi's instead of Coca Cola.

As far as I'm aware none of them are currently backing/funding nazi's though (except Coke). Allianz are so should be boycotted

Who's the nazis?
Israel and Trump

seafoid

Re Nazis.

Josef Goebbels Nazi wife Magda killed her 6 children as the Soviets approached. Then herself and the husband killed themselves. It's in Downfall.

https://youtu.be/YjL2nR5F5bQ?is=4JkT9TYUFlvqWIF0

Anyway she was from the richest German elite and her son from her first marriage , Harald Quandt, ended up owning 30% of BMW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Quandt

RedHand88

Quote from: seafoid on September 18, 2026, 07:11:13 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:25:57 PMExactly, the whole thing is just daft. Didn't Audi build a next generation car specifically for Hitler? I'm sure Volkswagen aren't squeaky clean either. Are we to cancel them too?
Adidas and Hugo Boss made the uniforms I think. Fanta was created by the Nazi's instead of Coca Cola.

As far as I'm aware none of them are currently backing/funding nazi's though (except Coke). Allianz are so should be boycotted

Who's the nazis?
Israel and Trump


Ireland hosted a state visit for the Nazis? Is President Connolly complicit for shaking hands? :o

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:25:57 PMExactly, the whole thing is just daft. Didn't Audi build a next generation car specifically for Hitler? I'm sure Volkswagen aren't squeaky clean either. Are we to cancel them too?
Adidas and Hugo Boss made the uniforms I think. Fanta was created by the Nazi's instead of Coca Cola.

As far as I'm aware none of them are currently backing/funding nazi's though (except Coke). Allianz are so should be boycotted

Who's the nazis?
Israel are the modern day equivalent. Maybe worse as most people could agree that the Nazis were bad...
That is unhelpful language

Armagh18

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 18, 2026, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:25:57 PMExactly, the whole thing is just daft. Didn't Audi build a next generation car specifically for Hitler? I'm sure Volkswagen aren't squeaky clean either. Are we to cancel them too?
Adidas and Hugo Boss made the uniforms I think. Fanta was created by the Nazi's instead of Coca Cola.

As far as I'm aware none of them are currently backing/funding nazi's though (except Coke). Allianz are so should be boycotted

Who's the nazis?
Israel are the modern day equivalent. Maybe worse as most people could agree that the Nazis were bad...
That is unhelpful language
Whatever. Change out Nazi to right wing supremacist murdering genocidal scum if you want.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 18, 2026, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 18, 2026, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:25:57 PMExactly, the whole thing is just daft. Didn't Audi build a next generation car specifically for Hitler? I'm sure Volkswagen aren't squeaky clean either. Are we to cancel them too?
Adidas and Hugo Boss made the uniforms I think. Fanta was created by the Nazi's instead of Coca Cola.

As far as I'm aware none of them are currently backing/funding nazi's though (except Coke). Allianz are so should be boycotted

Who's the nazis?
Israel are the modern day equivalent. Maybe worse as most people could agree that the Nazis were bad...
That is unhelpful language
Whatever. Change out Nazi to right wing supremacist murdering genocidal scum if you want.
Thanks for your permission

seafoid

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 18, 2026, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 17, 2026, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 17, 2026, 12:25:57 PMExactly, the whole thing is just daft. Didn't Audi build a next generation car specifically for Hitler? I'm sure Volkswagen aren't squeaky clean either. Are we to cancel them too?
Adidas and Hugo Boss made the uniforms I think. Fanta was created by the Nazi's instead of Coca Cola.

As far as I'm aware none of them are currently backing/funding nazi's though (except Coke). Allianz are so should be boycotted

Who's the nazis?
Israel are the modern day equivalent. Maybe worse as most people could agree that the Nazis were bad...
That is unhelpful language
https://x.com/novaramedia/status/2036795109228814404/mediaViewer?currentTweet=2036795109228814404&currentTweetUser=novaramedia
Israel is Nazi. The genocide was nazi. All the dehumanising stuff about Gazans like Amalek and shooting kids in the head is Nazi.

DaleCooper

The concept of Amalek predates the NSDAP by several thousand years.

Newly "informed" people should go and do more reading. You are reinforcing their entire mythology, albeit unwittingly.

seafoid

Quote from: DaleCooper on September 18, 2026, 08:42:41 PMThe concept of Amalek predates the NSDAP by several thousand years.

Newly "informed" people should go and do more reading. You are reinforcing their entire mythology, albeit unwittingly.
Amalek is from the Torah which is  Bronze age
They use it as political economy.
Islam and Christianity are younger Women and kids are protected in war.
They are insane


Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.  Friedrich Nietzsche

seafoid

The problem.is Germany

.https://frasernelson.substack.com/p/the-daily-telegraphs-great-escape
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To understand why that matters, consider what Axel Springer - the German media group that has just bought the Telegraph for £575 million - stands for. It has five stated principles:
• We stand up for freedom, free speech, the rule of law, and democracy.
• We support the right of existence of the State of Israel and oppose all forms of antisemitism.
• We advocate the alliance between the United States of America and Europe.
• We uphold the principles of a free market economy.
• We reject political and religious extremism and all forms of discrimination.

seafoid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/09/28/israel-players-anti-ireland-tirade-our-country-is-better/
Israel's players have reacted furiously to the Republic of Ireland team's decision to bow their heads throughout Hatikvah
, their national anthem, before Sunday's Nations League meeting, with captain Manor Solomon declaring: "We have a country that is 10 times better than theirs."
captain Dara O'Shea refused to shake Solomon's hand and goalscorer Jack Moylan ripped off his black armband – one meant to be a symbol of remembrance for both Israeli and Palestinian deaths – and kissed it in full view of Israel's 200 travelling fans.

But it was the anthem snub that caused the deepest offence among the Israeli team, as goalkeeper Daniel Peretz condemned it as "ignorance

we have a country that is 10 times better than theirs, stronger, an amazing country with amazing people, proud to wear the national team's uniform and be Israelis. Proud of our country and our soldiers, we can do any number of things. We are Israelis and love the country – winning is what it will be

It all stems from ignorance," the Southampton goalkeeper said. "If I understand that, it's easier for me to deal with it. There are those who came and asked, who understand the situation. But there are those who don't want to, aren't interested, and find it very easy to express an opinion. There's nothing to get upset about, these are ignorant people."
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Alan Shatter, Ireland's former justice minister, attended the match on a press pass for the Jerusalem Post
and claimed that too many in his country had been peddling an "ideological, hate-fuelled, anti-Semitic agenda". He also condemned the "disrespect" shown towards Israel's players as "shameful".

disturbing delirium has crept over Ireland at the prospect of facing Israel on a football pitch. All day its team agonised on the eve of the match in Debrecen, eastern Hungary, prolonging a national nervous breakdown that has worsened in the seven months since the draw was made. As if anti-Israeli sentiment in the country were not frenzied enough, with Ed Sheeran's songs banned by a major Irish radio station in protest at the singer's removal of a support act for pro-Palestinian diatribes, activists have pressurised their own players, calling on them not to fulfil two fixtures against what they describe as a "genocidal state". In this tinderbox atmosphere, goalkeeper Gavin Bazunu decided he no longer wanted any part of it.
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Several team-mates approved his preference for a boycott, before a majority eventually voted in favour of the game taking place. Amid scenes of utter chaos, with nobody sure if the team bus parked outside the hotel would head to the stadium or straight back to the airport, Ireland's training session began over five hours later than planned. Not that the furore will abate either this weekend or next. The subject has become an obsession, a moral purity test, creating a climate of intimidation so acute that the "home" match next weekend has had to be moved to a small Serbian town, with the hosts unable to guarantee their opponents' safety on Irish soil.
There has never been a build-up quite like it. Every twist has taken on an overwhelming significance in Ireland, whether it is Bazunu's decision or Israel striker Saied Abu Farchi being sent off against Austria when the referee mistook his snooker cue celebration for mimicking firing a gun. Even Heimir Hallgrimsson, Ireland's Icelandic manager, has said it is "not a good feeling" for his side to be under such strain from their own people. In all the hue and cry, who is considering the predicament of Finn Azaz, whose mother has Israeli citizenship and whose Southampton team-mate Daniel Peretz is Israel's goalkeeper?

But even this minimalist treatment will struggle to calm a febrile mood on the Emerald Isle, where Israeli involvement in any sporting contest, or indeed in the supposedly harmless froth of Eurovision – boycotted by Ireland
both this year and next – is perceived as beyond the pale.

Ireland, the rationale is more unsettling: a raw, unvarnished hostility towards Israel itself, with Taoiseach Micheál Martin accusing the state of committing genocide in Gaza and several politicians urging total diplomatic isolation. The situation is so toxic that David Courell, chief executive of the Football Association of Ireland (FAI), recently asked Uefa to keep the two countries apart in all future competitions. Uefa rejected the request, on the grounds that the nations were not in direct conflict.

Still this is not enough to placate the absolutists, with former Ireland midfielder Kevin Kilbane arguing that unless the FAI pulls out altogether, "it will forever be mentioned alongside Ed Sheeran and his cowardly refusal to stand with a friend and fellow artist who used his platform to say, 'Free Palestine'."

This is the same Ireland, after all, that had no qualms about playing a friendly in May against Qatar, which has allowed Hamas to base its political leadership in Doha. It is also the same Ireland whose men's cricket team played five matches this summer against Afghanistan, run by Taliban fanatics mandating the medieval enslavement of women.

So why does Ireland, seemingly more than anywhere else in Europe, have such an overwhelming animus towards Israel? Even in their Nations League qualifying group, it stands apart through the ferocity of its condemnation. Kosovo, a nation whose population is 93 per cent Muslim, will play Israel at home in November, and so far there is little expectation of rioting on the streets of Pristina. In Dublin, the revulsion at confronting Israel in any sporting context is so all-enveloping that Sinn Féin is now turning on the Irish women's wheelchair basketball team for daring to compete against a "genocidal regime".

One explanation is that the Irish naturally feel common cause with the Palestinians, in light of a shared experience of subjugation by an occupying state. "We see our history in their eyes," said Leo Varadkar, who resigned as Taoiseach in 2024, of the long shadow of British imperial rule. "A story of displacement, of dispossession, national identity questioned or denied, forced emigration, discrimination, and now hunger." In a recent Irish poll, 53 per cent of respondents expressed greater sympathy with the Palestinian side of the conflict in Gaza, compared to just 11 per cent with Israel. But perhaps this is hardly surprising, given that the October 7 pogrom, in which 1,200 were murdered and 251 abducted in the largest single-day slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust, rarely warrants acknowledgement amid Ireland's constant allegations of "genocide". This begs the far more uncomfortable question of whether Ireland's grievances lie not so much with Israel, but with Jewish people.
 Pro-Palestinian protestors hold flags and a sign on a motorway overpass outside RTE Credit: Reuters/Clodagh KilcoyneIt is a debate that has raged for generations. In James Joyce's Ulysses, the ultimate literary depiction of Ireland, headmaster Mr Deasy declares: "Ireland, they say, has the honour of being the only country which never persecuted the Jews – and do you know why? She never let them in." That characterisation was rooted in reality: Ireland would admit pitifully few Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany, with the number estimated in the low hundreds. It adopted a policy of neutrality throughout the Second World War, which proved popular with the public but so outraged Winston Churchill that he wrote a minute suggesting that Éamon de Valera, Taoiseach at the time, could "stew in his own juice". In May 1945, with the unimaginable horrors of Bergen-Belsen beginning to emerge after the camp's liberation by the Allies, De Valera even visited the German representative in Dublin to offer condolences on the death of Adolf Hitler.What Ireland imagines as a soaring display of integrity comes across more as an unhealthy fixation with one war, one nation, and one faith.