Allianz

Started by Baile Brigín 2, December 23, 2025, 07:00:10 PM

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The Allianz Deal

Drop it now
Don't renew
Leave in place

Voting closes: January 31, 2026, 07:00:10 PM

Baile Brigín 2

What say the troops.

Is Burns right in his logic that it's too much hassle to remove Allianz as sponsor? Or is this peak money grabbing from an Association losing touch with it's members?

seafoid

https://www.bing.com/search?setmkt=en-GB&q=allianz+in+israel&PC=SMSM&FORM=MBDPSB

Allianz has faced significant scrutiny regarding its business practices in Israel, particularly in the context of its insurance and investment ties with companies involved in military operations.

Investment in Military Equipment: Allianz has been implicated in funding companies like Elbit Systems, which produces military drones used in Gaza, raising concerns about its role in supporting Israel's military actions. 

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Protests and Activism: Activists have targeted Allianz offices across Europe, demanding that the company cease its ties with Elbit Systems, citing its involvement in the ongoing conflict in Gaza. 

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Catholic Church Calls for Action: The Catholic Church has also called for Allianz to sever ties with the company, reflecting the broader ethical concerns surrounding corporate involvement in military conflicts. 

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These developments highlight the ongoing debate about the ethical implications of multinational corporations like Allianz in the region."


The GAA should dump them.

DaleCooper

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on December 23, 2025, 07:00:10 PMWhat say the troops.

Is Burns right in his logic that it's too much hassle to remove Allianz as sponsor? Or is this peak money grabbing from an Association losing touch with it's members?

As usual Irish people deluding themselves soft power matters. Do not understand reality of power or how to wield it[if they had any].

If Irish were like the Jews , right now there would be a United Ireland. Britain would have a famine museum in every town and there would be nuclear armed submarines patrolling the shores

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: DaleCooper on December 23, 2025, 09:33:20 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on December 23, 2025, 07:00:10 PMWhat say the troops.

Is Burns right in his logic that it's too much hassle to remove Allianz as sponsor? Or is this peak money grabbing from an Association losing touch with it's members?

As usual Irish people deluding themselves soft power matters. Do not understand reality of power or how to wield it[if they had any].

If Irish were like the Jews , right now there would be a United Ireland. Britain would have a famine museum in every town and there would be nuclear armed submarines patrolling the shores
This has what to do with Allianz and Burns being less than truthful?

thewobbler

I'll watch this thread with a little, not a lot, of interest. Not for the comments, for it will inevitably descend into 3-4 people misquoting each other as often as possible. More to see if the conversation just disappears quickly with little engagement. For I do believe that's how it'll pan out in the real world.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: thewobbler on December 23, 2025, 10:48:29 PMI'll watch this thread with a little, not a lot, of interest. Not for the comments, for it will inevitably descend into 3-4 people misquoting each other as often as possible. More to see if the conversation just disappears quickly with little engagement. For I do believe that's how it'll pan out in the real world.
I'm not sure. I think enough people are pissed off with Burns nonsense to boycott games, or even put on a picket.

It's not just the 'no', it's the dogshit he came out with to justify it.

Armagh18

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on December 23, 2025, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on December 23, 2025, 10:48:29 PMI'll watch this thread with a little, not a lot, of interest. Not for the comments, for it will inevitably descend into 3-4 people misquoting each other as often as possible. More to see if the conversation just disappears quickly with little engagement. For I do believe that's how it'll pan out in the real world.
I'm not sure. I think enough people are pissed off with Burns nonsense to boycott games, or even put on a picket.

It's not just the 'no', it's the dogshit he came out with to justify it.
Think I've lost whatever respect I had left for him after that tripe.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on December 23, 2025, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on December 23, 2025, 10:48:29 PMI'll watch this thread with a little, not a lot, of interest. Not for the comments, for it will inevitably descend into 3-4 people misquoting each other as often as possible. More to see if the conversation just disappears quickly with little engagement. For I do believe that's how it'll pan out in the real world.
I'm not sure. I think enough people are pissed off with Burns nonsense to boycott games, or even put on a picket.

It's not just the 'no', it's the dogshit he came out with to justify it.
I'm not sure there will be numbers for boycotts, certainly not in the '26' as its called. I know that's partitionist but does reflect the level of interest and support for Palestine apart from in Dublin GAA. Is much more awareness and activism in the "wee six".
Definitely will be pickets. Protests best way to go... field incursions and such. Jarlath had his eyes on the Presidency for years and said nothing that would undermine that. He's not going to go off message now.

GTP

Quote from: Truthsayer on December 24, 2025, 10:19:31 AMDefinitely will be pickets. Protests best way to go... field incursions and such.
How can this assist in preventing genocide in Palestine?
If people who believe the GAA is wrong in being sponsored by a certain company, by all means boycott the organisation and the sponsor. And by bringing it to the attention of other members of the GAA allow us to choose not to support the GAA or the sponsor if that is what we believe.
Direct action or whatever it would be called at GAA matches is grandstanding for effect it will not be constructive in resolving any issues those protesting have with the GAA.
It is possible to be a GAA member, against genocide and not care about the sponsor.
 

Truthsayer

Quote from: GTP on December 24, 2025, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on December 24, 2025, 10:19:31 AMDefinitely will be pickets. Protests best way to go... field incursions and such.
How can this assist in preventing genocide in Palestine?
If people who believe the GAA is wrong in being sponsored by a certain company, by all means boycott the organisation and the sponsor. And by bringing it to the attention of other members of the GAA allow us to choose not to support the GAA or the sponsor if that is what we believe.
Direct action or whatever it would be called at GAA matches is grandstanding for effect it will not be constructive in resolving any issues those protesting have with the GAA.
It is possible to be a GAA member, against genocide and not care about the sponsor.
 
Really?! ... even though the sponsor is complicit in that very genocide.

tonto1888

I am in 2 minds about this. I believe Armagh were one of 8 counties to bring or back the motion to drop Allianz so there is that but still sits very uneasy with me Allianz remaining the sponsor of the leagues. Genuinely not sure what to do. I am not a season ticket holder and juts get my tickets in a match by match basis so have time yet to decide

GTP

Quote from: Truthsayer on December 24, 2025, 12:05:28 PMReally?! ... even though the sponsor is complicit in that very genocide.
Yes, because I am doing it as I type. The sponsorship deal has no relevance to what is happening in Palestine and ending it will have no relevance to what is happening in Palestine.
The GAA is not complicit in genocide by being sponsored by this company, they just agreed a deal with someone under completely different circumstances which they might not have done if they knew what was coming down the road.

Truthsayer

GPA don't even reply to email messages on the subject... def ourselves alone ££
Be interesting to see do any players speak out..

gallsman

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 24, 2025, 08:57:38 AMThink I've lost whatever respect I had left for him after that tripe.

He'll be crying himself to sleep, I'm sure.

gallsman

Quote from: Truthsayer on December 24, 2025, 10:19:31 AMI know that's partitionist but does reflect the level of interest and support for Palestine apart from in Dublin GAA. Is much more awareness and activism in the "wee six"

You'd not have the slightest f**king clue about it if it wasn't for the petition delivered to Croke Park signed by people from all over the island.