Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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saffron123

dunloy had 2 x physios on the field yesterday at the same times plus a massive squad of players
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What a load of dung. 2 girls on attending to players (they will cause some problems up the line) and any team worth talking about has a massive squad these days. Don't think any of the squad was going onto the pitch. Cushendall did have 16 players on the field for a period of team right enough...

Last Man

Should be a named panel of 26 max surely. On pitch personnel is very strictly enforced beyond county club level championship. Makes sense that the same rules were applied at an earlier stage.

Torcrua

Quote from: Last Man on September 14, 2026, 01:06:45 PMShould be a named panel of 26 max surely. On pitch personnel is very strictly enforced beyond county club level championship. Makes sense that the same rules were applied at an earlier stage.

This has long been a bee in my bonnet.

For me, the manager and one selector should be the only officials in front of the dugout. I've no issue with water boys, stick carriers etc. being elsewhere along the sideline, but the lads with clipboards and iPads shouldn't be standing on the sideline either never mind the growing number of hangers on.

Keep it simple: 26 matchday panel members in the dugout, everyone else behind the wire.

The sideline should be for the players and the management team who actually need to be there. Too many people roaming the technical area just creates clutter, confusion and, at times, an atmosphere that doesn't need to be there.

Maybe I'm old school, but I think a bit of discipline around the sideline wouldn't do the game any harm.


saffman

Quote from: NorthAntrimSaff on September 14, 2026, 10:00:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2026, 12:54:10 PMBig couple of weeks ahead for the county board. Sanctions needed for both clubs and hopefully a permanent ban for a certain county "footballer" after his actions were read out in court last week.

Dealt with by the courts now you want Antrim/GAA to open a can of worms and permanently suspend a player? Catch yourself on. Where do you draw the line on suspensions in that case?

saffman

Quote from: NorthAntrimSaff on September 14, 2026, 10:00:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2026, 12:54:10 PMBig couple of weeks ahead for the county board. Sanctions needed for both clubs and hopefully a permanent ban for a certain county "footballer" after his actions were read out in court last week.

Dealt with by the courts now you want Antrim/GAA to open a can of worms and permanently suspend a player? Catch yourself on. Where do you draw the line on suspensions in that case?

There may not be a way to officially suspend however for me, ever since the incident/story broke i've found it unsettling that the fella continues to represent Antrim.

Being a county player isnt just about skill and fitness, there is a standard off the field which is to be upheld. Many a player across all codes has been dropped from a panel just to off field behaviour.

He should not be representing Antrim GAA.

NAG1

Quote from: saffman on September 14, 2026, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrimSaff on September 14, 2026, 10:00:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2026, 12:54:10 PMBig couple of weeks ahead for the county board. Sanctions needed for both clubs and hopefully a permanent ban for a certain county "footballer" after his actions were read out in court last week.

Dealt with by the courts now you want Antrim/GAA to open a can of worms and permanently suspend a player? Catch yourself on. Where do you draw the line on suspensions in that case?

There may not be a way to officially suspend however for me, ever since the incident/story broke i've found it unsettling that the fella continues to represent Antrim.

Being a county player isnt just about skill and fitness, there is a standard off the field which is to be upheld. Many a player across all codes has been dropped from a panel just to off field behaviour.

He should not be representing Antrim GAA.

In fairness to the Co Board this is a tricky one and would set a serious precedence which could end up in a whole different conversation of various people playing our games.

In this case which is a very sad one, I think if the person in question had've shown any remorse or empathy to the victim this could have been an entirely different situation. The fact that he didn't and basically treated the victim with contempt makes this even more a pill to swallow watching him line our for Antrim and effectively represent all of us.


paddyjohn

Quote from: NorthAntrimSaff on September 14, 2026, 11:19:59 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2026, 10:59:11 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrimSaff on September 14, 2026, 10:00:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2026, 12:54:10 PMBig couple of weeks ahead for the county board. Sanctions needed for both clubs and hopefully a permanent ban for a certain county "footballer" after his actions were read out in court last week.

Dealt with by the courts now you want Antrim/GAA to open a can of worms and permanently suspend a player? Catch yourself on. Where do you draw the line on suspensions in that case?

Read the article. If you're happy enough to take your kids to watch somebody like that well thats up to you.

That's not my point. My point is that plenty of bad things go on around the country, where are you happy to draw the line under suspensions?



When the person in questions pulls on a saffron top he represents us all.

He shouldn't be wearing the jersey.

saffman

Nothing tricky for the county board, its not about suspending him. Simply dropping him from the panel is a matter of management integrity.
Players in the past have been dropped from panels for off pitch behaviour, bar fights, drugs etc so the precedent is... if your character falls short of team standards your gone.

This wasnt a car crash that just happens, fella is remorseful, stays on the scene and helps the victim. He fled and tried to cover it up...

At this time he shouldve been pulled aside and told to go back to the club until it had ran its course. I blame mark doran for continuing to select him.

Now the case is settled he should be nowhere near a county team.

Two Hands FFS

So if he shouldn't be playing for the County, he should just play for his club? What's the difference?

Obviously what he done was shocking

faughs

Anyone seen any clarification if Carey or Creggan are through to semi? Saffron Gael have Creggan through but others interpret Carey having best goal difference.


SaffronSports

Quote from: faughs on September 14, 2026, 10:18:51 PMAnyone seen any clarification if Carey or Creggan are through to semi? Saffron Gael have Creggan through but others interpret Carey having best goal difference.



Carey topped the group and go to semis, Creggan and St Galls go to qf.

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: SaffronSports on September 15, 2026, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: faughs on September 14, 2026, 10:18:51 PMAnyone seen any clarification if Carey or Creggan are through to semi? Saffron Gael have Creggan through but others interpret Carey having best goal difference.



Carey topped the group and go to semis, Creggan and St Galls go to qf.

website has creggan top, Carey 2nd

SaffronSports

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 15, 2026, 10:29:26 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 15, 2026, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: faughs on September 14, 2026, 10:18:51 PMAnyone seen any clarification if Carey or Creggan are through to semi? Saffron Gael have Creggan through but others interpret Carey having best goal difference.



Carey topped the group and go to semis, Creggan and St Galls go to qf.

website has creggan top, Carey 2nd

Those websites are formatted to go basic points difference.

It goes to a 3 way tie between those 3 teams, matches against each other only.

Carey beat Naomh Gall by 9 and lost to Creggan by 3 so pd is +6.

Creggan beat Carey by 3 and lost to Naomh Gall by 1 so are +2.

Naomh Gall pd is -8 due to 9 point loss to Carey and 1 point win v Creggan.

1)carey +6
2)creggan +2
3)naomh gall -8

Deerstalker

Quote from: SaffronSports on September 15, 2026, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 15, 2026, 10:29:26 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 15, 2026, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: faughs on September 14, 2026, 10:18:51 PMAnyone seen any clarification if Carey or Creggan are through to semi? Saffron Gael have Creggan through but others interpret Carey having best goal difference.



Carey topped the group and go to semis, Creggan and St Galls go to qf.

website has creggan top, Carey 2nd

Those websites are formatted to go basic points difference.

It goes to a 3 way tie between those 3 teams, matches against each other only.

Carey beat Naomh Gall by 9 and lost to Creggan by 3 so pd is +6.

Creggan beat Carey by 3 and lost to Naomh Gall by 1 so are +2.

Naomh Gall pd is -8 due to 9 point loss to Carey and 1 point win v Creggan.

1)carey +6
2)creggan +2
3)naomh gall -8


The website has St Paul's ahead of Ahoghill with an inferior points difference, as St Paul's beat them in group.

SaffronSports

Quote from: Deerstalker on September 15, 2026, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 15, 2026, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 15, 2026, 10:29:26 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 15, 2026, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: faughs on September 14, 2026, 10:18:51 PMAnyone seen any clarification if Carey or Creggan are through to semi? Saffron Gael have Creggan through but others interpret Carey having best goal difference.



Carey topped the group and go to semis, Creggan and St Galls go to qf.

website has creggan top, Carey 2nd

Those websites are formatted to go basic points difference.

It goes to a 3 way tie between those 3 teams, matches against each other only.

Carey beat Naomh Gall by 9 and lost to Creggan by 3 so pd is +6.

Creggan beat Carey by 3 and lost to Naomh Gall by 1 so are +2.

Naomh Gall pd is -8 due to 9 point loss to Carey and 1 point win v Creggan.

1)carey +6
2)creggan +2
3)naomh gall -8


The website has St Paul's ahead of Ahoghill with an inferior points difference, as St Paul's beat them in group.

Must have the criteria right for 2 teams h2h but not 3? Check the JFC, table has O'Ds in 3rd but they were actually second as per qf fixtures where they are at home to Pearses.