Antrim Hurling

[Hoof Hearted]

Anyone seen any clarification if Carey or Creggan are through to semi? Saffron Gael have Creggan through but others interpret Carey having best goal difference.

Carey topped the group and go to semis, Creggan and St Galls go to qf.

website has creggan top, Carey 2nd

[SaffronSports]

Anyone seen any clarification if Carey or Creggan are through to semi? Saffron Gael have Creggan through but others interpret Carey having best goal difference.

Carey topped the group and go to semis, Creggan and St Galls go to qf.

website has creggan top, Carey 2nd

Those websites are formatted to go basic points difference.

It goes to a 3 way tie between those 3 teams, matches against each other only.

Carey beat Naomh Gall by 9 and lost to Creggan by 3 so pd is +6.

Creggan beat Carey by 3 and lost to Naomh Gall by 1 so are +2.

Naomh Gall pd is -8 due to 9 point loss to Carey and 1 point win v Creggan.

1)carey +6
2)creggan +2
3)naomh gall -8

[Deerstalker]

Anyone seen any clarification if Carey or Creggan are through to semi? Saffron Gael have Creggan through but others interpret Carey having best goal difference.

Carey topped the group and go to semis, Creggan and St Galls go to qf.

website has creggan top, Carey 2nd

Those websites are formatted to go basic points difference.

It goes to a 3 way tie between those 3 teams, matches against each other only.

Carey beat Naomh Gall by 9 and lost to Creggan by 3 so pd is +6.

Creggan beat Carey by 3 and lost to Naomh Gall by 1 so are +2.

Naomh Gall pd is -8 due to 9 point loss to Carey and 1 point win v Creggan.

1)carey +6
2)creggan +2
3)naomh gall -8

The website has St Paul's ahead of Ahoghill with an inferior points difference, as St Paul's beat them in group.

[SaffronSports]

Anyone seen any clarification if Carey or Creggan are through to semi? Saffron Gael have Creggan through but others interpret Carey having best goal difference.

Carey topped the group and go to semis, Creggan and St Galls go to qf.

website has creggan top, Carey 2nd

Those websites are formatted to go basic points difference.

It goes to a 3 way tie between those 3 teams, matches against each other only.

Carey beat Naomh Gall by 9 and lost to Creggan by 3 so pd is +6.

Creggan beat Carey by 3 and lost to Naomh Gall by 1 so are +2.

Naomh Gall pd is -8 due to 9 point loss to Carey and 1 point win v Creggan.

1)carey +6
2)creggan +2
3)naomh gall -8

The website has St Paul's ahead of Ahoghill with an inferior points difference, as St Paul's beat them in group.

Must have the criteria right for 2 teams h2h but not 3? Check the JFC, table has O'Ds in 3rd but they were actually second as per qf fixtures where they are at home to Pearses.

[SaffronSports]

Tie Breakers should teams be level after all matches are completed:

(1) The higher number of League Points obtained in the 'Head-to-Head' games defined as the games in which the teams involved in the tie have played each other. 
(2) The higher Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For) in the 'Head-to-Head' games.
(3) The higher Scores For in the 'Head-to- Head' games.
(4) If, having applied criteria (1) to (3) inclusive, there are still teams with an equal ranking, criteria (1) to (3) are applied to the 'Head to Head' games between the teams which remain tied.
(5) The higher Scoring Difference in all games in the League Group.
(6) The higher Scores For in all games in the League Group.
(7) A Play-Off.

[podge]

The social media PR in Antrim Camogie puts the hurling and football to shame.

We are 3 days after the group stages being final and as far as I can see the JHC and SHC knock out fixtures have been posted but not the IHC. 

Maybe they  are still trying to work out their own rules to establish who won the Carey/Creggan group .

Is it the county boards official policy just to leave the PR to the Saffron Gael and others ?

[bannside]

One and only Sean Kelly is the man behind the excellent camogie promotion. Light years ahead... Antrim football and hurling could do with his PR skillset.

And Saffron Gael shouldnt be taken for granted, Curly and Paddy wont be around forever and who will step up and try to fill those boots.

County should be supporting them much more too imo...

[NorthAntrimSaff]

One and only Sean Kelly is the man behind the excellent camogie promotion. Light years ahead... Antrim football and hurling could do with his PR skillset.

And Saffron Gael shouldnt be taken for granted, Curly and Paddy wont be around forever and who will step up and try to fill those boots.

County should be supporting them much more too imo...

The saffron gael is a team now to be fair. Paddy and John do a lot but likes of BMCT, Kevin Herron, Bert, Brian McKee plus a lot more contribute a lot to it

They've been slagged on here already also but the we are antrim podcast is fantastic. Look forward to it every week.

[podge]

One and only Sean Kelly is the man behind the excellent camogie promotion. Light years ahead... Antrim football and hurling could do with his PR skillset.

And Saffron Gael shouldnt be taken for granted, Curly and Paddy wont be around forever and who will step up and try to fill those boots.

County should be supporting them much more too imo...

The saffron gael is a team now to be fair. Paddy and John do a lot but likes of BMCT, Kevin Herron, Bert, Brian McKee plus a lot more contribute a lot to it

They've been slagged on here already also but the we are antrim podcast is fantastic. Look forward to it every week.

Saffron Gael do a great job - certainly shouldn't be taken for granted and we should all support in whatever way possible.  Just not clear on whether in a formal/ informal policy of the county Board's to leave them to it.  It feels like it is !

I find the We Are Antrim podcast a bit naff to be honest but it will improve over time I expect .

[Round or stuffed]

what happened to the other crowd who did the podcast, behind the half way line or something?

[NorthAntrimSaff]

Derry hurling structure is shocking. Swatragh contest a junior final this weekend having competed in ulster intermediate the previous 2 years

Feel for an antrim team making it that far as they are up against it

[podge]

Derry hurling structure is shocking. Swatragh contest a junior final this weekend having competed in ulster intermediate the previous 2 years

Feel for an antrim team making it that far as they are up against it

It's very unfair on junior and intermediate clubs in other counties. 

That said, I think the Antrim system whereby junior and intermediate clubs are forced to go up the next season is flawed as well.  The gap between these grades is significant and going up to a higher grade can be the ruination of a small club.  Sure in recent years Creggan went up to the SHC and didn't even compete in it as far as I recall.

I would suggest something like, if a team wins the Junior or Intermediate twice in three years, they must go up;  In addition, they have a choice to go up after winning it each year should they wish

[Silver Eel]

Derry hurling structure is shocking. Swatragh contest a junior final this weekend having competed in ulster intermediate the previous 2 years

Feel for an antrim team making it that far as they are up against it

They effectively play an 8 team championship and the winner of the final is senior champion, winner of losing semis is intermediate and winner of losing quarters is junior.    If Antrim had the same set up, we could be sending (for example only) Dunloy/Loughgiel to Ulster senior, St johns/Cushendall Intermediate, Glenariffe/Ballycastle to Junior. 

[johnnycool]

Derry hurling structure is shocking. Swatragh contest a junior final this weekend having competed in ulster intermediate the previous 2 years

Feel for an antrim team making it that far as they are up against it

They effectively play an 8 team championship and the winner of the final is senior champion, winner of losing semis is intermediate and winner of losing quarters is junior.    If Antrim had the same set up, we could be sending (for example only) Dunloy/Loughgiel to Ulster senior, St johns/Cushendall Intermediate, Glenariffe/Ballycastle to Junior. 

If Antrim had only 8 teams then that might make sense. I'm not sure the point you are making as I still feel Antrim have it right in giving all teams a chance at a county final at their level.

In Down they've changed it. None of the 6 teams in senior will drop down to the intermediate grade which is probably fair as normally the bottom 2 senior teams end up playing in the intermediate final.

The intermediate round robin sections of 4 in each group, the top 1 from each section play off in the intermediate final with the 2nd and 3rd teams then playing off in semi-finals and final for the junior title.


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