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tiempo

Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2026, 05:12:10 PMLike a lot of subjects there is nuance.

I was involved with a ladies intercounty team a short while ago and the girls didn't really like to give their gloves away as they personally had to buy replacements for training on Tuesday night.  The young kids who came on to the pitch after games expected to receive gloves, like they do after the mens's games.  The kids don't understand that there is such a difference between the men and ladies.  It is wrong that the ladies didn't feel like they could freely give their gloves away.

But at the same time, economically it is difficult to try to argue that both groups should receive the same financial resources when there is such a difference in the revenue generation of the two bodies.

For me, its all about how those two paragraphs can be squared with each other.

Anyone thinking along those lines is daft in the head

Smokin Joe

Quote from: tiempo on September 09, 2026, 05:26:29 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2026, 05:12:10 PMLike a lot of subjects there is nuance.

I was involved with a ladies intercounty team a short while ago and the girls didn't really like to give their gloves away as they personally had to buy replacements for training on Tuesday night.  The young kids who came on to the pitch after games expected to receive gloves, like they do after the mens's games.  The kids don't understand that there is such a difference between the men and ladies.  It is wrong that the ladies didn't feel like they could freely give their gloves away.

But at the same time, economically it is difficult to try to argue that both groups should receive the same financial resources when there is such a difference in the revenue generation of the two bodies.

For me, its all about how those two paragraphs can be squared with each other.

Anyone thinking along those lines is daft in the head

I can't imagine any / too many people would think that.  But how do they get to the position where they can give the gloves away knowing there will be a new pair waiting for them on Tuesday night?  How much more money does the LGFA need to be able to achieve that?
My point is that a line has to be drawn somewhere where they know more gloves are coming weekly (just to pick a practical example) but that it is short of getting the same €€€ as the men's game as it doesn't bring in anywhere close to the same revenue.
And trying to draw that line has to be difficult.

tiempo

In my experience if you put 100 pairs of gloves on a table for 30 players they'll take 100 pairs of gloves

£45m a year to facilitate the mens inter county game is a staggering sum, there must be some amount of lining the pockets in that, we don't need a second and third feeding frenzy on expenses, we need cold logic, pragmatism and strong governance

The fact is, the GAA LGFA and Camogie dovetail well and are in rude health, just because the ladies can't be provided with silk pyjamas doesn't mean they should be, or that men should be either

befair

I was involved with ladies football at club and county level for years (as an unpaid volunteer). Games are poorly attended and income is minimal. A few years ago there was a row because a county board wasn't paying travel expenses (and, of course, the GAA was blamed, tho nothing to do with them). Football is a hobby, like any other amateur sport; expecting expenses when there is no money is absurd.

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/09/09/mary-mcaleese-may-have-done-the-gaa-a-favour-by-burning-the-boats/If you want to talk about apprehension or anxiety as opposed to resistance," Jarlath Burns said at that Oireachtas Committee meeting back in December, "that is mainly coming from county boards. Is [the €40m spent on intercounty GAA teams] going to be multiplied by three?

"The biggest challenge facing us is trying to reduce the amount of money we are spending on county teams. That is why amateur status has been one of the main planks of my presidency. In preparation for integration, we have to make ourselves integration-ready as well. That is one of the major areas in which we are going to have to do that. We simply will not be able to sustain an organisation if we are spending €120 million every year on preparing county teams. That will not work for any of us."


Norm-Peterson

McAleese needs to remember that plenty of Irish men voted for her in the presidential elections. Remember that before you bring up the misogyny argument.
I really hate that word, such an American term, when I hear it I imagine it being said in a high pitched Californian accent.

tiempo

She took a cut at the GAA mgmt committee in her exit interview with RTE, said they weren't an impressive bunch and lacked vision, funny enough that committee is 40% women

In reality, she didnt have the staying power to see it through, yeno like the generations who built the thing and put the infrastructure in place, shes more accustomed to cutting red tape than rolling the sleeves up

marty34

Why was the timeframe not pushed out another five years initially?  I can't see why it was so rushed. Surely everyone knows how long a 'job' like that takes these days.

Wildweasel74

#53
There no reason county teams are training 4/5 times a week and club team 3/4. Its a f**king money racket to outside managers and trainers.  Who want all this training. 30yrs ago club teams done twice a week, and county teams no more than 3. This is not a professional game, never will be. There be no even spread of money but ladies fball and camogie needs proper bcking. Put them on before NFl fixtures, and the spot minors had in the championship. This rubbed alot of the high knobs up the wrong way. They know certain positions in current committees will keep the same size, but have to take in camogie and ladies fball members, pushing people out who been there way too long to start with.

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2026, 05:12:10 PMThe young kids who came on to the pitch after games expected to receive gloves, like they do after the mens's games.  The kids don't understand that there is such a difference between the men and ladies.  It is wrong that the ladies didn't feel like they could freely give their gloves away.

WTF.

Surely the answer there is to stop the men throwing away gloves at €30 a pair "just because they are free".
That attitude is one of the very things feared by the clowns in the GPA being given too much oxygen.


Materialistic bullshit. Kids don't need a f**king souvenir - how many on the board have ever got similar when running onto the pitch after a game?


"You've 2 pairs of gloves for the season lads. If you wreck one, bring it back as proof or you'll be paying for your replacement."

i usse an speelchekor

Wildweasel74

Know a lad got Tohill shorts after a league final 1996, i said u nicked his boots given half a chance. Wasnt a cub either lol.

Wildweasel74

I wore the rugby gloves.for a good 5yrs, thought them better than the big padded gloves,

Genocide Organ

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2026, 08:54:07 PMI wore the rugby gloves.for a good 5yrs, thought them better than the big padded gloves,

Didn't even know they had rugby gloves...

Wildweasel74

They fingerless, with grips on the palms.

Dougal Maguire

I see Mary Lou McDonald has now jumped on the bandwagon
Careful now