Altogether now 2027

Started by trailer, February 20, 2024, 03:05:37 PM

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Rossfan

GPA rent free in someone's head ::)
2026 the year of the 9 Cups

magpie seanie

Tiempo is correct above but it will be lost in the pile on. Tom Ryan's comments are - in fairness - really good.

I'd advise anyone with an interest to read the March 2026 briefing from the Integration committee. From what I can see that is the first timeline with any detail introduced. It is highly aggressive and I don't find it one bit surprising that structures proposed/made public in March in that document are not agreed yet. They look a but wooly to me on a quick glance. I understand the GAA have been up front about these concerns but worked away regardless.

As for the GPA - I await their confirmation that intercounty males players will receive a reduced rate of mileage etc so that the female players can be treated equally. There's no magic money tree out there.

magpie seanie

Rent free is a good term surely.

tiempo

Last week the club physio (already in receipt of his hourly rate) asked for mileage, I thought it was a right cheek considering the players are hauling ass all year with practically no expenses

Male county players are on €0.70/mile, female county players €0.50/mile, if the male players are as staunch as the blowhards representing them they'll happily accept a €0.10 reduction transferred to the ladies to commence 1st Jan 2027

Good to see the GAA taking steps to quet the tail wagging dog nonsense they've been wedded to in recent years

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: StephenC on September 09, 2026, 12:35:35 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 09, 2026, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 09, 2026, 11:08:04 AMI see young girls playing camogie and football on GAA pitches every week.
They couldn't give a fiddlers if they are a different organisation.
That is club dependant though. Some fully integrate the women. Some charge them to use the club name and facilties. I understand only one camogie club owns it's own grounds.

They split for a reason and McAleeses  comments are ominous that nothing has changed

Was there a split? I thought that the LGFA was set up as a seperate organisation, rather than it splitting off from the GAA

Camogie split in the 50's. LGFA was founded in I think tbe 80's and chose to go out on their own


magpie seanie

#35
Camogie association was founded in 1904.

LGFA in 1974.

There was no split. Have been separate organisations all along.

seafoid

Another black mark against the GAA leadership

thejuice

It would helpful if the media could actually report on what the actual stumbling blocks are as opposed to rolling out cheap headlines about 'misogyny'. The GAA on its own struggles get its various parts to function in unison (club / county for example) so integrating 2 new sporting bodies which will only add to the complications already faced by the association is a monumental task. I find just putting it all down to misogyny is just a cheap way of generating clicks and deflecting blame.

The 3 organisations involved could get this very wrong and get whole thing off on a very bad footing. They are all responsible for getting it right. Even at the most optimistic outlook someone is going to lose out somewhere to get this off the ground and it won't be the lads and ladies at the top of the game anyway. 
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

DaleCooper

If youre agin it you are backwards. Are you not for progress?

johnnycool

Interesting take from the GAA:

The GAA acknowledges that, after four years, Dr. Mary McAleese has stepped away from her role as Chairperson of the group.

We wish to express our appreciation and thank Dr. McAleese for her leadership, commitment and contribution to the work of the group. Dr. McAleese has played an invaluable part in advancing the future of Gaelic games and delivering the integration project to this significant juncture. She departs her role with the sincere gratitude and good wishes of the entire Gaelic games family.

The next phase of the project will be to distil the substantial and constructive feedback received from a wide range of stakeholders into a refined set of key principles and structures, and to derive a detailed and sequential workplan, all of which will be advanced in 2027.

The GAA remains firmly committed to building a single Association that honours the identity, heritage and contribution of each of our sports while creating a stronger and more inclusive future for the entire Gaelic games family.



I presume that part about contribution reads that what you put into the pot, you will get out of it.




Dougal Maguire

If in doubt play the old misogyny card just like the Zionists throwing in 'antisemitism' when the argument is going against them
Careful now

thewobbler

#41
This be honest not one step of this situation is surprising.

One party is bringing all the stadiums and grounds, nearly all the sponsorship, commercial and media relationships, the vast majority of volunteer labour and a thousand other things like an IT infrastructure and a tv station.

The other two parties are bringing little more than a desire for ownership over things (including finance) that they did not help to create. Which I will admit is an understandable position to want to take. But any new organisation  founded upon a principle that one of its parts must earn the money and another part is just as entitled to spend, well it's going to fail. Because there's really only so long anyone can put up with that situation.

It's not really equality that's on the table here, and it most definitely is not misogyny in action. The real, fundamental problem is that those who have administered camogie and LGFA since the organisations were formed have never really had a stronger short medium or long term vision than "well we want what they have, and if they won't share it with us then they're misogynistic bastards."

thejuice

Quote from: DaleCooper on September 09, 2026, 04:01:39 PMIf youre agin it you are backwards. Are you not for progress?

That's the kind of nuanced thinking that always helps in these situations.

If its genuinely going to work for the benefit of the games then I'm fine with it. I just can see it becoming a bit of mess and in the long run having a stultifying effect on the combined organisation as a whole.

I know there are issues with all of the bodies involved that deserve addressing but it's question of how best to go about that and I'm not sure if this is actually the way.
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

tiempo

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Be interesting to hear Brolly's take on it considering his old mentor MMA making headlines

Smokin Joe

Like a lot of subjects there is nuance.

I was involved with a ladies intercounty team a short while ago and the girls didn't really like to give their gloves away as they personally had to buy replacements for training on Tuesday night.  The young kids who came on to the pitch after games expected to receive gloves, like they do after the mens's games.  The kids don't understand that there is such a difference between the men and ladies.  It is wrong that the ladies didn't feel like they could freely give their gloves away.

But at the same time, economically it is difficult to try to argue that both groups should receive the same financial resources when there is such a difference in the revenue generation of the two bodies.

For me, its all about how those two paragraphs can be squared with each other.