Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Ryan O]

Serious questions for this mamagement team. No plan for kickouts and in two games now the subs at the and of games just look like panic moves that cause confusion. Subbing the subs in two games shows desperation and a serious lack of faith and loyality. I can't see either of those lads committing again for next year and who could blame them. No serious management team is at that sort of stuff. Good luck to trying to get lads to commit to that then get hung out to dry.

I thought Baker would have been a reasonable option off the bench and that was a good enough call by management at half time, on paper.
But are you really suggesting he shouldn't have been took off yesterday? I think the way things were going the only complaint to management is they left him on too long.

Its a massive call and it will test any players mentality and commitment but based on yesterdays performance it was the correct call.

[Topmarks]

I also felt that because we won so little ball from kickouts in the first and second half, we had to do some amount of running. It felt like we were chasing the ball for long spells all day. I felt this contributed to the last 20 mins where it never felt we had another gear or the energy to up it again.

[jb77]

Seems to be some chatter that McFaul was willing to return in January but was told there was no place for him. Can anyone confirm or deny?

He was, before Christmas didn't suit because of the business and newborn. He came in for Glen in preseason in probably the shape of his life tbh

[Topmarks]

Watching big Sargent tonight I could only think if we had him, Eamon Young on a healthy knee and Oisin Doherty a lad who kicked 13 or 14 in a game recently, all playing U20 this year. That's enough talent to brute force any lack of tactics upfront I think lol

Lol there was serious players in the 20s team, a couple of injuries and brutal tactics go a long way to messing that up. What's the deal with Eamon Young, he played a couple of games earlier in the year but never looked right.

[CookieMonster]

Seems to be some chatter that McFaul was willing to return in January but was told there was no place for him. Can anyone confirm or deny?

He was, before Christmas didn't suit because of the business and newborn. He came in for Glen in preseason in probably the shape of his life tbh

Physically the strongest man on the panel, good luck to anybody trying to push him about. We're hardly in a position to be turning him away ffs. Was bad enough when I thought it was his own choice, he'll hardly come back now.

[LoughNeagh]

Seems to be some chatter that McFaul was willing to return in January but was told there was no place for him. Can anyone confirm or deny?

He was, before Christmas didn't suit because of the business and newborn. He came in for Glen in preseason in probably the shape of his life tbh

Physically the strongest man on the panel, good luck to anybody trying to push him about. We're hardly in a position to be turning him away ffs. Was bad enough when I thought it was his own choice, he'll hardly come back now.

Used those skills in the states

[Estimator]

That was a poor performance. We made Meath look v good at times. Concentration was all over the place, spare Meath men in loads of space not being picked up over and over again. Giving away simple turn-overs playing passes that were never on. Lost one from a sideline ball in the second half, and one shortly after as the Derry player had his back to the play - which again happened time and time again. Plus a couple of costly wides in the second half from excellent positions.

Ridiculously slack on the Meath kick out- instead of picking up one Meath player, Derry were passing them from one to the other and running round not knowing who was marking who. And fairly static on our own. McGuckin can't take all the blame for that failure.

I don't think Baker can have any issues about being taken off - think he was done 3 times by the same dummy. The loss of Glass in terms of organisation in the second half can't underestimated either.

Disappointing season. No promotion, no Ulster final. Back to the drawing board - two seasons in and still no better playing with the new rules. When Meath were going forward there was always an outlet in front or off the shoulder. Very rare that happened for Derry. Any runner was isolated very quickly and had to turn back.

Pace wise Meath had the beating of Derry across the board. Even in the first half one of the Meath lads was moving away from Cassidy soloing the ball, while Cassidy was playing catch up. And that's hard to work with.

Talk of changing management is wrong as well - maybe a couple of tweaks in the backroom - but at some point the players have to look at themselves and their performances over the last 3yrs.

We'll win enough to stay in Div 2 next year. But it doesn't look like we'll be challenging for promotion.

[Wildweasel74]

Meath good forwards and a big Midfield, but there Defence is poor. They be beat next day out if they met one of the Div 1 teams. Derry went way bck from even last year, but dont look fit last 15mins, speed wise are slow, i dont see any real tactics, players still getting on,out of form, and the biggest issue, no intensity or bite, Niall O'Donnell come on, showed bite to win 3 balls less than 50/50,which the whole team outside McKinless,had missed the whole game.

[Wildweasel74]

We lost 4 outta the last 6 games since Louth beat us. the games we won, were were poor against Cavan and missed alot against Antrim. Best game was against Cork and i thought then we do sthing this year but just fell away. Look were Cork and Monaghan are at.

[Red10]

Serious questions for this mamagement team. No plan for kickouts and in two games now the subs at the and of games just look like panic moves that cause confusion. Subbing the subs in two games shows desperation and a serious lack of faith and loyality. I can't see either of those lads committing again for next year and who could blame them. No serious management team is at that sort of stuff. Good luck to trying to get lads to commit to that then get hung out to dry.

I thought Baker would have been a reasonable option off the bench and that was a good enough call by management at half time, on paper.
But are you really suggesting he shouldn't have been took off yesterday? I think the way things were going the only complaint to management is they left him on too long.

Its a massive call and it will test any players mentality and commitment but based on yesterdays performance it was the correct call.

If that was the case about being on too long there should have been a lad off after 10 minutes who was roasted 3 or 4 times. I wouldnt advise any fella to go anywhere need this county set up. No loyalty except to the big names and not a clue what they are doing.

[Interstellar]

If the current management are to be judged similar to the last 2 then Meenagh would be out of a job today. Last year we were in the 'group of death' and ran Galway and Dublin close. This year we made average teams look like potential contenders. We are rapidly going backwards. Would things have been any worse if Tally had been given another year? While I like Meenagh and he should be given time it is clear some additional management experience is required. Just look at the backroom staff of other counties? I wonder how much McKaigue is responsible for keeping many of his past teammates on the team despite evidence pointing for a change. We are not far off from the standard when Gallagher took over. You can't tell me that Monaghan, Louth, Westmeath etc have better players than Derry.

[imtommygunn]

Two of those three absolutely do.

[MoneyneenaMunchie]

I tell you something for nothing. Scullion should have been the keeper this year. His kick out game and range far superior to McGuckin

[Ryan O]

Serious questions for this mamagement team. No plan for kickouts and in two games now the subs at the and of games just look like panic moves that cause confusion. Subbing the subs in two games shows desperation and a serious lack of faith and loyality. I can't see either of those lads committing again for next year and who could blame them. No serious management team is at that sort of stuff. Good luck to trying to get lads to commit to that then get hung out to dry.

I thought Baker would have been a reasonable option off the bench and that was a good enough call by management at half time, on paper.
But are you really suggesting he shouldn't have been took off yesterday? I think the way things were going the only complaint to management is they left him on too long.

Its a massive call and it will test any players mentality and commitment but based on yesterdays performance it was the correct call.

If that was the case about being on too long there should have been a lad off after 10 minutes who was roasted 3 or 4 times. I wouldnt advise any fella to go anywhere need this county set up. No loyalty except to the big names and not a clue what they are doing.

I stated on here about 4 months ago that Mc Grogan doesn't have the pace for inter county with the new rules. I was slated and got a trail of reasons why I was completely wrong. That fact remains.

Not being fast enough is of no reflection of the qualities Paudi has a person before the thats not fair crew come running.

[screenexile]

Serious questions for this mamagement team. No plan for kickouts and in two games now the subs at the and of games just look like panic moves that cause confusion. Subbing the subs in two games shows desperation and a serious lack of faith and loyality. I can't see either of those lads committing again for next year and who could blame them. No serious management team is at that sort of stuff. Good luck to trying to get lads to commit to that then get hung out to dry.

I thought Baker would have been a reasonable option off the bench and that was a good enough call by management at half time, on paper.
But are you really suggesting he shouldn't have been took off yesterday? I think the way things were going the only complaint to management is they left him on too long.

Its a massive call and it will test any players mentality and commitment but based on yesterdays performance it was the correct call.

If that was the case about being on too long there should have been a lad off after 10 minutes who was roasted 3 or 4 times. I wouldnt advise any fella to go anywhere need this county set up. No loyalty except to the big names and not a clue what they are doing.

Yeah that's helpful 🙄