The Many Faces of US Politics...

Started by Tyrones own, March 20, 2009, 09:29:14 PM

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seafoid

Quote from: RedHand88 on April 10, 2026, 09:39:20 PM
Quote from: DaleCooper on April 10, 2026, 08:09:38 PM"I know Iran are not our friends"

They are laying their lives down whilst dealing literal death blows to the greatest evil in our world today.

At minimum they deserve to be respected.

They are correct about fighting a Satanic force.

Lad you are deluded. Deluded. It's ok to not like Trump whilst also awknowledging the Iranian regime is a brutal theocracy. They are not mutually exclusive stances.
I think you don't get it. Israel attacked Iran. Israel lobby lured US into this war. Israel is fascist
. Iran is the resistance.

The US lost the war.

seafoid

https://x.com/BallouxFrancois/status/2043087061721452628
Over the last week, Israel has been involved in diplomatic spats with Spain, France, Italy, South Korea, Pakistan and Türkei. This seems unsustainable but will only get worse. Global public opinion has largely turned against Israel, and democratic governments eventually have to take into account the views of their populations.

DaleCooper

Whats disturbing is the US military and body politic is being infected with Israeli ways of operating.

There was a US spokesman repeating the "most moral army" BS IDF goons keep saying.

They are printing articles in NYT now discussing assassinating Iranian officials. Threatening to murder Iranian diplomats on their return from Pakistan.

Thats a fun game, wonder are any other states capable of playing it.

Trump now throwing toys out of the pram, Iranians should have hit the destroyer and got ahead of resumption of hostilities.


bennydorano

#28774
Trump's blockade is a good strategic tactic for a change, it will likely bring Iran back to the table quicker than any bomb, but it is going to mean economic pain for all.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: bennydorano on April 13, 2026, 08:42:10 PMTrump's blockade is a good strategic tactic for a change, it will likely bring Iran to the table quicker than any bomb, but it is going to mean economic pain for all.

To the table
.. they were there before the US/Israel attacked them, they were there for the 10 point ceasefire/ they were there in Pakistan.. I think you mean something else!!!

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: bennydorano on April 13, 2026, 09:15:26 PMBack to

you didnt say "back to". they were at the table already so how is a good strategic tactic to get them back to were they have been before..twice..

do you mean a good strategy to get what the US wants... 

Armagh18

Wouldn't blame Iran if they never went back to the table. US completely negotiating in bad faith.

bennydorano

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 13, 2026, 09:24:06 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 13, 2026, 09:15:26 PMBack to

you didnt say "back to". they were at the table already so how is a good strategic tactic to get them back to were they have been before..twice..

do you mean a good strategy to get what the US wants... 
That's exactly what I mean yes.

Armagh18

Could we get JD Vance in to canvas for FFG and the DUP'ers in the next election? Good to see Orban out.

Milltown Row2

Will the US board Chinese and Russian ships if they go through the strait?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

imtommygunn

Apparently chinese ones are going through already... (apparently though who knows what to believe any more...)

johnnycool

Quote from: imtommygunn on Today at 08:39:39 AMApparently chinese ones are going through already... (apparently though who knows what to believe any more...)

Chinese, Malaysian, Indian, and more were exiting the strait for weeks now once they got approval from Iran.

The others, who supported the US and Israel were not going through.

DaleCooper

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 09:46:08 PMCould we get JD Vance in to canvas for FFG and the DUP'ers in the next election? Good to see Orban out.

The populist right were zionist led from the get go and now anyone associated with Israel/Trump will be punished by voters.

A toxic irredeemable brand

Louther

The Door dash Grandma PR stunt at the White House isn't exactly the look or the win they thought they going for. Not withstanding that the lady used had previously been used in another state for a Republican hearing last year to support the Big Beautiful bill - selling the dream that you can be an old grandmother getting tax free tips by delivering food door to door to help pay for your husbands cancer treatment isn't what people aspire to.

Kinda where we are with the Trump administration at the minute and the level of people involved that what should be a simple message gets screwed up and becomes a point of ridicule.