Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[J70]

Any argument for scrapping the arc and letting 2 pointers be from beyond the 45 only?

Why would this be better?

Hitting a two pointer from out wide is hard enough with the arc. Putting it out of reach for anything except a centre shot will just put us back into packing the middle.

I thought the whole point of the two pointer was to encourage long range score taking and free up space inside.

Conor O'Donnell and the like will not be driving through for those spectacular goals on the run if we go back to jamming up the centre.

[J70]

Two points from kicking the ball over the bar outside the 40 metre arc, where you are under physical or potential physical contact or a block, yes I'm all for it. But not under no physical contact and getting time to execute your technique for a 2 pointer free. Think its just unfair. However I realise if frees were not two pointers team would foul alot more to reduce two pointer opportunities  so I settled what was best for the game and accept the two pointer free. But the two point free when the ball has been brought forward fifty metres, then you get to take the ball back outside the arc for a two pointer is just and an abomination. I watched a number of club games last year in the cship where the breach was questionable and the ball then moved 50m and then to put oil on the fire they get the two pointer option ffs, no way.

Definitely an argument for removing the option for breach frees all right.

[Armagh18]

I rather 2pter be outside the 45 alright, might be rare enough scores, but big score like N Grimley point fews yrs bck.

In the final? Grimley was inside the 45. At most he'd have been a few yards beyond the new arc.

Yeah he definitely was well inside, would have been a mark.

Rian hit an brilliant one against Kerry in the semi from outside the 45, went out and demanded the ball and fired it over at a time we badly needed a score.

[AustinPowers]

I can't stand  the 2 pointer, but I would have compromised and  had it from a  sideline only.

Like they did in  hurling a few years ago.

[Armagh18]

Any argument for scrapping the arc and letting 2 pointers be from beyond the 45 only?

Why would this be better?

Hitting a two pointer from out wide is hard enough with the arc. Putting it out of reach for anything except a centre shot will just put us back into packing the middle.

I thought the whole point of the two pointer was to encourage long range score taking and free up space inside.

Conor O'Donnell and the like will not be driving through for those spectacular goals on the run if we go back to jamming up the centre.

Because theres nothing special about most 2 pointers we're seeing especially from frees, yes they're good scores but too easy to justify 2 points for.

I'd prefer scrapping the 2 pointer altogether but outside the 45 would at least be more challenging and maybe more worthy of 2 points.

[J70]

All I can say is that I hope you lads with your complaints about all the changes represent a small minority.

Because the game is done if it regresses back to anything close to the dire, boring snoozefest it had become a couple of years back.

Just my opinion, obviously, but I'll not be watching, and I'm pretty sure I'll not be the only one.

[gallsman]

Also, they're here to stay. Get over it instead of relentlessly whining.

[Rossfan]

Also, they're here to stay. Get over it instead of relentlessly whining.

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[trueblue1234]

All I can say is that I hope you lads with your complaints about all the changes represent a small minority.

Because the game is done if it regresses back to anything close to the dire, boring snoozefest it had become a couple of years back.

Just my opinion, obviously, but I'll not be watching, and I'm pretty sure I'll not be the only one.

Discussing issues around the new rules isn't clamouring to get back to the way things were. There seems to be a few posters on here that went so arse over face in on how the new rules were the saviour of the sport, that they can't abide any discussion on how there could be any issues with them or that they could be improved.

[J70]

They HAVE saved it!

Tweak them if necessary, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water as some here are suggesting.

[trueblue1234]

I see that as pretty hyperbolic. They improved it. But instead of trying to sort out the flaws with the new rules you have some posters so entrenched on protecting the rules that they want to stop people pointing out any flaws. I don't think any of the posters were claiming to kick out all the rules unless I missed them.

[Armagh18]

I see that as pretty hyperbolic. They improved it. But instead of trying to sort out the flaws with the new rules you have some posters so entrenched on protecting the rules that they want to stop people pointing out any flaws. I don't think any of the posters were claiming to kick out all the rules unless I missed them.

I'd happily scrap them all bar the solo and go. But I accept that's very unlikely.

[J70]

Exhibit A. And Armagh18, good lad he seems to be, is not the only one!

[trueblue1234]

Em he didn't want them all scrapped?

[Armagh18]

Exhibit A. And Armagh18, good lad he seems to be, is not the only one!

Ah look it's personal preference- solo and go the only unqualified success,

2 pointer I can see the appeal obviously, but leaves wind making too much of a difference in games and getting 2 points for what is a tap over free for most free takers is mad (I know why it's necessary)

3 up, again can see the upside, just find it unnatural that a player can be just inside the attacking half soloing the ball on the spot  while theres 3 men not allowed to go and tackle him, another flaw is if a forward makes a run and a ball is kicked towards him he has to stop and wait on the ball coming over the line to him or get a free given against him.

Long kick outs again see the appeal just feel that it is very difficult to get momentum back from a team thats on top, as I've mentioned before the Armagh Kerry game last year, the All Ireland final and the league final this year ended up one sided hammerings due largely to the kickout and 2 point rules, no one as a neutral want's that, I'm sure most would agree that there shouldn't really be much more than a kick of a ball between those 3 teams.

Solo and go, brilliant

Throw up- never an issue, pointless change don't care.

Dissent rule- great in theory but have seen some daft applications of it with frees being moved up 50m and taken out for 2 pointers.

Hooter- daft, not even being applied across all 4 divisions.

Anyway as I say it's personal preference, theres definitely positives with the rules but for me I prefer the old ones, I'll accept I'm in a minority on here. Anyone trying to claim the new rules are perfect and shouldn't be looked at is either stupid or stubborn.