Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[AustinPowers]

I would add the two pointer and three men up as successes. Two pointer keeps the game alive and encourages and rewards the skill of accurate, long range shooting. Three men up obviously helps alleviate the massed ranks across the 45 that was killing the game.

Now, the massed ranks AND the  arc  are killing the game

[didlyi]

The elephant in the room is and always was the handpass and is now an issues in Hurling too. Whats is the fascination with this skillless throw like action? Why are we so afraid that reducing it or illiminating it will somehow make our games worse when in fact its already doing just that. Hooters, shot clocks and endless other rule changes are just working around the real issue.

[delgany]

The 3 man'choke' tackle and 3 men lying on top of a fella trying to pick up the ball, then been done for over carrying is the worst development IMO.
Refs has definitely changed their approach. I can't be having it

[David McKeown]

I have plenty of issues with the new rules and with the exception of the solo and go don't think they have improved the game but they are here for the next while at least so need to get on with it.

On the hooter. I thought the point of it was to ensure that both halfs had as close as is possible the same amount of football. So cynical time wasting was by and large ended. The hooter is excellent at that but clearly has its own problems.

The other things I note is that those who claim to be in favour never seem to agree on which rules they are in favour of as can be easily seen on this thread.

I also think a lot of opinions on the rules are determined by how you enjoy football. Those who watch a lot on TV particularly as a neutral seem more in favour than those who primarily and solely attend games to follow their team.

[trileacman]

Before long a team will push up and regain possession against clock-controlling opponents, and all this kerfuffle will go away.

If the nation's top teams haven't figured out how to do it after 18 months of the rules I doubt it will ever happen.

[trileacman]

95% of "gaeldom" vs GAAboard 7.

So you think the new rules don't need any changes?

[Armagh18]

Before long a team will push up and regain possession against clock-controlling opponents, and all this kerfuffle will go away.

If the nation's top teams haven't figured out how to do it after 18 months of the rules I doubt it will ever happen.

Even if it happens once, in the vast majority of cases it still pays to keep the ball rather than needlessly give it away.

[Armagh18]

95% of "gaeldom" vs GAAboard 7.

So you think the new rules don't need any changes?

Too stubborn to admit that they are shite.

[JoG2]

For me:

Keep
Solo 'n go
3 men up
No keeper pass back
Hooter (if allowed a final play)..or bin it

Bin
2 points
Hand the ball back
Kickouts beyond the big arc
2 men contesting throw in

[trileacman]

So cynical time wasting was by and large ended. The hooter is excellent at that but clearly has its own problems.

After this weekend's league finals I don't think anyone could argue that cynical time-wasting has been eliminated by the clock. In both Cork/Meath and Down/Wexford there was clear examples of time-wasting being used both by the team in possession and the team out of possession to kill the game. Meath used cynical fouls to kill the clock and Down used piggy in the middle to run down 3 minutes of a football match to then boot the ball wide. Likewise the AIF last year was marked by the exact same tactic.

[Rossfan]

95% of "gaeldom" vs GAAboard 7.

So you think the new rules don't need any changes?

Doesn't matter what I think as they've been voted in for 5 years haven't they?

They're a breath of fresh air compared to the stagnant sh1te we endured up to 2024.

[trileacman]

95% of "gaeldom" vs GAAboard 7.

So you think the new rules don't need any changes?

Doesn't matter what I think as they've been voted in for 5 years haven't they?

They're a breath of fresh air compared to the stagnant sh1te we endured up to 2024.

For a guy who thinks his opinion is worth f**k all, you're quick enough to share it.

[David McKeown]

So cynical time wasting was by and large ended. The hooter is excellent at that but clearly has its own problems.

After this weekend's league finals I don't think anyone could argue that cynical time-wasting has been eliminated by the clock. In both Cork/Meath and Down/Wexford there was clear examples of time-wasting being used both by the team in possession and the team out of possession to kill the game. Meath used cynical fouls to kill the clock and Down used piggy in the middle to run down 3 minutes of a football match to then boot the ball wide. Likewise the AIF last year was marked by the exact same tactic.

Sorry when I say cynical time wasting I mean things like substitutions, feigning injury, bringing keepers up to take frees etc. Things for which the clock now stops.

Keep ball can't be considered cynical time wasting as such because the ball is in play. I think it has to be considered smart time management. The Meath systemic fouling might but that's the first time I can recall seeing it this year

[The Boy Wonder]

The problem is that by importing basketball rules into the game (hooters, 2 pointers, half-court restrictions) we bake in basketball tactics as well.

The hooter change was a completely senseless addition to the game, made all the more ridiculous by the fact that the hurling crowd weren't forced to adopt it, highlighting to everyone but the most moronic that added time as it is, isn't really a big issue. A few gobshites who make their coin by whinging (Colm Parkinson, Spillane and Brolly) might have been going on about it but in absence of a better solution it was as good as we were going to get. The hooter in either form is clearly a retrograde step, encouraging leading teams to play boring contest-avoiding, keep-ball. Had the FRC worried about the actual problem (a lack of contests for possession in the game) and not stupid shit like the hooter it would have suited them better.

Likewise for all the vaunted praise of the rule changes only 2 can really be considered a success. The tap and go because it speeds the game up and the kick out restrictions because it increases the number of contestable possessions. To me the restart rules is neither good or bad. I've no gra for the rest of the rule changes which I think don't address any the problems with the game and in most instances create new issues. The proper solution that the FRC should have made as few rules changes as possible (thereby leading to as few unforeseen consequences as possible) and only introducing rule changes that encourage risk-taking, instead of introducing highly specific rules that outlaw certain menial aspects of the game.

I totally agree with above. While some changes have been for the better, e.g. tap and go, there has been so much tinkering with the rules that the pattern of a typical game has changed for the worse.

We used to complain about the lack of definition for the tackle but we can rightly complain nowadays that there is far too little tackling. The scourge of lengthy bouts of handpassing is a blight on the game.

Commentators used to (wrongly) describe wides from distance or awkward angles as poor shot selection.
Skillful forwards such a Jodie Morris and Steven Sherlock can pop over points from distance and awkward angles.
The 2-pointers have had a very detrimental affect on the game with so much back and forth play outside the 40m arc.

[David McKeown]

95% of "gaeldom" vs GAAboard 7.

So you think the new rules don't need any changes?

Doesn't matter what I think as they've been voted in for 5 years haven't they?

They're a breath of fresh air compared to the stagnant sh1te we endured up to 2024.

Do you honestly believe that?  I think it was far more exciting. Games ebbed and flowed a lot better back then. I suppose it's all a matter of preference.