RG at arms length

[quit yo jibbajabba]

It's like Groundhog Day in here

Sure what would you know about films 😜

This one genuinely made my day

Cheers David. You're deffo my favourite solicitor 😆

[quit yo jibbajabba]

This thread feels really nostalgic.. it's a tangible throwback to the days of Tony Fearon.

Saw him tother day on the fb. Making a bad pun. As a lover of bad puns myself I silently forgave him

[trueblue1234]

So you don't find the allegations credible.

That's your problem right there.

Imagine a solicitor looking at it through a clinical legal lens?

The bastard.

I have little interest in debating whether he should be brought to trial or convicted. There's a whole different threshold at play there.

It's about whether Gallagher should be allowed operate in the GAA and certain people are hiding behind legal basis when it's clearly a moral one.

Every thread you touch turns to sh!te. I really hope, for your sake, you manage better in the real word because you are just a pollutant on here that is only interested in destroying discussion not engaging in it. A complete dose.

I'm a pollutant. Sure.

I just happen to the disagree with 50+ right wing conservative bores and neo-liberals fanatics who hold some very dark positions on things like domestic violence, western supremacy.

It could never ever be your world outlook that is the issue....

And that's a great example of why you are such a toxic poster. I should have known better than to comment on any tread you're involved in.

Keep projecting on me. It's probably easier villify me than look at yourself. You're the guy supporting an alleged wife beater. That's the uneasy truth for you so you can continue to attack me if it eases your guilty conscience but it won't actually address the issues you clearly need to.

Pick out one post where I have supporting a wife beater. Do that and I'll continue the chat.

[Hand of God]

So you don't find the allegations credible.

That's your problem right there.

Imagine a solicitor looking at it through a clinical legal lens?

The bastard.

I have little interest in debating whether he should be brought to trial or convicted. There's a whole different threshold at play there.

It's about whether Gallagher should be allowed operate in the GAA and certain people are hiding behind legal basis when it's clearly a moral one.

Every thread you touch turns to sh!te. I really hope, for your sake, you manage better in the real word because you are just a pollutant on here that is only interested in destroying discussion not engaging in it. A complete dose.

I'm a pollutant. Sure.

I just happen to the disagree with 50+ right wing conservative bores and neo-liberals fanatics who hold some very dark positions on things like domestic violence, western supremacy.

It could never ever be your world outlook that is the issue....

And that's a great example of why you are such a toxic poster. I should have known better than to comment on any tread you're involved in.

Keep projecting on me. It's probably easier villify me than look at yourself. You're the guy supporting an alleged wife beater. That's the uneasy truth for you so you can continue to attack me if it eases your guilty conscience but it won't actually address the issues you clearly need to.

Pick out one post where I have supporting a wife beater. Do that and I'll continue the chat.

I said you are supporting an alleged one which you are. Why else are you here arguing against me?

The only reason were arguing here because I support Burns intervention on this, as domestic violence victims do, as safeguarding experts do. We feel that Nicola Gallahger's allegations are credible and therefore they needed to take action.

You're on the other side of the divide - appalled at Rory Gallagher can't pursue his hobby because he's been accused of horrendous allegations against his wife for over a decade.

I'm of view that I feel Nicola Gallagher is the victim here as she is alleging she was beaten viciously for a decade. I find her credible. Do you? You won't answer that..surprise, surprise. Is she making it up? Again you won't answer. You'll ignore those allegations away and focus on poor wee Rory now and how he can't line his pockets on a side hustle.

I'll leave you with this which no doubt you'll ignore.....


However, someone not being charged with a crime is an insufficient reason for them to be allowed to resume a role, said Northern Ireland-based safeguarding expert Marcella Leonard.

The threshold for safeguarding does not come from a court of law, but whether people have concerns about safety, she added.

"The laymen in the street will say: 'He's not been convicted, innocent until proven guilty.'

"However regarding safeguarding, if there are concerns then there is a duty and responsibility to protect people."

She said while she welcomed the president's intervention, her concern was over why Naas "thought it was ok to do this".

Ms Leonard highlighted the Republic of Ireland's lack of strong adult safeguarding legislation, in contrast to Northern Ireland, and the need for a the GAA to take a consistent approach so that clubs can act with confidence.

She said it was up to the GAA to set policy that gives clubs and members "a better understanding of legal issues versus safeguarding concerns".

"I'd like to see a concerted, proactive effort to ensure a consistent approach to safeguarding that includes ladies football and camogie," she added.

Of course you'll disagree with safeguarding expert I suppose?

[David McKeown]

It's like Groundhog Day in here

Sure what would you know about films 😜

This one genuinely made my day

He's just annoyed  at me because I haven't seen the Godfather trilogy

I thought it was a clever pun

[trueblue1234]

So you don't find the allegations credible.

That's your problem right there.

Imagine a solicitor looking at it through a clinical legal lens?

The bastard.

I have little interest in debating whether he should be brought to trial or convicted. There's a whole different threshold at play there.

It's about whether Gallagher should be allowed operate in the GAA and certain people are hiding behind legal basis when it's clearly a moral one.

Every thread you touch turns to sh!te. I really hope, for your sake, you manage better in the real word because you are just a pollutant on here that is only interested in destroying discussion not engaging in it. A complete dose.

I'm a pollutant. Sure.

I just happen to the disagree with 50+ right wing conservative bores and neo-liberals fanatics who hold some very dark positions on things like domestic violence, western supremacy.

It could never ever be your world outlook that is the issue....

And that's a great example of why you are such a toxic poster. I should have known better than to comment on any tread you're involved in.

Keep projecting on me. It's probably easier villify me than look at yourself. You're the guy supporting an alleged wife beater. That's the uneasy truth for you so you can continue to attack me if it eases your guilty conscience but it won't actually address the issues you clearly need to.

Pick out one post where I have supporting a wife beater. Do that and I'll continue the chat.

I said you are supporting an alleged one which you are. Why else are you here arguing against me?

The only reason were arguing here because I support Burns intervention on this, as domestic violence victims do, as safeguarding experts do. We feel that Nicola Gallahger's allegations are credible and therefore they needed to take action.

You're on the other side of the divide - appalled at Rory Gallagher can't pursue his hobby because he's been accused of horrendous allegations against his wife for over a decade.

I'm of view that I feel Nicola Gallagher is the victim here as she is alleging she was beaten viciously for a decade. I find her credible. Do you? You won't answer that..surprise, surprise. Is she making it up? Again you won't answer. You'll ignore those allegations away and focus on poor wee Rory now and how he can't line his pockets on a side hustle.

I'll leave you with this which no doubt you'll ignore.....


However, someone not being charged with a crime is an insufficient reason for them to be allowed to resume a role, said Northern Ireland-based safeguarding expert Marcella Leonard.

The threshold for safeguarding does not come from a court of law, but whether people have concerns about safety, she added.

"The laymen in the street will say: 'He's not been convicted, innocent until proven guilty.'

"However regarding safeguarding, if there are concerns then there is a duty and responsibility to protect people."

She said while she welcomed the president's intervention, her concern was over why Naas "thought it was ok to do this".

Ms Leonard highlighted the Republic of Ireland's lack of strong adult safeguarding legislation, in contrast to Northern Ireland, and the need for a the GAA to take a consistent approach so that clubs can act with confidence.

She said it was up to the GAA to set policy that gives clubs and members "a better understanding of legal issues versus safeguarding concerns".

"I'd like to see a concerted, proactive effort to ensure a consistent approach to safeguarding that includes ladies football and camogie," she added.

Of course you'll disagree with safeguarding expert I suppose?

Didn't find one then? Funny that! Feel free to read back on my posts on this thread and if you have an issue with one of them, quote it and I'll happily discuss something I've said, not what you want me to have said. The strawman arguments can gtf.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

It's like Groundhog Day in here

Sure what would you know about films 😜

This one genuinely made my day

He's just annoyed  at me because I haven't seen the Godfather trilogy

I thought it was a clever pun

I agree

And it was someone else gave off to him about his film opinions 😉😊

[Hand of God]

So you don't find the allegations credible.

That's your problem right there.

Imagine a solicitor looking at it through a clinical legal lens?

The bastard.

I have little interest in debating whether he should be brought to trial or convicted. There's a whole different threshold at play there.

It's about whether Gallagher should be allowed operate in the GAA and certain people are hiding behind legal basis when it's clearly a moral one.

Every thread you touch turns to sh!te. I really hope, for your sake, you manage better in the real word because you are just a pollutant on here that is only interested in destroying discussion not engaging in it. A complete dose.

I'm a pollutant. Sure.

I just happen to the disagree with 50+ right wing conservative bores and neo-liberals fanatics who hold some very dark positions on things like domestic violence, western supremacy.

It could never ever be your world outlook that is the issue....

And that's a great example of why you are such a toxic poster. I should have known better than to comment on any tread you're involved in.

Keep projecting on me. It's probably easier villify me than look at yourself. You're the guy supporting an alleged wife beater. That's the uneasy truth for you so you can continue to attack me if it eases your guilty conscience but it won't actually address the issues you clearly need to.

Pick out one post where I have supporting a wife beater. Do that and I'll continue the chat.

I said you are supporting an alleged one which you are. Why else are you here arguing against me?

The only reason were arguing here because I support Burns intervention on this, as domestic violence victims do, as safeguarding experts do. We feel that Nicola Gallahger's allegations are credible and therefore they needed to take action.

You're on the other side of the divide - appalled at Rory Gallagher can't pursue his hobby because he's been accused of horrendous allegations against his wife for over a decade.

I'm of view that I feel Nicola Gallagher is the victim here as she is alleging she was beaten viciously for a decade. I find her credible. Do you? You won't answer that..surprise, surprise. Is she making it up? Again you won't answer. You'll ignore those allegations away and focus on poor wee Rory now and how he can't line his pockets on a side hustle.

I'll leave you with this which no doubt you'll ignore.....


However, someone not being charged with a crime is an insufficient reason for them to be allowed to resume a role, said Northern Ireland-based safeguarding expert Marcella Leonard.

The threshold for safeguarding does not come from a court of law, but whether people have concerns about safety, she added.

"The laymen in the street will say: 'He's not been convicted, innocent until proven guilty.'

"However regarding safeguarding, if there are concerns then there is a duty and responsibility to protect people."

She said while she welcomed the president's intervention, her concern was over why Naas "thought it was ok to do this".

Ms Leonard highlighted the Republic of Ireland's lack of strong adult safeguarding legislation, in contrast to Northern Ireland, and the need for a the GAA to take a consistent approach so that clubs can act with confidence.

She said it was up to the GAA to set policy that gives clubs and members "a better understanding of legal issues versus safeguarding concerns".

"I'd like to see a concerted, proactive effort to ensure a consistent approach to safeguarding that includes ladies football and camogie," she added.

Of course you'll disagree with safeguarding expert I suppose?

Didn't find one then? Funny that! Feel free to read back on my posts on this thread and if you have an issue with one of them, quote it and I'll happily discuss something I've said, not what you want me to have said. The strawman arguments can gtf.

You're clearly not very bright. You just refused to answer whether you thought Nicola Gallahger's allegations are credible. You are in this thread because you are angry at Jarlath Burns preventing a guy with sickening allegations against him from coaching in the GAA. You believe he is the victim and you continue to ignore the words of his ex wife.

I'll ask you again. Do you find Nicola Gallahger's allegations credible? Here is the view of an expert in safeguarding.

Why do you disagree with her? Do you have a problem with women in general?

"However regarding safeguarding, if there are concerns then there is a duty and responsibility to protect people."

She said while she welcomed the president's intervention, her concern was over why Naas "thought it was ok to do this".

The only people that seem to back Gallahger in this are a number of conservative white men in their 50s and we seem to have a lot of people with your 1960s world view on this forum.

[Armagh18]

I don't think theres a safegaurding issue around Gallagher at all if he's not taking womens teams. It's more to do with him being a sc**bag.

There needs to be a process in place for things like this and as much as I can't stand the man, Burns can't be going off on solo runs like that. And before that other dose replies with an essay I'm not a zionist or a conservative or whatever other bile you come out with.

[Hand of God]

I don't think theres a safegaurding issue around Gallagher at all if he's not taking womens teams. It's more to do with him being a sc**bag.

There needs to be a process in place for things like this and as much as I can't stand the man, Burns can't be going off on solo runs like that. And before that other dose replies with an essay I'm not a zionist or a conservative or whatever other bile you come out with.

You're just a person who disagrees with a safeguarding expert on safeguarding, domestic violence victims on their views on how allegations aren't taken seriously and the GAA president on how he runs the GAA.

The biggest issue you can't be arsed to address is that Burns would never have needed to act if clubs like Naas and Corduff didn't act disgracefully.

[Derry Man]

I don't think theres a safegaurding issue around Gallagher at all if he's not taking womens teams. It's more to do with him being a sc**bag.

There needs to be a process in place for things like this and as much as I can't stand the man, Burns can't be going off on solo runs like that. And before that other dose replies with an essay I'm not a zionist or a conservative or whatever other bile you come out with.

You're just a person who disagrees with a safeguarding expert on safeguarding, domestic violence victims on their views on how allegations aren't taken seriously and the GAA president on how he runs the GAA.

The biggest issue you can't be arsed to address is that Burns would never have needed to act if clubs like Naas and Corduff didn't act disgracefully.

Can you point me in the direction of your posts about your former All Ireland winning manager providing a character reference for a convicted Rapist? Do you not regard that as a safeguarding issue?

[nrico2006]

So you don't find the allegations credible.

That's your problem right there.

Imagine a solicitor looking at it through a clinical legal lens?

The bastard.

I have little interest in debating whether he should be brought to trial or convicted. There's a whole different threshold at play there.

It's about whether Gallagher should be allowed operate in the GAA and certain people are hiding behind legal basis when it's clearly a moral one.

Every thread you touch turns to sh!te. I really hope, for your sake, you manage better in the real word because you are just a pollutant on here that is only interested in destroying discussion not engaging in it. A complete dose.

I'm a pollutant. Sure.

I just happen to the disagree with 50+ right wing conservative bores and neo-liberals fanatics who hold some very dark positions on things like domestic violence, western supremacy.

It could never ever be your world outlook that is the issue....

And that's a great example of why you are such a toxic poster. I should have known better than to comment on any tread you're involved in.

Keep projecting on me. It's probably easier villify me than look at yourself. You're the guy supporting an alleged wife beater. That's the uneasy truth for you so you can continue to attack me if it eases your guilty conscience but it won't actually address the issues you clearly need to.

This is not healthy behaviour lad. Go outside for a walk or get another hobby.

Dismissing domestic violence victims is certainly not healthy behaviour.

But I'm the one who needs to go out for a walk apparently.

This forum is clearly an echo chamber for conservatives stuck in the 1960s.

It's the views on this forum with regard to this matter which is massively out of step. I don't think you'd find so massive support for Gallagher across many otte areas or Irish society.

Apparently I'm the issue here though. Interesting.

Show one single person on here who has dismissed domestic violence victims.

Ok.

Litmus test.

Do you find Nicola Gallahger's allegations credible. Yes or no?

If you don't you are dismissing domestic violence victims.

Maybe you should listen to how domestic violence victims and how they feel about Rory Gallagher operating in the GAA? I'm pretty sure you'll dismiss their opinions though.

Hilarious.

"Do you agree with my opinion?

If you dont, you are wrong."

[GTP]

"I'd like to see a concerted, proactive effort to ensure a consistent approach to safeguarding that includes ladies football and camogie,"
The safeguarding expert HoG quotes seems to be implying that the GAA doesn't have a consistent approach, which many have stated is their objection to the treatment of RG by the GAA president.
And not because they condone domestic violence or do not find the allegations credible.
RG left his last inter county job nearly 3 years ago. The Naas / Burns intervention 1 year ago, the allegations go back to incidents over 25 years ago.
I know it is hypocritical given I am posting on this thread but why are we wasting our time on this issue? (And by that I mean RG not domestic abuse)

[trueblue1234]

So you don't find the allegations credible.

That's your problem right there.

Imagine a solicitor looking at it through a clinical legal lens?

The bastard.

I have little interest in debating whether he should be brought to trial or convicted. There's a whole different threshold at play there.

It's about whether Gallagher should be allowed operate in the GAA and certain people are hiding behind legal basis when it's clearly a moral one.

Every thread you touch turns to sh!te. I really hope, for your sake, you manage better in the real word because you are just a pollutant on here that is only interested in destroying discussion not engaging in it. A complete dose.

I'm a pollutant. Sure.

I just happen to the disagree with 50+ right wing conservative bores and neo-liberals fanatics who hold some very dark positions on things like domestic violence, western supremacy.

It could never ever be your world outlook that is the issue....

And that's a great example of why you are such a toxic poster. I should have known better than to comment on any tread you're involved in.

Keep projecting on me. It's probably easier villify me than look at yourself. You're the guy supporting an alleged wife beater. That's the uneasy truth for you so you can continue to attack me if it eases your guilty conscience but it won't actually address the issues you clearly need to.

Pick out one post where I have supporting a wife beater. Do that and I'll continue the chat.

I said you are supporting an alleged one which you are. Why else are you here arguing against me?

The only reason were arguing here because I support Burns intervention on this, as domestic violence victims do, as safeguarding experts do. We feel that Nicola Gallahger's allegations are credible and therefore they needed to take action.

You're on the other side of the divide - appalled at Rory Gallagher can't pursue his hobby because he's been accused of horrendous allegations against his wife for over a decade.

I'm of view that I feel Nicola Gallagher is the victim here as she is alleging she was beaten viciously for a decade. I find her credible. Do you? You won't answer that..surprise, surprise. Is she making it up? Again you won't answer. You'll ignore those allegations away and focus on poor wee Rory now and how he can't line his pockets on a side hustle.

I'll leave you with this which no doubt you'll ignore.....


However, someone not being charged with a crime is an insufficient reason for them to be allowed to resume a role, said Northern Ireland-based safeguarding expert Marcella Leonard.

The threshold for safeguarding does not come from a court of law, but whether people have concerns about safety, she added.

"The laymen in the street will say: 'He's not been convicted, innocent until proven guilty.'

"However regarding safeguarding, if there are concerns then there is a duty and responsibility to protect people."

She said while she welcomed the president's intervention, her concern was over why Naas "thought it was ok to do this".

Ms Leonard highlighted the Republic of Ireland's lack of strong adult safeguarding legislation, in contrast to Northern Ireland, and the need for a the GAA to take a consistent approach so that clubs can act with confidence.

She said it was up to the GAA to set policy that gives clubs and members "a better understanding of legal issues versus safeguarding concerns".

"I'd like to see a concerted, proactive effort to ensure a consistent approach to safeguarding that includes ladies football and camogie," she added.

Of course you'll disagree with safeguarding expert I suppose?

Didn't find one then? Funny that! Feel free to read back on my posts on this thread and if you have an issue with one of them, quote it and I'll happily discuss something I've said, not what you want me to have said. The strawman arguments can gtf.

You're clearly not very bright. You just refused to answer whether you thought Nicola Gallahger's allegations are credible. You are in this thread because you are angry at Jarlath Burns preventing a guy with sickening allegations against him from coaching in the GAA. You believe he is the victim and you continue to ignore the words of his ex wife.

I'll ask you again. Do you find Nicola Gallahger's allegations credible? Here is the view of an expert in safeguarding.

Why do you disagree with her? Do you have a problem with women in general?

"However regarding safeguarding, if there are concerns then there is a duty and responsibility to protect people."

She said while she welcomed the president's intervention, her concern was over why Naas "thought it was ok to do this".

The only people that seem to back Gallahger in this are a number of conservative white men in their 50s and we seem to have a lot of people with your 1960s world view on this forum.

You didn't read back through my posts did you? Still building those strawmen.
Once you drop those we can talk.

[Armagh18]

I don't think theres a safegaurding issue around Gallagher at all if he's not taking womens teams. It's more to do with him being a sc**bag.

There needs to be a process in place for things like this and as much as I can't stand the man, Burns can't be going off on solo runs like that. And before that other dose replies with an essay I'm not a zionist or a conservative or whatever other bile you come out with.

You're just a person who disagrees with a safeguarding expert on safeguarding, domestic violence victims on their views on how allegations aren't taken seriously and the GAA president on how he runs the GAA.

The biggest issue you can't be arsed to address is that Burns would never have needed to act if clubs like Naas and Corduff didn't act disgracefully.

Not sure why I bother but anyway. Realistically what safeguarding issues are there with Gallagher? Do you really think he'll lay hands on a player in Naas? I'd say he'd get his jaw spun if he tried it!

Separate issue to him being a sc**bag that shouldn't be allowed near the place and if you think that then that's absolutely fair enough. As plenty of others have said here theres not enough evidence to categorically state that Gallagher did what was alleged and of course theres not enough evidence to state that his wife is lying, I don't know the truth and neither do you.

The GAA should have a process for dealing with this sort of thing and process shouldn't be Burns going off on a solo run, say what you want about Burns but he rightly or wrongly will go with his believes and while I often don't agree with him I do admire the man.

What that process should be I'll leave for smarter minds than my own to define.