NFL Division 1

[J70]

That's the first time Joe O'Connor has been stopped in the last 18 months.

Took two giant men to do it!

[JoG2]

That's the first time Joe O'Connor has been stopped in the last 18 months.

Anyone can be stopped if fouled

[J70]

We're giving away a lot of frees.

[5times5times]

Hope goldrick knows if st.micheal gets a cramp he must stop the game

[Blowitupref]

Monaghan leading the potential relegation four pointer at half time in Dr Hyde Park.  Roscommon 1-6 Monaghan 1-8.  Beggan among others back for Monaghan.

[J70]

Hope goldrick knows if st.micheal gets a cramp he must stop the game

Awh bless.

[David McKeown]

The advantage rule has become a nonsense.

[David McKeown]

Hard to concede three goals against a team like Galway and still be in the game.  Armagh have a lot to work on in that regard. No one to blame but themselves in not winning last night,

On the referee I thought he was spectacularly inconsistent I could understand why the black card might have been yellow but how was the yellow a minute later not black?

On the last free I would need to see it again but it looked to me like Cassidy had the hand up indicating an advantage, if he did then the free shouldn't have been moved if he didn't then it was brainless from McQuillan hopefully he will learn.

As for the breach offence that lead to the goal, as stupid as the rule is I think that was by rule the correct decision.  McElroy was not carrying, receiving or intercepting the ball or attempting to do so therefore the 20m free is the punishment.  That said I will make 2 points about that.  Firstly it is far too severe a punishment for the offence and as seen last night has the potential to change games for innocuous offence.  Secondly Armagh  scored a point in the first half during a clear Galway breach why weren't they offered a choice of a 20m free or a 2 point free.  The advantage rule needs looked at in that regard.

So whilst I thought Cassidy wasn't good last night and isn't a great ref I wouldn't blame the defeat on him.

As I understand it Creally and McCambridge are back training and McKay and McMullen will be back for later stages of league/start of championship.  All will be needed I feel as Armagh whilst still in the second or third group of teams have a difficult season ahead of them.

Finally and not to go back to it again but with the exception of the solo and go I do not like the new rules at all.  I think they take away from many of the skills of the game.  I think they devalue great scoring and I think they do not reward better teams who dominate games for long periods (not a reference to last night).  I also think they are very hard to follow if you are at the games.   

The ref didn't cost us the game but the breach call on Joe was the wrong decision apparently. Admittedly I didn't see it. It going by what has been said since it was. At worst a free form had way

Couldn't have been a free from the half way line. It was either not a breach or it was the correct decision. Frees from the half way line are only for deliberate breaches.

[tonto1888]

Hard to concede three goals against a team like Galway and still be in the game.  Armagh have a lot to work on in that regard. No one to blame but themselves in not winning last night,

On the referee I thought he was spectacularly inconsistent I could understand why the black card might have been yellow but how was the yellow a minute later not black?

On the last free I would need to see it again but it looked to me like Cassidy had the hand up indicating an advantage, if he did then the free shouldn't have been moved if he didn't then it was brainless from McQuillan hopefully he will learn.

As for the breach offence that lead to the goal, as stupid as the rule is I think that was by rule the correct decision.  McElroy was not carrying, receiving or intercepting the ball or attempting to do so therefore the 20m free is the punishment.  That said I will make 2 points about that.  Firstly it is far too severe a punishment for the offence and as seen last night has the potential to change games for innocuous offence.  Secondly Armagh  scored a point in the first half during a clear Galway breach why weren't they offered a choice of a 20m free or a 2 point free.  The advantage rule needs looked at in that regard.

So whilst I thought Cassidy wasn't good last night and isn't a great ref I wouldn't blame the defeat on him.

As I understand it Creally and McCambridge are back training and McKay and McMullen will be back for later stages of league/start of championship.  All will be needed I feel as Armagh whilst still in the second or third group of teams have a difficult season ahead of them.

Finally and not to go back to it again but with the exception of the solo and go I do not like the new rules at all.  I think they take away from many of the skills of the game.  I think they devalue great scoring and I think they do not reward better teams who dominate games for long periods (not a reference to last night).  I also think they are very hard to follow if you are at the games.   

The ref didn't cost us the game but the breach call on Joe was the wrong decision apparently. Admittedly I didn't see it. It going by what has been said since it was. At worst a free form had way

Couldn't have been a free from the half way line. It was either not a breach or it was the correct decision. Frees from the half way line are only for deliberate breaches.

Only going by what is been said afterwards but if he's not interfering it should have been from the half way
A free from half way for a deliberate breech doesn't make sense

[David McKeown]

Hard to concede three goals against a team like Galway and still be in the game.  Armagh have a lot to work on in that regard. No one to blame but themselves in not winning last night,

On the referee I thought he was spectacularly inconsistent I could understand why the black card might have been yellow but how was the yellow a minute later not black?

On the last free I would need to see it again but it looked to me like Cassidy had the hand up indicating an advantage, if he did then the free shouldn't have been moved if he didn't then it was brainless from McQuillan hopefully he will learn.

As for the breach offence that lead to the goal, as stupid as the rule is I think that was by rule the correct decision.  McElroy was not carrying, receiving or intercepting the ball or attempting to do so therefore the 20m free is the punishment.  That said I will make 2 points about that.  Firstly it is far too severe a punishment for the offence and as seen last night has the potential to change games for innocuous offence.  Secondly Armagh  scored a point in the first half during a clear Galway breach why weren't they offered a choice of a 20m free or a 2 point free.  The advantage rule needs looked at in that regard.

So whilst I thought Cassidy wasn't good last night and isn't a great ref I wouldn't blame the defeat on him.

As I understand it Creally and McCambridge are back training and McKay and McMullen will be back for later stages of league/start of championship.  All will be needed I feel as Armagh whilst still in the second or third group of teams have a difficult season ahead of them.

Finally and not to go back to it again but with the exception of the solo and go I do not like the new rules at all.  I think they take away from many of the skills of the game.  I think they devalue great scoring and I think they do not reward better teams who dominate games for long periods (not a reference to last night).  I also think they are very hard to follow if you are at the games.   

The ref didn't cost us the game but the breach call on Joe was the wrong decision apparently. Admittedly I didn't see it. It going by what has been said since it was. At worst a free form had way

Couldn't have been a free from the half way line. It was either not a breach or it was the correct decision. Frees from the half way line are only for deliberate breaches.

Only going by what is been said afterwards but if he's not interfering it should have been from the half way
A free from half way for a deliberate breech doesn't make sense

Yes what's been said has been wrong.

As stupid as it is. Deliberate breaches are frees from half way line  Accidental breaches are 20m frees that can be taken outside.

2.14 During play, a team must have at least four players (which may include the goalkeeper) in their half of the
field and at least three outfield players in the opposition half of the field.

Exception:
A breach of this Rule does not occur where the player(s) who would otherwise cause the breach
(a) have do so unintentionally
(b) are within 4m of the halfway line
(c) are not interfering with play
(d) are not interfering with the opponent, and
(e) are not gaining an advantage


4.35 To commit a breach of Rule 2.14 (Set Play) in the act of carrying, receiving or intercepting the ball, or attempting to do so.
Penalty
Free kick from the place where the player crossed the halfway line.

4.36 To commit a breach of Rule 2.14 (Set Play) other than in the circumstances outlined in Rule 4.35.
Penalty
Free kick from the centre point of the offending team's 20m line. However, the opponents of the team conceding the
foul may take a free kick from any point outside the 40m arc.

[JoG2]

Gough letting alot go

[gallsman]

Donegal should have won that pulling up for the last 25 mins but had to see it out. Awful goal to give away towards the end.

[Tubberman]

Worst Dublin performance I've seen in Castlebar. Mayo weren't great, won by 6 and left an awful lot behind

[J70]

Donegal should have won that pulling up for the last 25 mins but had to see it out. Awful goal to give away towards the end.

Wee bit of panic set in there. "Anywhere will do!" Don't t think I've ever seen us give away so many frees either. Seanie O'Shea must have thought Christmas came early.

f**k it. Two points, need another four to ensure survival.

We've been fortunate the past few years getting Kerry early on before they get their full squad out. Poor Paddy Carr even beat them, for what THAT was worth!

[Wildweasel74]

Watching the goal O'Connor came from behind the Keeper. Had be in the square b4 it was kicked.