What does Iraq, Libya and Venezuela have in common?

[Hand of God]

The same chaps who are all for Ukranian sovereignty have no care for Venezuela surprisingly.

[RedHand88]

The same chaps who are all for Ukranian sovereignty have no care for Venezuela surprisingly.

And the Russians who have no time for Ukrainian soverignity are suddenly so concerned for Venezuelas soverignity.

[Hand of God]

The same chaps who are all for Ukranian sovereignty have no care for Venezuela surprisingly.

And the Russians who have no time for Ukrainian soverignity are suddenly so concerned for Venezuelas soverignity.

I'm not about Americans here. I'm should neo-liberals across the general West and Europe who pretend to care about humanity and freedom when it comes to Ukraine but I'm reality just wants power and control and Western aligned rulers.

This isn't just Trump, the US have been targeting Venezuela for decades. Why is criticism of the West illogically taken as support for Russia. You seem a bit conflicted by your own double standards?

Will the EU place sanctions on the US now? Or will they actually row in behind and legitimize another Western backed genocide, coup or land or resources grab?

The West have clearly brainwashed you into believing we are the good guys and kill people for liberty and freedom.

[gallsman]

Venezuela has long battled with the extent of poverty and had been making good progress under Chavez until the coup and then his ultimate death. Replaced by Maduro, his social welfare programme has (too) slowly been distributing the wealth despite what you're going to hear in the foreseeable weeks and months by the propaganda machines in the media.

This is patently false. Know many Venezuelans, do you?

Barbaric stuff from the Americans, driven by the whims of a senile egomaniac.

[Milltown Row2]

The same chaps who are all for Ukranian sovereignty have no care for Venezuela surprisingly.

f**king take a day off would ya?

[J70]

I've been completely out of the loop with World News/Social media.. Detox'd because it would depress ya.

Could some explain why Trumps actioned that on Venezuela? Obviously oil at the deep cause but what's been going on

They have been attacking Venezuelan ships for some time now on the basis that they were smuggling drugs into the US. The attacks were clearly a building block to allow to support a coup to access oil resources.

Yeah, doesn't like Americans being poisoned / killed by those importing cocaine #Hernández

I think America has had enough suppliers of Cocaine over the years and who didn't get bombed though that kind of puts a massive hole in that piece of propaganda you've bitten right into.

Umm, I think JOG2's point is that the drugs is a bullshit figleaf.

Trump just released Juan Hernandez, former president of Honduras, last month, right at the start of a 25 year prison sentence for his involvement in drug trafficking through his country.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Venezuela has long battled with the extent of poverty and had been making good progress under Chavez until the coup and then his ultimate death. Replaced by Maduro, his social welfare programme has (too) slowly been distributing the wealth despite what you're going to hear in the foreseeable weeks and months by the propaganda machines in the media.

This is patently false. Know many Venezuelans, do you?

Barbaric stuff from the Americans, driven by the whims of a senile egomaniac.

as predicted by himself the resident Venezuelan experts have arrived.

Kallas already out with an embarrassing EU statement

[gallsman]

Ah sure look who it is! What the flying f**k does a gobshite like you know about Venezuela or the Venezuelan people?! Absolutely f**king nothing.

Chavez pissed away his transformational legacy a few years after coming to power. Maduro made sure he drove it into the ground. Venezuela is, completely needlessly, a failed state, wracked by overwhelming poverty, corruption, state violence, crime and mass emigration.

None of which in anyway excuses or justifies the yankee imperialism. It's an oil grab. Nothing more.

[RedHand88]

I worked with a Venezuelan girl from 2014-15, her family had fled after Maduro came to power in 2013. He is not a nice guy.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Ah sure look who it is! What the flying f**k does a gobshite like you know about Venezuela or the Venezuelan people?! Absolutely f**king nothing.

Chavez pissed away his transformational legacy a few years after coming to power. Maduro made sure he drove it into the ground. Venezuela is, completely needlessly, a failed state, wracked by overwhelming poverty, corruption, state violence, crime and mass emigration.

None of which in anyway excuses or justifies the yankee imperialism. It's an oil grab. Nothing more.

looks who immediately goes to insults.. where have i commented on it...

i just called out your hypocrisy... the resident board expert... you are the biggest pathetic knob going... god help those around around you if you are even tiny bit as obnoxious as you are on here...

i wouldnt usually go down the insult route but for you, ill make an exception

[gallsman]

Away and shite you absolute sap. Back to pray at the altar of your idolised socialist revolutionaries such as, um, Mick f**king Wallace. Ask him to pay his taxes while you're chatting to him. When it comes to anything beyond managing to wipe you're own hole you're about as knowledgeable as Danny Dyer FFS.

Leave the discussions on politics and world affairs to lads who achieved a reading level beyond the Beano.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Away and shite you absolute sap. Back to pray at the altar of your idolised socialist revolutionaries such as, um, Mick f**king Wallace. Ask him to pay his taxes while you're chatting to him. When it comes to anything beyond managing to wipe you're own hole you're about as knowledgeable as Danny Dyer FFS.

Leave the discussions on politics and world affairs to lads who achieved a reading level beyond the Beano.

bringing out the big insults now...


the big man on the forum...  you know nothing about me but as ever just demean, insult and dismiss

what an unbearable f**ker you must be for everyone in your life... pathetic little man.

[gallsman]

"Bringing out the insults" you yap about, having landed in here for the first time in weeks with nothing but ill-informed snark. Stick your misguided self righteousness up your hole, you absolute f**king loser.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

"Bringing out the insults" you yap about, having landed in here for the first time in weeks with nothing but ill-informed snark. Stick your misguided self righteousness up your hole, you absolute f**king loser.

i need to post daily to share an opinion or comment now.. sorry master!!!

the snark was when you posted that the resident experts would be on to comment on Venezuela on the other thread  and then you yourself chime in here... hypocrite.. and then as always demean insult dismiss name call... deluded little man

[gallsman]

The difference is I do know things in relation to Venezuela. I work with Venezuelans. I live around them. My kids go to school with them.

You, on the other hand, and almost certainly all the other "experts" as, yes, I sarcastically belittled them, know nothing. Absolutely f**king nothing. Forming your opinions from Wikipedia and Twitter.  America = bad, therefore anyone America in conflict with = good. What are you, an infant?!

But by all means fire ahead and defend Maduro and the incredibly fair, just and equal socialist paradise that he was well on the way to building if only those pesky Americans hadn't got involved.