Premier League 2025-26

Started by Dire Ear, August 15, 2025, 04:06:09 PM

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Tony Baloney

According to ChatGPT there has been a steady decline. Yes LB, you are spot on that it seems to be xG-driven. There are few things better in the game than the ball ratting the stanchion from 25 yards.


ChatGPT said:
Yes — there is publicly available data showing that both the frequency of shots from outside the penalty box and the proportion of goals scored from outside the box in the English Premier League have generally declined over the years. This comes from aggregated match data tracked by Opta, the Premier League itself, and analytical sites that compile shooting locations. Here's what the stats show:

📉 Fewer Shots From Outside the Box Over Time
In the 2024–25 Premier League season, the league saw the lowest number of shots from outside the box on record (since at least 2003–04), with about 8.3 shots per game from outside the penalty area. The percentage of total shots taken from outside the box was also at a record low (31.7%).
Opta Analyst
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Historical data confirms a steady decline over time: in the early 2000s, teams averaged around 13.3 shots from outside the box per game, whereas recent seasons have been below 9–10 per game.
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📉 Trend in Goals From Outside the Box
Goals scored from outside the box now make up a smaller share of total goals compared with past years.

In the 2023–24 season, only about 12.4% of non-penalty goals came from outside the box, and this has generally been lower than in earlier decades (e.g., ~20% above in the mid-2000s).

While the absolute number of goals from long range can vary year-to-year, the relative share of goals from distance has declined compared with earlier eras.

📊 Why the Drop?
Several football analytics trends help explain this shift:

Expected goals (xG) analysis shows that shots closer to goal have a much higher chance of scoring than long-range attempts, leading teams to prioritize better shooting locations over speculative long shots.

Modern tactical approaches and build-up play also emphasize working the ball into the box rather than shooting quickly from far out.

RedHand88

Quote from: lurganblue on December 29, 2025, 09:09:06 AMIt's the XG lot. Villa have scored a right few from outside the box recently and the XG crowd are on saying you cant shoot from there as there is a 0.02 chance of scoring.  That was the exact XG for the rogers goal v west ham. I'd bet good money that Rogers scores from that same position with Areola in nets more than 2 times out of 100.

Teams buy into this crap now though and are told to not take on "low percentage shots".

I read "How to win the Premier League" recently, the author is a fella who was one of the pioneers of this stuff.
It was sort of interesting at the start but it just got more and more convoluted. There is a star that is different from xG that takes into account the trajectory of the ball right after the ball is kicked, whereas xG just takes into account player positions. It is mental stuff.

Blowitupref

Quote from: gawa316 on December 29, 2025, 02:07:29 AMAre free kick goals a way done as well?

Amount of free kicks scored so far this season. 13 clubs hasn't scored one yet.

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Blowitupref

The Aston Villa unbeaten run has come to a end with a bang against Arsenal tonight.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

laoislad

Wolves win only their 3rd point of the season 👍
Nordie Tayto is shite

Capt Pat

Chelsea struggling after winning the club world cup. I didn't think it would do them any good playing an extra tournament in the summer when other clubs were resting and preparing for a new season.

square_ball

Quote from: laoislad on December 30, 2025, 10:17:23 PMWolves win only their 3rd point of the season 👍

Last night are the type of games they'd have been targeting points in.

lurganblue

Quote from: Blowitupref on December 30, 2025, 09:55:17 PMThe Aston Villa unbeaten run has come to a end with a bang against Arsenal tonight.

A deserved win for Arsenal. That's the Villa title charge over before the end of 2025. The media can now move onto a different narrative.

tiempo

Could the league be any worse?

For example, loads of examples

Pure dort

Captain Obvious

Quote from: tiempo on December 31, 2025, 10:05:36 AMCould the league be any worse?
 

If Arsenal allow soulless City win another title.

Any team appointing Roy Keane as manager is another way to make it worse.

seafoid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/01/enzo-maresca-expected-to-chelsea-latest-updates/


Enzo Maresca is expected to leave Chelsea following a mid-season slump in results.

Chelsea are yet to confirm or comment on the possible departure of Maresca after 18 months as head coach, but sources believe the Italian will leave his post today, three days before the club face Manchester City.

quit yo jibbajabba

Confirmed gone
Big enough surprise
Id say the Chelsea lot hard enough to work to

Read somewhere he's lined up to replace pep in summer, I'd be surprised at that tbh

Blowitupref

Todd Boehly-led consortium onto their 6th manager in a short space of time.


Thomas Tuchel (January 2021 - September 2022)

Graham Potter (September 2022 – April 2023)


Frank Lampard (interim manager, April 2023 – June 2023)

Mauricio Pochettino (July 2023 – May 2024)

Enzo Maresca (June 2024 – January 2026)

Maresca was manager of month in November and since then one win in 7 league games.  Finished 4th with 69 points last season they are 8 points worse off after 19 games this season compared to last.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

tiempo

Bet Barcelona in the CL, went very well against Arsenal, jez these clowns have no patience especially when they can't reasonably be expected to be higher than 4th

Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.