Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[Genocide Organ]

"A senior U.S. official said that Ukraine significantly changed one of the 28 points in the version that appeared online. In an apparent move to expose alleged corruption, the draft had called for an audit of all international aid Ukraine had received. The language was changed to say all parties will receive "full amnesty for their actions during the war."

Umerov in his statement Friday denied that Ukraine had altered the provision.



https://www.wsj.com/world/u-s-peace-plan-for-ukraine-faces-resistance-from-europe-and-kyiv-0f2bb501

Of all the bullshit, manoeuvrings and subterfuge concerning the US plan (lol) this past week, it's no surprise you honed in on this little piece of gossip from an unnamed US Official.

The Irish pro-Russki brigade have been having a complete meltdown on X this past week, completely furious at Ukraine for not accepting the planted Vitkoff-Dmitriev surrender plan. They mask their ideological fury as concern for the Ukrainian dead, the absolute ghouls that they are.

Why are you so keen to keep it all going?

[Banks of the Bann]

"A senior U.S. official said that Ukraine significantly changed one of the 28 points in the version that appeared online. In an apparent move to expose alleged corruption, the draft had called for an audit of all international aid Ukraine had received. The language was changed to say all parties will receive "full amnesty for their actions during the war."

Umerov in his statement Friday denied that Ukraine had altered the provision.



https://www.wsj.com/world/u-s-peace-plan-for-ukraine-faces-resistance-from-europe-and-kyiv-0f2bb501

Of all the bullshit, manoeuvrings and subterfuge concerning the US plan (lol) this past week, it's no surprise you honed in on this little piece of gossip from an unnamed US Official.

The Irish pro-Russki brigade have been having a complete meltdown on X this past week, completely furious at Ukraine for not accepting the planted Vitkoff-Dmitriev surrender plan. They mask their ideological fury as concern for the Ukrainian dead, the absolute ghouls that they are.

Why are you so keen to keep it all going?

Provide one shred of evidence or something that I've said that shows I am 'keen to keep it going'.

Amazing how knuckledraggers like Burdjizzo and the tankie left both sing from the same pro-Russki song book. They've never forgiven Ukraine for not surrendering to Russia. Fighting back is 'keeping it going'. To call it twisted wouldn't even come close.

[Dag Dog]

The upsurge in Kremlin bots has been mental since the 'peace' plan was leaked.
Even our homegrown Russian stooges (Hickey, MacKenna etc) have gone into overdrive. It's hard to figure out of they're celebrating Russia cementing territorial gains, or livid that they're not getting all of Ukraine.

[Banks of the Bann]

The upsurge in Kremlin bots has been mental since the 'peace' plan was leaked.
Even our homegrown Russian stooges (Hickey, MacKenna etc) have gone into overdrive. It's hard to figure out of they're celebrating Russia cementing territorial gains, or livid that they're not getting all of Ukraine.

It also hasn't occurred to these clowns that giving Russia what it wants now is the very definition of 'keeping it all going'.

For the slow of learning, Russia has never abided by any agreement it has made with Ukraine and its proposals in the peace plan are a clear signal of future intent, i.e. No NATO, no long range weapons, cap on Armed forces, meaningless security guarantees, surrender of fortress cities leaving the road to Kyiv open..

Penny dropping yet?

[seafoid]

https://www.ft.com/content/8467569a-9d0d-4f71-9d11-230ddc5324b2

Donald Trump defended Steve Witkoff's role in efforts to end the war in Ukraine and dispatched him to Moscow for more talks next week, as he brushed off leaked transcripts that appeared to show his envoy advising a Kremlin official on how to court the White House. Speaking on board Air Force One late on Tuesday, Trump described as "standard negotiations" a leaked October call between Witkoff and Putin's top foreign policy aide Yuri Ushakov, in which the American referred to a need for Ukraine to give up Donetsk province in any peace deal, crossing a long-standing red line for Kyiv. "He's got to sell this to Ukraine. He's got to sell Ukraine to Russia. That's what a dealmaker does," Trump said of Witkoff, whom he said was set to go next week to Moscow for a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, possibly along with Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner.


https://www.ft.com/content/8467569a-9d0d-4f71-9d11-230ddc5324b2

Bloomberg reported on Tuesday that Witkoff had advised Ushakov in an October phone call on how to pitch a peace deal to Trump, suggesting that they emulate the approach used to secure a ceasefire in Gaza. "I would make the call and just reiterate that you congratulate the president on this achievement, that you supported it, you supported it, that you respect that he is a man of peace and you're just, you're really glad to have seen it happen. So I would say that," Witkoff told Ushakov, according to the transcript. Ushakov responded: "OK my friend . . . I agree with you that he will congratulate, he will say that Mr Trump is a real peace man and so and so," according to the transcript

[Dag Dog]

"He's got to sell Ukraine to Russia. That's what a dealmaker does," Trump said of Witkoff

 

[seafoid]

https://www.ft.com/content/3742ca9e-a111-49e2-8e4f-756fe57049e9

Lavrov said he "welcomed" a 28-point US peace proposal drawn up with Russian input that called for Kyiv to give up territory and face other restrictions, which was presented to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Thursday. However, a modified 19-point version drawn up with Ukrainian and European negotiators in Geneva earlier this week appears far less favourable to Russia. Rustem Umerov, a senior Ukrainian official, said his team had reached "a common understanding on the core terms of the agreement" with their US counterparts. Samuel Charap, a senior political scientist at the Rand Corporation, said there was "no way" Moscow would sign off on the plan amended by Kyiv and the Europeans. Instead, Russia was likely to spin out the negotiations in multiple formats and continue its slow grind on the battlefield, he said. "The tactic that Putin has consistently taken with Trump is to never close the door," said Charap. "They [Russia] are going to say: 'Yes, but . . .' or 'This is a good basis for discussion, but we'd like to talk about the details"

[Banks of the Bann]

Pray Russia never comes to 'liberate' you:

https://x.com/clement_molin/status/1994116677307433394?s=20

Perhaps a few of the board tankies or RW knuckle-draggers would like a bit of this in their hometowns?

Fed up with decadent western capitalism and western 'fake' democracy? Fancy a bit of Ruskii Mir for yourself and your loved ones?

[seafoid]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/11/28/trump-to-recognise-occupied-ukraine-part-of-russia/

The United States is poised to recognise Russia's control over Crimea and other occupied Ukrainian territories to secure a deal to end the war.
The Telegraph understands that Donald Trump has sent his peace envoy Steve Witkoff and son-in-law Jared Kushner to make the direct offer to Vladimir Putin in Moscow.

The plan to recognise territory, which breaks US diplomatic convention, is likely to go ahead despite concerns among Ukraine's European allies.
One well-placed source said: "It's increasingly clear the Americans don't care about the European position. They say the Europeans can do whatever they want."

[Rossfan]

Germany to seize back Silesia etc from Poland?

[Look-Up!]

Germany to seize back Silesia etc from Poland?

Ich bin ein Danziger.

[Dag Dog]

Germany to seize back Silesia etc from Poland?

Trump and his fellow robber barons would bless it if there was money to be made.

[Banks of the Bann]

The only way peace can be brought to Ukraine is for Europe and the US (won't happen) to bring such pain to Russia that it cannot bear it, economically and militarily. Especially economically. This is the ONLY way. Russia will not change voluntarily. The bully must be cowed.

Trump is prolonging the war, European dithering is prolonging the war.

[seafoid]

The only way peace can be brought to Ukraine is for Europe and the US (won't happen) to bring such pain to Russia that it cannot bear it, economically and militarily. Especially economically. This is the ONLY way. Russia will not change voluntarily. The bully must be cowed.

Trump is prolonging the war, European dithering is prolonging the war.

Agree. Russia's economy is weakening. Ukraine won't cede land. Coordinated sanctions are the way forward.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/11/26/snatching-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory-against-russia/
Russia's energy exports have collapsed. The Kremlin's fiscal regime has suffered its first life-threatening crisis since the invasion of Ukraine.

Putin can no longer find buyers for Russian oil on the world market. Some 48 million barrels are floating on stranded tankers from the Mediterranean to the South China Sea, shunned by Indian refiners and even China's state-owned energy companies, both afraid of secondary US sanctions.

Only cloak-and-dagger customers outside the dollar-based financial system dare to touch oil from Rosneft and Lukoil. They want a bargain.

"We talk to both buyers and producers, and as of Friday, the price of Urals crude at the Port of Primorsk was $40.01 (£30.47) a barrel," said David Fyfe, the chief economist of energy agency Argus.

[Banks of the Bann]

https://x.com/darthputinkgb/status/1995127333632483403?s=46

OTD in 2013 @CIA began its "coup" by sending group of unarmed students to repeatedly headbutt the batons & boots of peaceful riot policemen so as to start Euromaidan so Nyland could give them cookies.