The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:08:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:05:42 AMThere aren't a lot of "off the boat" Irish where I live-actually I believe there to be only 4 in my entire town

3 are Republicans and 1 is a Democrat

And one (not me) is a hard core MAGA supporter and it's a woman

In terms of people I know through work-I only know 2 off the boat-and they're both Republicans

When it comes to Irish Americans, through work I know hundreds and I would say they're split 60/40 Republican/Democrat
Just telling you my experience in the Bronx.
Two things, among many, said to me by non Irish in the Bronx... (and I saw for myself.)
The Irish here are equal opportunist they discriminate against everyone.
The first word Irish people learn when they get off the plane is "n****r".
True. From the Trump playbook before was any word of Trump. Of course they vote for him.


Absolutely Irish people and Irish Americans can be racist, but you're mistaken in saying they are voting Republican because they're racist

For decades the exact same people voted for Democrats and many others (racist Irish Americans) still do


Truthsayer

Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:11:18 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:08:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:05:42 AMThere aren't a lot of "off the boat" Irish where I live-actually I believe there to be only 4 in my entire town

3 are Republicans and 1 is a Democrat

And one (not me) is a hard core MAGA supporter and it's a woman

In terms of people I know through work-I only know 2 off the boat-and they're both Republicans

When it comes to Irish Americans, through work I know hundreds and I would say they're split 60/40 Republican/Democrat
Just telling you my experience in the Bronx.
Two things, among many, said to me by non Irish in the Bronx... (and I saw for myself.)
The Irish here are equal opportunist they discriminate against everyone.
The first word Irish people learn when they get off the plane is "n****r".
True. From the Trump playbook before was any word of Trump. Of course they vote for him.


Absolutely Irish people and Irish Americans can be racist, but you're mistaken in saying they are voting Republican because they're racist

For decades the exact same people voted for Democrats and many others (racist Irish Americans) still do


They're voting for Trump the very bastion of racism.. misogyny, homophobia and every other far right (fascist) prejudice.

whitey

I was down in Ballina shortly after Biden's visit and was chatting with a lady in a shop

She was somewhat surprised that I wasn't a big Biden supporter

Another customer chimed in who had family in NYC-all her cousins were NYPD and she told the shopkeeper that all of her cousins despised Joe and were calling her going mad at everyone fawning over Joe when he was in town

whitey

Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:15:03 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:11:18 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:08:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:05:42 AMThere aren't a lot of "off the boat" Irish where I live-actually I believe there to be only 4 in my entire town

3 are Republicans and 1 is a Democrat

And one (not me) is a hard core MAGA supporter and it's a woman

In terms of people I know through work-I only know 2 off the boat-and they're both Republicans

When it comes to Irish Americans, through work I know hundreds and I would say they're split 60/40 Republican/Democrat
Just telling you my experience in the Bronx.
Two things, among many, said to me by non Irish in the Bronx... (and I saw for myself.)
The Irish here are equal opportunist they discriminate against everyone.
The first word Irish people learn when they get off the plane is "n****r".
True. From the Trump playbook before was any word of Trump. Of course they vote for him.


Absolutely Irish people and Irish Americans can be racist, but you're mistaken in saying they are voting Republican because they're racist

For decades the exact same people voted for Democrats and many others (racist Irish Americans) still do


They're voting for Trump the very bastion of racism.. misogyny, homophobia and every other far right (fascist) prejudice.
So what about the Portuguese Immigrant community voting for Trump (many of whom are Black)

Are they also racist

Truthsayer

#27439
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:19:52 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:15:03 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:11:18 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:08:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:05:42 AMThere aren't a lot of "off the boat" Irish where I live-actually I believe there to be only 4 in my entire town

3 are Republicans and 1 is a Democrat

And one (not me) is a hard core MAGA supporter and it's a woman

In terms of people I know through work-I only know 2 off the boat-and they're both Republicans

When it comes to Irish Americans, through work I know hundreds and I would say they're split 60/40 Republican/Democrat
Just telling you my experience in the Bronx.
Two things, among many, said to me by non Irish in the Bronx... (and I saw for myself.)
The Irish here are equal opportunist they discriminate against everyone.
The first word Irish people learn when they get off the plane is "n****r".
True. From the Trump playbook before was any word of Trump. Of course they vote for him.


Absolutely Irish people and Irish Americans can be racist, but you're mistaken in saying they are voting Republican because they're racist

For decades the exact same people voted for Democrats and many others (racist Irish Americans) still do


They're voting for Trump the very bastion of racism.. misogyny, homophobia and every other far right (fascist) prejudice.
So what about the Portuguese Immigrant community voting for Trump (many of whom are Black)

Are they also racist
And you accuse people here of changing the subject!
I'm telling you why Trump appeals to so many Irish migrants and the wannabes.. and you certainly fit that genre.

whitey

Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:24:21 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:19:52 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:15:03 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:11:18 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:08:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:05:42 AMThere aren't a lot of "off the boat" Irish where I live-actually I believe there to be only 4 in my entire town

3 are Republicans and 1 is a Democrat

And one (not me) is a hard core MAGA supporter and it's a woman

In terms of people I know through work-I only know 2 off the boat-and they're both Republicans

When it comes to Irish Americans, through work I know hundreds and I would say they're split 60/40 Republican/Democrat
Just telling you my experience in the Bronx.
Two things, among many, said to me by non Irish in the Bronx... (and I saw for myself.)
The Irish here are equal opportunist they discriminate against everyone.
The first word Irish people learn when they get off the plane is "n****r".
True. From the Trump playbook before was any word of Trump. Of course they vote for him.


Absolutely Irish people and Irish Americans can be racist, but you're mistaken in saying they are voting Republican because they're racist

For decades the exact same people voted for Democrats and many others (racist Irish Americans) still do


They're voting for Trump the very bastion of racism.. misogyny, homophobia and every other far right (fascist) prejudice.
So what about the Portuguese Immigrant community voting for Trump (many of whom are Black)

Are they also racist
And you accuse people here of changing the subject!
I'm telling you why Trump appeals to so many Irish migrants and the wannabes.. and you certainly fit that genre.

Not changing the subject at all

It is your opinion that Irish and Irish Americans are driven by racism in their decision to vote for Trump but
Portuguese and Portuguese Americans also vote for Trump (and many of them would be regarded as black)

Maybe your theories on voting patterns among immigrant groups aren't  as iron clad as you give yourself credit for

Armagh18

Given that Trump has a militia out gathering up and trying to deport any Hispanic or brown looking people I'd say those Portuguese people were duped by his bullshit and encouraged by the uselessness of the Democrats to vote Trump.

I'm sure they're regretting it now

Truthsayer

#27442
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:38:27 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:24:21 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:19:52 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:15:03 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:11:18 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 19, 2025, 12:08:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 19, 2025, 12:05:42 AMThere aren't a lot of "off the boat" Irish where I live-actually I believe there to be only 4 in my entire town

3 are Republicans and 1 is a Democrat

And one (not me) is a hard core MAGA supporter and it's a woman

In terms of people I know through work-I only know 2 off the boat-and they're both Republicans

When it comes to Irish Americans, through work I know hundreds and I would say they're split 60/40 Republican/Democrat
Just telling you my experience in the Bronx.
Two things, among many, said to me by non Irish in the Bronx... (and I saw for myself.)
The Irish here are equal opportunist they discriminate against everyone.
The first word Irish people learn when they get off the plane is "n****r".
True. From the Trump playbook before was any word of Trump. Of course they vote for him.


Absolutely Irish people and Irish Americans can be racist, but you're mistaken in saying they are voting Republican because they're racist

For decades the exact same people voted for Democrats and many others (racist Irish Americans) still do


They're voting for Trump the very bastion of racism.. misogyny, homophobia and every other far right (fascist) prejudice.
So what about the Portuguese Immigrant community voting for Trump (many of whom are Black)

Are they also racist
And you accuse people here of changing the subject!
I'm telling you why Trump appeals to so many Irish migrants and the wannabes.. and you certainly fit that genre.

Not changing the subject at all

It is your opinion that Irish and Irish Americans are driven by racism in their decision to vote for Trump but
Portuguese and Portuguese Americans also vote for Trump (and many of them would be regarded as black)

Maybe your theories on voting patterns among immigrant groups aren't  as iron clad as you give yourself credit for
Or maybe I've hit on something with the Irish migrant and the Irish-American wannabes votes...

Rossfan

"Many of them would be regarded as black"

What a mind boggling comment!!
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Armagh18

Whitey what do you make of your mate Trump and his Epstein involvement?

whitey

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 19, 2025, 11:28:27 AMWhitey what do you make of your mate Trump and his Epstein involvement?

Michael Smerconish probably has the best political radio show going

He has all types of super qualified experts on any subject imaginable

I have probably listened to 5 hours of Epstein related commentary from him this week

Anyone I heard has said if there was anything significant it would already have come out

One interesting theory is that Trump actually was the one who ratted Epstein out. Supposedly there was some real estate deal between the two that went south and there was mutual animosity

whitey

Quote from: Rossfan on November 19, 2025, 11:21:00 AM"Many of them would be regarded as black"

What a mind boggling comment!!

Actually it's not

Maybe you should educate yourself about Cape Verde

DaleCooper

They definitely did seem to throw the kitchen sink at Trump but doesn't mean other stuff being held back. Its fascinating how long this has gone on, I knew about Epstein in 2012.

Israels grip on American society is loosening significantly as the despicable older generation start to die off. The cost imposed on the American people is simply astonishing.

seafoid

Quote from: DaleCooper on November 19, 2025, 12:42:45 PMThey definitely did seem to throw the kitchen sink at Trump but doesn't mean other stuff being held back. Its fascinating how long this has gone on, I knew about Epstein in 2012.

Israels grip on American society is loosening significantly as the despicable older generation start to die off. The cost imposed on the American people is simply astonishing.
Israel shot itself in the foot over Gaza. Revenge went down very badly with Democrat voters. Support for Israel with GOP voters also fell. The lobby is weaker.

J70

#27449
For a moment I thought maybe Trump would finally get hoisted on his own petard, given that he was happy to ride the Epstein list all the way to political success, with his own son and current VP and FBI director fueling the hype for years, all while Trump himself looked to have some level of guilt in the whole sordid affair.

I've no idea how MAGA have squared that circle. That Trump would bring down these supposed Democratic paedo rings, especially Epstein, while at the same time he refuses to condemn Maxwell for her horrifying, evil actions. Then, he gets in again, and his minions make a big show out the gate with binders supposedly full of names and details handed over to MAGA personalities, before a few months later, Bondi, Patel and Bongino announce that there is suddenly nothing to reveal (one wonders why?!)! Then we get into months of sweetheart treatment for Maxwell, slow revelations of Trump's pally relationship with Epstein, and then him trying to intimidate his party into suppressing the information, including having the pathetic (but very "Christian") House Speaker basically shut down the House of Representatives for weeks and refuse to seat a new Dem representative who will provide the vital 218th signature to bring the release of the files to a vote. Once she's seated, then he desperately and disgustingly tries to bully the four hardline MAGA representatives who've committed to the vote into reversing their decision, only to lose that fight. In the end he gives in (presumably with assurances from Bondi and Patel on what will see the light of day), but mainly because he has no choice. Yet, after all that, the MAGA movement will stay with him.

Which means Trump will get off scott-free like he always does. If there IS anything incriminating, he'll have it suppressed or locked up for some bullshit reason like he did with his tax returns, which for years he "couldn't" release because he was supposedly under audit. Any stuff that is merely embarrassing or that would be a career-ender for any normal politician or public figure, he'll just brazen it out as always and move the next scandal that will roll along in a couple of days. Would any other politician get away with a revelation that he spent hours in a room with one of Epstein's young victims? Can you imagine any other politician getting away with the shit he's pulled in just the past few days with that reporter ("quiet piggy"), his cruel and deranged comments towards Thomas Massie's personal life, his stupid attacks on MTG, one of the few who never wavered in her support of him following January 6th?

And even aside from the Epstein stuff, he's tanking the economy with his insane tariff policies. He's spouting nonsense about 50 year mortgages and direct payments for healthcare costs and the US being in a "golden age" of economic growth, all while his ICE/CBP thugs invade blue cities to harass and intimidate and abduct poor brown people.

I guess MAGA are delighted with that last policy, but what about everything else he's doing? Is it all really, at the end of the day, just about making the libs cry? Even if it comes at a cost to themselves? Even if he is only out for his own personal, corrupt, interest, as MTG has finally, and at long last, realized?